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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:23 AM Sep 2013

How would a 50% tax rate affect corporations and the wealthy??

Would they create less jobs? Would it cause a major recession?

Or would it simply mean less for stockholders and the CEO's? And less for mergers? And less to put in the stock market?

Shouldn't Democrats be asking for higher taxes on the wealthy at this time? Or would it be a bad move politically?

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How would a 50% tax rate affect corporations and the wealthy?? (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2013 OP
How about this disidoro01 Sep 2013 #1
Would it stop politicians from gutting social programs? leftstreet Sep 2013 #2
+1 Boom Sound 416 Sep 2013 #13
Already there in New York City. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #3
Already there? dugog55 Sep 2013 #6
Plenty of people do. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #8
I pay about 50% tax rate mainer Sep 2013 #11
Income tax vs Capital gains Boom Sound 416 Sep 2013 #12
We have all seen the wealth disparity charts. mick063 Sep 2013 #4
Why stop at 50%? Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #5
Careful when you dig on stockholders... Monster_Mash Sep 2013 #7
401K's ?? kentuck Sep 2013 #9
No. Public pension funds. Igel Sep 2013 #14
Disastrous for many TheDeputy Sep 2013 #10
They would cut back on the yacht parties. L0oniX Sep 2013 #15
I don't care. rrneck Sep 2013 #16

disidoro01

(302 posts)
1. How about this
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:26 AM
Sep 2013

Kentuck? Why aren't democrats asking, not shouldn't they be asking. Right there is the answer to your questions.

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
2. Would it stop politicians from gutting social programs?
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:26 AM
Sep 2013


Is there some guarantee the increased taxes would fund programs for the people? Why haven't military and intelligence budgets taken hits?
 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
13. +1
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sep 2013

There is a story in GD about new missile silos in Vermont. I'm sure Raytheon would love for taxes to climb to 50%

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. Already there in New York City.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:29 AM
Sep 2013

Top Federal rate is 39.6%, plus state tax of 8.8%, plus city tax of 3.6%.

dugog55

(296 posts)
6. Already there?
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:41 AM
Sep 2013

You state that the top Federal Tax rate is 39.6%, it may be, but do you honestly think anyone with big money pays anywhere near that? Warren Buffet who makes millions a year and is worth billions, claims he pays a lower percentage than his secretary. Their actual tax rate is nowhere near 39.6%, unless they have idiots for tax lawyers.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. Plenty of people do.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:53 AM
Sep 2013

Warren Buffett is a bit of a special case because he makes all of his money from investments and so most of his taxes are capital gain taxes.

But anyone earning a large enough salary will be liable to pay the top rate of income tax.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
11. I pay about 50% tax rate
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 12:02 PM
Sep 2013

combined federal + state + property.

And I don't have idiots for accountants. I just have law-abiding accountants.

It hasn't stopped me from still wanting to work.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
4. We have all seen the wealth disparity charts.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:38 AM
Sep 2013

Some folks post as if we should link to them every time out. As if such things should be continuously "proven". As if every post should include the givens such as the "GOP or Rand Paul sucks" or that the wealthy elite are hoarding money.

I have a suggestion for those that tire of these cumbersome distractions. Distractions intentionally wrought to waste time and energy from solution based discussion.

Let us see if we can imbed such things to mitigate the never ending effort to discount or ignore the great wealth disparity.

I believe I should work on this.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
9. 401K's ??
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:02 AM
Sep 2013

Which most workers withdraw from at some time or other. And how much do they have to pay in taxes??

Igel

(35,300 posts)
14. No. Public pension funds.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 12:10 PM
Sep 2013

Imagine Detroit's problem spread to every single city and town, every state pension, every federal pension ... In the next year or two.

That's what you'd get. We'd have to choice but to slash military spending (which would put a lot of civilians and soldiers and researchers on unemployment) to pay for retirees' pensions.

Meanwhile, the wealthy have pretty much always kept their actual tax rate at about 20-25%, whether the top tax rate was 90% or 50% or 35%. There's a blip for a year or two after a tax rate increase or decrease, but then it's back to 20-25%. It takes a few years to find deductions and ways to avoid taxes and then to implement them.

It's unclear that the windfall profits that would be funneled to lower-income folk would ever materialize. But the military as a path to upward mobility would be shot.

 

TheDeputy

(224 posts)
10. Disastrous for many
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:38 AM
Sep 2013

Public Employee Pensions and non public 401k and other retirement funds invest in these stocks to properly fund the retirements of tens of millions of people. It would destroy the pension, for example, of every government employee in Ohio, past and present.

Stocks would plummet, jobs would flee overseas, manufacturing would die completely in America. An unmitigated disaster. Prices would skyrocket.

50% taxes would mean the death of American Industry. 50% isn't a tax, it is outright robbery.

Wages additionally would plummet, as there wouldn't be money for raises.


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