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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow do you think things would go under President Hillary Clinton?
Would Republicans be a bit more cooperative?
Would the economy improve for the middle class and the poor?
Would we stay out of war?
Please enlighten me with serious thoughts.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)Nuff said.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Not so well for workers and middle-class.
I don't think the country can survive yet another corporatist Dem....and many Liberals will no longer vote for one.
polichick
(37,152 posts)and maybe another war in the Middle East.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)Maybe not skyrocket, but something steady. And I think that because of her experience as Sec. of State, she would bring a lot of foreign policy skill to the table. Her time as Senator earlier enabled her to deal with domestic policy too.
I think she'd be great.
I hope she runs....I would knock on doors for her.
on point
(2,506 posts)But she too is no leader and waits until it is safe to proclaim support
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)1. Republicans have forgotten how to be cooperative. There are days when I feel that if Dems said, "we should insure no one", they'd insist on free health care for all.
2. I don't have a reason to believe that Hillary's economic policies would be substantially different and things just keep getting worse for the 99%. The "Wall Street economy" might soar, but even more of us will be pushed into poverty.
3. War is profitable for the MIC. There will be people straining every nerve to gin up another one.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)old wine in old bottles.
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)We really need a voter revolt.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)William769
(55,145 posts)EDIT to clarify: Hillary Clinton will be a FANTASTIC President.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)We will see when the outsourcing kicks into gear and she finally gets that war with Iran she has supported all these years.
rug
(82,333 posts)That would be a good thing.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)In any case, I think it would be safe to assume that neo-liberal economic policies would continue to prevail, as well as neocon-inspired foreign policy.
We would be thrown just enough bones on the socially liberal side to tamp down any seriously organized opposition from the mostly non-existent left.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)because we have a president now and we need to think about how things are working now, and what we can do to make things better now.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)No more Turd Way corporate tools.
eridani
(51,907 posts)--only in destroying her. Same bullshit neoliberal "free" trade, same commitment to the US military income, same putting the 1% first. Both Obama and Clinton are good on social issues, but being a Democrat requires (or ought to require) fighting for all of the 99%.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)UTUSN
(70,683 posts)I've paid all the dues possible with the CLINTONs.
NOBODY, absolutely NObody can fault me for anti-Dem. Moving from Bill back in '92 to Hillary in '08, I was BIG for her. Then at the end of the primaries realized she LOST for REASONS: Old thinking, OLD model, old ISIDE THE BOX thinking.
Besides all that, all of us Dems WASTED OUR ENERGIES saving/defending the CLINTONs instead of all of us (including the CLINTONs) working on our Dem agenda.
Hillary is a TARGET for wingnut attacks. Besides that I'm OLD and my time is over and SO is anybodys/hers.
If she, or any Dem, is the nominee, I'm there. Otherwise, let somebody run who can WIN.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)improve and ultimately soar, President Obama would have cleared away all the worst traps for the economy. Bill Clinton didn't show a taste for war, I expect that President Hillary would avoid war, plus with her having been SOS, she would understand how quiet diplomacy resolves potentially explosive situations. Plus, with President Hillary, the country will get two Presidential minds for the price of one.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)There were really no differences between Candidate Clinton and Candidate Obama.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)madville
(7,408 posts)She doesn't seem like one to hesitate.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)No matter which Democrat we get in the WH.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)... with a white-hot passion. That should be a point in Hillary's favor, actually.
Republicans are not going to change their ways -- they have to be voted out, and that means Democrats from the Blue Dogs to the Kucinich Wing are just going to have to stop sabotaging each other and start working together to regain a Democratic majority.
That means GOTV in every election, including midterms. Get the best candidate you are able to and vote for the (D). Refrain from primarying shaky incumbents just because they're Blue Dogs. Without them, we will never have our majority.
That means giving up the stupid idea of "showing the president you disagree with him" by staying home. The US DOES NOT have a Parliamentary system -- the President is NOT equivalent to a Prime Minister. If you stay home in the midterms all it means is the President gets a Congress that refuses to work with him. Big help that is.
War? sorry -- shit happens. Vote for someone smart whose character you like, and let them do their job. Anyone running for POTUS who promises they can 100% keep us out of war is lying through their teeth or is a delusional fool. "No dumb wars" was good enough for me, and gods willing we can make it through the rest of this term....
Any woman, by the way, is going to be under considerable external pressure to prove she's man enough to be Commander in Chief.
These are my serious thoughts, as serious as a can be, even if a bit irascible.
Freddie
(9,259 posts)100% correct.
Staying home on Election Day will NOT push the Democratic Party to the left, it will only help the RWNJ party stay in power and continue destroying our country. Amen.
Fabulous article in Daily Beast today (I can't figure out how to link on my phone), "The Rise of the New New Left." How for the past 30+ years we've had the Reagan (government is evil) and Clinton (Wall Street friendly) political philosophies, and Obama is a Clintonite. But now we have the Millenial generation coming to power. Young people who can't get good jobs thanks to corporate greed, and who see the vital need for a strong safety net. The generation that brought us Occupy is way more left-leaning than their elders, and they're only beginning to show their political muscle. There's hope yet.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)She would've called out every vote.
Now? I don't know how she'd be now that she was a SoC who's job description is almost literally being diplomatic and seeing things from others' perspective.