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Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:35 PM Sep 2013

Zimmerman's Local Police Chief Agrees He's Another 'Sandy Hook' Waiting to Happen.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/12/2611711/george-zimmermans-local-police-chief-fears-sandy-hook-waiting-happen/

Police Chief Steve Bracknell, who is responsible for the Florida town where George Zimmerman resides, agreed in a series of emails that Zimmerman is a “ticking time bomb” and another “Sandy Hook” waiting to happen.

Bracknell expressed his views in response to two emails from Santiago Rodriguez, who reached Bracknell through a contact form on the police department’s website. Bracknell confirmed the emails’ authenticity to ThinkProgress and subsequently tried to distance himself from the remarks.
Rodriguez’s first email was an extended, and sometimes angry, critique of how the Lake Mary Police Department handled their response to the recent altercation between George Zimmerman, his wife and his father in law.

Rodriguez told Bracknell that he had a responsibility to charge Zimmerman because he was another “Sandy Hook… waiting to happen.” Bracknell responded with a detailed defense of the police department’s conduct, but explicitly endorsed Rodriguez’s comments on Sandy Hook.



[Ellipses are from the original email.]



But I guess there's nothing we can do to prevent it, is there?
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Zimmerman's Local Police Chief Agrees He's Another 'Sandy Hook' Waiting to Happen. (Original Post) Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 OP
Then he'd better start doing something about it. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #1
they did say they were trying to get the video his wife recorded because- as always with GZ bettyellen Sep 2013 #2
Don't worry about it. Daniel537 Sep 2013 #3
Well yeah, there's that. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #5
don't they have cause to take away his ccw? grasswire Sep 2013 #4
start locking people up for suspicion. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #6
He did kill a teenager and assaulted his wife and father in law. "suspicion"? Pshaw uppityperson Sep 2013 #7
Out of your league Galaxy HangOnKids Sep 2013 #8
preferably their defenders would be there too Skittles Sep 2013 #9
What if GZ came unhinged next to your family? Blue Owl Sep 2013 #10
Your guess 'nothing we can do to prevent it' is 100% correct. freshwest Sep 2013 #11
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Then he'd better start doing something about it.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:37 PM
Sep 2013

Because if his prediction comes true he'll be culpable for doing too little.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
2. they did say they were trying to get the video his wife recorded because- as always with GZ
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:38 PM
Sep 2013

it is a he said / she said situation- his favorite kind.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
5. Well yeah, there's that.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:40 PM
Sep 2013

I'm sure Zim's next victim(s) can console themselves with thoughts of his punishment in the after life, courtesy of all those jurors.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
4. don't they have cause to take away his ccw?
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:40 PM
Sep 2013

The reason Zim kept telling Shellie to "step closer" is so that she would appear to be the aggressor and he could claim self defense.

The fact that they had each gotten protective orders against the other means that if Shellie appeared the aggressor he could say she violated that order.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
8. Out of your league Galaxy
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 01:12 PM
Sep 2013

If you could bring that batting average above the Mendoza line maybe you could be taken seriously.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. Your guess 'nothing we can do to prevent it' is 100% correct.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 03:45 PM
Sep 2013

Police are only allowed to do something after a crime has occurred or while in progress and they rely on the public calling them.

If they try to prevent a crime by surveillance or monitoring, they are 'fascists who are trying to control our every move in a police state!'

Z was found not guilty by legal means no matter how shady, and he is a ticking time bomb. So is the RWNJ next door armed to the teeth and filling his head full of Alex Jones, Glenn Beck and extreme ideology or theology that says he has not only the right, but duty to kill the evil ones - liberals, gays, blacks, Muslims, etc.

And every time you see a 'liberal hunting permit' or a '2nd Amendment solution' bumper sticker, you are seeing a person who has just told you they are willing to kill someone whose life you hold as valuable for their sick pride and ideology. They may not be as loose a cannon as Georgie, but they feel entitled just the way he does to act out with violence. We don't say anything to them. We can't say anything much in a society that endorses CCW and open carry. The intimidation is right there, in your face. Our freedom to speak and live in peace is in danger, and then we have the giggling killers running loose as well.

It is not illegal for RWNJs to entertain such things and to make it so would be going after people for 'thought crimes.' We can't stop people like this and still have a rule of law to arbitrate disputes.

Attorneys won a dispute in WA allowing the state to keep convicted, high level sex offenders with a likelihood to re-offend for the protection of the public. It was in the guise of treatment, and likely some professionals felt they could change them to make their entry back into society safe for all.

Neither their victims, nor the public at large, wanted them on the streets, just waiting for the alarm clock to go off.

But since they couldn't be 'cured' of their bent for raping children and adults, they were being sentenced to indefinite detention after they'd served the maximum, which could possibly be for life.

The US Constitution was on the side of the sex offenders. Essentially, it was double jeopardy, or something. The law that convicted them did not carry a life sentence, as rape is not a capital crime, but it once was. So they were being held beyond the law 'with treatment' to keep the public safe.

The state lost and took hell from angry citizens for letting them go, who also resented the high cost of paying to have them supervised by state employees in a humane way. Strip the rhetoric away, and many of the public just wanted them dead. Or at least that's how RW radio played to demagogue the state and it's liberal ideas. But the state law didn't allow the death penalty.

So what's it gonna be?

As much as I hate Z, and his enablers who made a mockery of the justice system which always had problems worldwide, I remember a lawyer in the state case warning that unConstitutional treatment of unpopular people being meted out, does not stop with them.

If we permit things that are not Constitutional, it will set the precdent to do it to anyone. We can't get a law to set up as task force for surviellance of George the Giggling Killer based on our fear, loathing and disgust.

He's not alone in his depravity and likelihood to re-offend. And he wasn't found guilty of anything, huh - that's the problem, right there.

The police cannot make it right, they cannot spy on Georgie because the public is afraid. But the letter sent and responded to with those words, I accept with gratitude. These words need to be said on all of these guys.

I'd hate to be living next to him. I wish he could have been charged and convicted of molesting that six year girl for years and get him on a sex offender registry. That is legal, and let people know where he is.

I have no solution, just nausea at the people who have gamed the system and 'always get away' just as Giggling George said.

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