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John Kerry, John Edwards, or Joe Lieberman? (Original Post) oberliner Sep 2013 OP
Obama Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #1
Holy Joe NoOneMan Sep 2013 #2
Joebituary in a landslide Fumesucker Sep 2013 #3
Jomentum! MelungeonWoman Sep 2013 #4
john kerry has always been most disliked of those 3 on DU , not just these days either JI7 Sep 2013 #5
John Kerry and John Edwards are just politics as usual careerist - Joe Lieberman is a foreign policy Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #6
The Guy that Sarah Palin edged out as McCain's VP choice. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #7
Wasn't that Mitt Romney? oberliner Sep 2013 #21
It has to be Lieberman DemocraticWing Sep 2013 #8
Even scarier is who it actually was oberliner Sep 2013 #22
Joe NOmentum nt Raine Sep 2013 #9
Lieberman, hands down Skittles Sep 2013 #10
He definitely looks to be the runaway winner oberliner Sep 2013 #11
that was the very first moment I realized Gore was going to lose Skittles Sep 2013 #12
And yet they didn't actually lose oberliner Sep 2013 #13
I stand corrected Skittles Sep 2013 #16
True, but in the end Joe helped the other team... JHB Sep 2013 #33
They are ALL horrible in their own ways pjt7 Sep 2013 #14
Joe Lieberman hands down! B Calm Sep 2013 #15
You know the John Edwards and Anthony Weiner situations have me wondering. Would Bill Clinton liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #17
Did Bill Clinton commit campaign finance fraud? oberliner Sep 2013 #18
"It used to be that democrats would separate a person's job and personal life." SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #29
yeah, it's too bad he was a phoney, though. dionysus Sep 2013 #36
Lieberman, hands down Scootaloo Sep 2013 #19
LIEberman in a landslide. LiberalAndProud Sep 2013 #20
As a John Edwards Democrat, liskddksil Sep 2013 #23
Same here. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #30
Lieberman, not even close. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #24
With respect to Edwards oberliner Sep 2013 #27
To me, it still pales in comparision to giving a major address at the GOP convention. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #31
Plus Edwards was found innocent liskddksil Sep 2013 #34
That means he might have joined Spiro Agnew in the "disgraced VP club", but... JHB Sep 2013 #37
Joe, without a doubt eissa Sep 2013 #25
For me, Lieberman (nt) bigwillq Sep 2013 #26
Lieberman MNBrewer Sep 2013 #28
Lieberman would be a mainstream poster here on DU. So I doubt he's the most hated. nt Romulox Sep 2013 #32
'mainstream poster's here on DU endorsed McCain for president like Lieberman did?... PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #39
Kerry, Lieberman and Edwards, in that order markiv Sep 2013 #35
for me it's Holy Joe. dionysus Sep 2013 #38
fuck Lieberman rurallib Sep 2013 #40

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
6. John Kerry and John Edwards are just politics as usual careerist - Joe Lieberman is a foreign policy
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 03:36 AM
Sep 2013

right-wing Neoconservative ideologue and he is self-righteously smug about it. That would make him considerably more dangerous and more obnoxious.


DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
8. It has to be Lieberman
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 03:42 AM
Sep 2013

Imagine a world where the first foreign policy voice in President Gore's ear after 9/11 was Joe Lieberman.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. Even scarier is who it actually was
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 11:46 AM
Sep 2013

Cheney and Rumsfeld were doing a lot more than just whispering.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. He definitely looks to be the runaway winner
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 03:56 AM
Sep 2013

Still hard to believe he and Gore were a ticket together.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
12. that was the very first moment I realized Gore was going to lose
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 03:59 AM
Sep 2013

that to me was the defining moment

JHB

(37,158 posts)
33. True, but in the end Joe helped the other team...
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:15 PM
Sep 2013
COUNTING THE VOTE: THE ABSENTEE BALLOTS; Military Ballots Merit a Review, Lieberman Says
By RICHARD PEREZ-PENA
Published: November 20, 2000


Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the Democratic candidate for vice president, said today that Florida election officials should reconsider their rejection of hundreds of military ballots from overseas, even if they might not comply with the law.

