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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:51 PM Sep 2013

How do you think things would go under President Hillary Clinton?


Would Republicans be a bit more cooperative?

Would the economy improve for the middle class and the poor?

Would we stay out of war?


Please enlighten me with serious thoughts.
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How do you think things would go under President Hillary Clinton? (Original Post) grasswire Sep 2013 OP
Not a fan of of Hillary...... rdharma Sep 2013 #1
Very well for corporations. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #2
Yep. Perhaps more trade agreements... polichick Sep 2013 #3
yawn DURHAM D Sep 2013 #4
exactly the same as under Obama n/t Enrique Sep 2013 #5
I think the economy would grow shenmue Sep 2013 #6
me, too Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #26
Just as badly or worse for the MIC and PTB. Maybe same on social issue on point Sep 2013 #7
No, no, and probably not. winter is coming Sep 2013 #8
no,no,maybe... madrchsod Sep 2013 #9
Same old, same old. Corporatism, corporatism, corporatism. Th1onein Sep 2013 #10
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #13
... William769 Sep 2013 #11
Sigh DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #24
I think there would be a lot more fight going on. rug Sep 2013 #12
I would very much prefer not to find out. scarletwoman Sep 2013 #14
I really don't want to think about this, Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #15
May we never have the misfortune to find out. 99Forever Sep 2013 #16
Pretty much the same, except that she's have a clue that Repukes are interested-- eridani Sep 2013 #17
Way better than with a republican gopiscrap Sep 2013 #18
You, of all people here, don't need "enlightenment." Speaking for myself UTUSN Sep 2013 #19
Republicans will continue to be jackasses. I would expect the economy to continue to bluestate10 Sep 2013 #20
Same as now Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2013 #21
Nope. I believe they are from the same club. nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #22
Some bombs on Syria would have fallen by now madville Sep 2013 #23
It would be hideous for the 99% n/t Oilwellian Sep 2013 #25
If we don't effect some change in the House, we're going to see more gridlock, sadly. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #27
No X 3 imo lunasun Sep 2013 #28
Same as Obama UNLESS we change Congress. The RW has always hated The Clintons .... Hekate Sep 2013 #29
^^^this^^^ Freddie Sep 2013 #30
She would've been partisan and the American people would've loved it. joshcryer Sep 2013 #31
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. Very well for corporations.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:00 PM
Sep 2013

Not so well for workers and middle-class.
I don't think the country can survive yet another corporatist Dem....and many Liberals will no longer vote for one.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
6. I think the economy would grow
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:10 PM
Sep 2013

Maybe not skyrocket, but something steady. And I think that because of her experience as Sec. of State, she would bring a lot of foreign policy skill to the table. Her time as Senator earlier enabled her to deal with domestic policy too.

I think she'd be great.

on point

(2,506 posts)
7. Just as badly or worse for the MIC and PTB. Maybe same on social issue
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:10 PM
Sep 2013

But she too is no leader and waits until it is safe to proclaim support

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
8. No, no, and probably not.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:14 PM
Sep 2013

1. Republicans have forgotten how to be cooperative. There are days when I feel that if Dems said, "we should insure no one", they'd insist on free health care for all.

2. I don't have a reason to believe that Hillary's economic policies would be substantially different and things just keep getting worse for the 99%. The "Wall Street economy" might soar, but even more of us will be pushed into poverty.

3. War is profitable for the MIC. There will be people straining every nerve to gin up another one.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
24. Sigh
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:15 PM
Sep 2013

We will see when the outsourcing kicks into gear and she finally gets that war with Iran she has supported all these years.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
14. I would very much prefer not to find out.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:05 PM
Sep 2013

In any case, I think it would be safe to assume that neo-liberal economic policies would continue to prevail, as well as neocon-inspired foreign policy.

