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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:49 AM Sep 2013

Nestle Food producers test for kangaroo and dog, conference told

Steps to prevent other species entering food chain taken after horse meat crisis. The horse meat crisis has led the world’s largest food manufacturer Nestle to test for the presence of meat such as kangaroo and dog, head of food safety at the firm’s research centre Dr John O’Brien said yesterday.

Dr O’Brien, a former head of the Food Safety Authority of Ireland, said people working in food safety had now become molecular detectives. “Not only are we concerned with horse, we are also keeping an eye on kangaroo, dogs, goats and a few other species and asking questions. Could any of these find their way into the food chain? So we have probes for all of those.”

Dr O’Brien was speaking at the Agricultural Science Association conference in Waterford yesterday. Nestle was one of many food companies drawn into the horse meat crisis earlier this year. It had to withdraw product in Italy, Spain and France after it was found to contain horse DNA.

ABP Food Group was one of the companies at the centre of the horse meat controversy and had to sell its Silvercrest burger production plant in the wake of the crisis but yesterday ABP chief executive Paul Finnerty told the 300 delegates that the company was “standing tall” after the crisis and its customer base was intact. “We didn’t lose any customers in our chilled beef business and I think it’s fair to say that the reputation of Irish beef internationally has not been damaged,” he said. “We’re still in the business of frozen burgers in the UK and continue to serve five of the top seven retailers in that particular market place.”

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/agribusiness-and-food/food-producers-test-for-kangaroo-and-dog-conference-told-1.1527122

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Nestle Food producers test for kangaroo and dog, conference told (Original Post) Sunlei Sep 2013 OP
Are there McDonald's in Australia? leveymg Sep 2013 #1
Didn't Australia have an "Eat More Skippy" campaign FarCenter Sep 2013 #4
Now, if we could only find a way to get Skippy to eat a little less . . . leveymg Sep 2013 #7
Skippy eats a hell of a lot less than cattle Aerows Sep 2013 #15
...testing ...just to make sure ...because there is weak oversite? L0oniX Sep 2013 #2
the wholesale boxes of meat they buy may be misslabeled..sold as beef but actually not beef Sunlei Sep 2013 #3
If you eat it "flash frozen" Aerows Sep 2013 #16
So glad the story turned out this way. MelungeonWoman Sep 2013 #5
Me too! Laffy Kat Sep 2013 #8
Well depending on the country, they are marketable Revanchist Sep 2013 #10
Just wait Aerows Sep 2013 #18
you're right! I remember reading the demand for meat is up something like 10x in China. Sunlei Sep 2013 #20
I've eaten kangaroo. It's tasty. MineralMan Sep 2013 #6
Here, son Aerows Sep 2013 #14
Fukushima Tuna, already pre cooked. . B Calm Sep 2013 #25
Me too. It's sold in my local supermarket and there's nothing wrong with it n/t Violet_Crumble Sep 2013 #23
They better hop to it. marmar Sep 2013 #9
Oh ho ho, yes! NuclearDem Sep 2013 #11
Interesting how the DNA scandal has changed the economy in some countries. Sunlei Sep 2013 #12
Oh look Aerows Sep 2013 #13
good point! I don't buy any foods, even pet foods 'processed' especially by china if I can help it. Sunlei Sep 2013 #17
She is part of the family Aerows Sep 2013 #19
I always wanted to DNA test those little china treats with the red 'meat' strip wrapped on them. Sunlei Sep 2013 #21
The horrible shocker will be when they find human DNA in there mtnester Sep 2013 #22
eww human DNA. :( a lot of those slaughter houses that wholesale big containers of meat... Sunlei Sep 2013 #24
I am seriously considering giving up meat. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #26
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
4. Didn't Australia have an "Eat More Skippy" campaign
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 01:09 PM
Sep 2013

Certain species of kangaroo have become pests and need to be better controlled.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
15. Skippy eats a hell of a lot less than cattle
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:25 AM
Sep 2013

But skippy does't produce milk, which results in a lack of cheese, which... well, for *me* is a problem.

Better off with sheep and goats.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
3. the wholesale boxes of meat they buy may be misslabeled..sold as beef but actually not beef
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 01:05 PM
Sep 2013

Not so much a problem if they buy local but many buy the cheapest"beef' that comes from slaughterhouses in mexico or Australia. big frozen shipping containers flash frozen.

The same slaughterhouse may gather kangaroos, horses, dogs? and change the label sell it wholesales as beef.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. If you eat it "flash frozen"
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:30 AM
Sep 2013

these days, you really don't know what you are eating. You might be eating the missing dog down the street that went all around the world to be processed only to end up in the soup pot as ... whatever it is labeled as.