Mr. Lieberman's comments, a retreat from the position the Democrats had taken since Friday, came after they were stung by Republican charges that they had made a concerted effort to disenfranchise members of the military. While Republicans painted their opponents as being willing to use any means to manipulate vote totals in the extraordinary, tense and prolonged Florida count, Democrats complained that they were losing a nasty public relations battle for simply insisting on following the law as it has been applied in the past.

''My own point of view, if I was there, I would give the benefit of the doubt to ballots coming in from military personnel, generally,'' Mr. Lieberman said on NBC's ''Meet the Press.'' Of the local canvassing boards, he said, ''If they have the capacity, I'd urge them to go back and take another look, because again, Al Gore and I don't want to ever be part of anything that would put an extra burden on the military personnel abroad.''
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/20/us/counting-vote-absentee-ballots-military-ballots-merit-review-lieberman-says.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

The Republicans didn't give any such benefit of the doubt to challenging the same sorts of ballots in Democratic-favoring areas.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
17. You know the John Edwards and Anthony Weiner situations have me wondering. Would Bill Clinton
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 04:38 AM
Sep 2013

still get a free pass from democrats if he had been president today and did what he did? Would he get support from democrats simply to keep republicans from taking power? Would people have demanded he leave office? Or would people simply not care about his personal life if he were a good president? It used to be that democrats would seperate a person's job and personal life. As long as you were a good president people left a person's personal life to their family to deal with. Now we have become morality police just like the republicans. On a personal level what Bill Clinton, John Edwards, and Anthony Weiner did were reprehensible. But does that mean they can't be good public servents?

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
29. "It used to be that democrats would separate a person's job and personal life."
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:06 PM
Sep 2013

John Edwards crisscrossing the country speaking out against the one percent to the 99% wasn't something TPTB were about to tolerate from a presidential candidate.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
19. Lieberman, hands down
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 06:18 AM
Sep 2013

Kerry's made a damn fool of himself and Edwards has done even worse than that, but both of 'em still harbor real progressive ideas and approaches. Scumbag Joe's climbed so far up John McCain's ass that he can taste the senator's lunch.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
24. Lieberman, not even close.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 11:51 AM
Sep 2013

True, Edwards made an ass out of himself in his personal family life, but at least he didn't sell out the party.

Kerry, albeit with his flaws, is still respectable in my opinion.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. With respect to Edwards
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:02 PM
Sep 2013

It wasn't just his personal life - what about the use of campaign funds to cover up his indiscretions?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
31. To me, it still pales in comparision to giving a major address at the GOP convention.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:07 PM
Sep 2013

What Edwards did, although inexcusable, happens all the time on a bi-partisan basis. Campaign funds in general are typically giant slush funds for any number of purposes, proper or not.

But you don't usually come across a candidate eight years removed from the VP nomination of one party giving an address for the nominee of the other party.

On a strictly emotional level, that angers me way more than what Edwards did.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
37. That means he might have joined Spiro Agnew in the "disgraced VP club", but...
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:29 PM
Sep 2013

...life would go on.

Lieberman prominently supported the people who used 9/11 as a springboard to launch their pet project to impose their own blinkered vision of how the Middle East "should" be. (Remember the bit trumpeting their bold vision and action-taking while sneering at the plodding "reality based community"?)

Not much of a contest, and Kerry isn't even in the same city, much less same ballpark.

 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
35. Kerry, Lieberman and Edwards, in that order
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:27 PM
Sep 2013

i never liked Edwards, a 2 faced asshat, whose words were contradicted completely by his short voting record - but he's made himelf irrelevant so he's last

Lieberman, who appeared on Pierce Morgan with WOLFOWITZ pushing for war just a few days ago

and Kerry as first, as the face of this disaster

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