We would be thrown just enough bones on the socially liberal side to tamp down any seriously organized opposition from the mostly non-existent left.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
15. I really don't want to think about this,
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:10 PM
Sep 2013

because we have a president now and we need to think about how things are working now, and what we can do to make things better now.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
17. Pretty much the same, except that she's have a clue that Repukes are interested--
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:11 PM
Sep 2013

--only in destroying her. Same bullshit neoliberal "free" trade, same commitment to the US military income, same putting the 1% first. Both Obama and Clinton are good on social issues, but being a Democrat requires (or ought to require) fighting for all of the 99%.

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
19. You, of all people here, don't need "enlightenment." Speaking for myself
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:28 PM
Sep 2013

I've paid all the dues possible with the CLINTONs.

NOBODY, absolutely NObody can fault me for anti-Dem. Moving from Bill back in '92 to Hillary in '08, I was BIG for her. Then at the end of the primaries realized she LOST for REASONS: Old thinking, OLD model, old ISIDE THE BOX thinking.

Besides all that, all of us Dems WASTED OUR ENERGIES saving/defending the CLINTONs instead of all of us (including the CLINTONs) working on our Dem agenda.

Hillary is a TARGET for wingnut attacks. Besides that I'm OLD and my time is over and SO is anybodys/hers.

If she, or any Dem, is the nominee, I'm there. Otherwise, let somebody run who can WIN.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
20. Republicans will continue to be jackasses. I would expect the economy to continue to
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:59 PM
Sep 2013

improve and ultimately soar, President Obama would have cleared away all the worst traps for the economy. Bill Clinton didn't show a taste for war, I expect that President Hillary would avoid war, plus with her having been SOS, she would understand how quiet diplomacy resolves potentially explosive situations. Plus, with President Hillary, the country will get two Presidential minds for the price of one.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
27. If we don't effect some change in the House, we're going to see more gridlock, sadly.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:02 AM
Sep 2013

No matter which Democrat we get in the WH.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
29. Same as Obama UNLESS we change Congress. The RW has always hated The Clintons ....
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:32 AM
Sep 2013

... with a white-hot passion. That should be a point in Hillary's favor, actually.

Republicans are not going to change their ways -- they have to be voted out, and that means Democrats from the Blue Dogs to the Kucinich Wing are just going to have to stop sabotaging each other and start working together to regain a Democratic majority.

That means GOTV in every election, including midterms. Get the best candidate you are able to and vote for the (D). Refrain from primarying shaky incumbents just because they're Blue Dogs. Without them, we will never have our majority.

That means giving up the stupid idea of "showing the president you disagree with him" by staying home. The US DOES NOT have a Parliamentary system -- the President is NOT equivalent to a Prime Minister. If you stay home in the midterms all it means is the President gets a Congress that refuses to work with him. Big help that is.

War? sorry -- shit happens. Vote for someone smart whose character you like, and let them do their job. Anyone running for POTUS who promises they can 100% keep us out of war is lying through their teeth or is a delusional fool. "No dumb wars" was good enough for me, and gods willing we can make it through the rest of this term....

Any woman, by the way, is going to be under considerable external pressure to prove she's man enough to be Commander in Chief.

These are my serious thoughts, as serious as a can be, even if a bit irascible.

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
30. ^^^this^^^
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 02:21 AM
Sep 2013

100% correct.
Staying home on Election Day will NOT push the Democratic Party to the left, it will only help the RWNJ party stay in power and continue destroying our country. Amen.
Fabulous article in Daily Beast today (I can't figure out how to link on my phone), "The Rise of the New New Left." How for the past 30+ years we've had the Reagan (government is evil) and Clinton (Wall Street friendly) political philosophies, and Obama is a Clintonite. But now we have the Millenial generation coming to power. Young people who can't get good jobs thanks to corporate greed, and who see the vital need for a strong safety net. The generation that brought us Occupy is way more left-leaning than their elders, and they're only beginning to show their political muscle. There's hope yet.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
31. She would've been partisan and the American people would've loved it.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 02:23 AM
Sep 2013

She would've called out every vote.

Now? I don't know how she'd be now that she was a SoC who's job description is almost literally being diplomatic and seeing things from others' perspective.

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