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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGood Job Mr. President! You got the ball rolling on this and if it works out then you get credit.
I am glad President Obama is my president and I trusted him through the whole thing. He and Kerry are not warmongers like some people here said. I understood their unease with not wanting to bomb Syria but calling them warmongers was just wrong.
Sometimes you have to threaten bad leaders to get them to do the right thing. I pray it works out.
Well Done and Thank You Mr. President!
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)An exceedingly relevant statement given the sudden turn around with our own leaders.
jobycom
(49,038 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)I think this stopped him dead in his tracks, and the plan was to bomb
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)He knew congress would not support him so he wanted a stalling tactic.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Unfortunately, they won't buy that
Expect to see Syria bombed
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)You maybe right on the bombing in the end.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)You do not threaten to bomb unless you are ready
to do it. You just don't.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)telling. The Syrian people probably don't see this as awards day. It is also a fact, Justin, that it is not legal for one country to threaten another in order to extract political compliance. Such threats are in themselves acts of war. That might be worth noting in the slide down the rabbit hole. When it is done to us, we call it terrorism. 'Sometimes you just have to' is what everyone says when breaking international law. We have the UN to enforce such things, it is not in the unilateral purview of any head of State to threaten another nation as a means of 'diplomacy'.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)As I said, the need to roll the credits on a dynamic story still in progress is frightening to me. Just so you know, your posts and others like it make me cringe. Plenty of time for laurels when the laurels are won. Three days ago people here were snarling for bombing because they cared so much about the children there. The children there are still in huge peril. Handled. Chilling.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Unlike the idiot before him. Says a lot about him imo.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)And Kerry too, he's been thrown to the wolves so many times. Congress needs to do their dam jobs! Then let the executive do their jobs once they know what policy Congress supports. The idea of letting the POTUS stick his neck out politically (and NOT Congress) pisses me off!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)like the last groups of Congress critters. They really do the institution an injustice with their indecisiveness and incompetence. Hiding behind the POTUS; that is so Bush/Cheney like. Obama was smart and made them perform, they have no choice in this matter since it is their job.
I like seeing the POTUS make Congress do something! It is refreshing.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)to not implement Obamacare then they will MAYBE talk about the deficit and MAYBE the sequester.
Hostage time again.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)UtahLib
(3,179 posts)considering what might be the less than trustworthy motivations of certain participants involved in the negotiations.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)politicasista
(14,128 posts)for cautious optimism.
markiv
(1,489 posts)I thank the one who deserves it, Putin
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)But I respect your opinion.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)He saw an opening and took it. If the deal with Syria works out as planned, Putin and Assad will get political cover from being the ones willing to compromise while they can paint the United States as obstinate and aggressive.
markiv
(1,489 posts)what would you call a football player who ignored a ball fumbled by the other team
a gentleman, or an incompetant?
Putin got the world (including us) out of a real mess, so what if he scores a point for himself in the process - cheapest point we'll ever give away, considering the alternatives
sorry if i value our blood and treasure more than the ego of 'our guy'
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)I'm very happy that a diplomatic path out of this nightmare labyrinth has been found (if we have the wisdom take it). I don't care one whit who gets credit if it ends the crisis.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)and I like that about you Justin.
I don't agree with you on this, but I respect your opinion.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Still might.
And I don't appreciate it.