We are reducing our own nation to third world standards for what reason, I have no idea.

MelungeonWoman

(502 posts)
5. So glad the story turned out this way.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 01:30 PM
Sep 2013

I thought from the headline that they were testing the public to find out if kangaroo and dog were marketable!

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
10. Well depending on the country, they are marketable
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 02:33 PM
Sep 2013

The butcher shop at my local farmer's market sells kangaroo http://countrybutchershopanddeli.com/exotic-meats.html and I know you can buy dog meat in other countries.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. Just wait
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:31 AM
Sep 2013

It's probably going to be a breaking story, soon. TPP will make that happen.

You won't know what is on your dinner plate due to the demand for meat in China.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. you're right! I remember reading the demand for meat is up something like 10x in China.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:36 AM
Sep 2013

China is turning into meat eaters and probably easy to scam with toxic scrap meat.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
6. I've eaten kangaroo. It's tasty.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 01:33 PM
Sep 2013

But, then, if it's put in front of me, I'll generally eat it, whatever it is. My Mom told me to "clean my plate."

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
14. Here, son
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:22 AM
Sep 2013

It's Tuna. It's from Fukushima.

Remember, you will never die, and you will never get old.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. Interesting how the DNA scandal has changed the economy in some countries.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:02 AM
Sep 2013

Quite a few arrests overseas and some processing places close and reopen with a new name.

I guess when the huge shipping containers of 'meat' change hands several times, there are more chances for relabel to add a lot of profit and cheat the honest producers. Not fit for human consumption, a lot of toxins & animal medications cause disease and cancer.

I assume this effects less wealthy peoples health the most. School children's meals. They tend to buy the cheaper processed 'meals' where the meat used goes through several hands and countries.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. Oh look
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:17 AM
Sep 2013

the invisible hand of the market at work again.

I hope it works before it kills a bunch of people because they are processing chicken in China and shipping it back to the US.

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/09/how-chinese-processed-chicken-was-approved-for-export-to-usa/#.Uja-P8YQYSU

It scares the heck out of the meat eater in me and for my cat.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
17. good point! I don't buy any foods, even pet foods 'processed' especially by china if I can help it.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:31 AM
Sep 2013

It's hard these days because I assume most pet foods, even dry buy the 'meat and bone meal' listed on the bag from some 'outside' source. That stuff has to be the worse slop if they feed what used to be dog food to people these days.

must be why there are so many recalls of pet foods and they even tell people to not touch pet foods any more.

I now feed my dogs a plain dry and give a cooked egg, a chicken wing raw, raw beef bone, or a homemade type 'soup' as an extra- couple times a week. Seem to stay healthy to very old age.

Used to use canned food but I lost a good healthy dog to massive kidney failure about a year before that melamine poisoning issue. scared me off canned pet foods, pets don't live long enough as it is to me.

Try that raw chicken wing for your kitty, oh my they love it

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. She is part of the family
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:35 AM
Sep 2013


This idea of processed China chicken scares the crap out of me. I'm sure she would love hydrogen peroxide laced chicken feet that are 46 years old! You know they aren't going to "dispose" of 2 million tons of that, it will go right back into the pet food industry.

That story horrified me for my girl kitten.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. I always wanted to DNA test those little china treats with the red 'meat' strip wrapped on them.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:52 AM
Sep 2013

To see what kind of 'meat' that was. I can only imagine!, it must be horrible stuff because there are no regulations in the USA for pet treats.

mtnester

(8,885 posts)
22. The horrible shocker will be when they find human DNA in there
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:09 AM
Sep 2013

We should all demand to know exactly where our food comes from, and what is in it, and how it is processed and handled...at all times...clearly and in easy to read format

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
24. eww human DNA. :( a lot of those slaughter houses that wholesale big containers of meat...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:17 AM
Sep 2013

are in mexicos border towns where thousands have died. Be easy for anyone to dispose of people in those shipping containers of random chunks of ground-up 'meat' labeled as beef scrap.

LuvNewcastle

(16,834 posts)
26. I am seriously considering giving up meat.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:52 AM
Sep 2013

I'll probably never give up seafood, if it's freshly caught from around here, but the more I read about how meat is packaged and the hormones they feed the animals, it's just getting too nasty to think about. I usually eat meat with my meals twice a day, so it would be a big change in my diet, but I really don't need it. I like to have plenty of protein in my diet, so I'll have to think about how I'm going to get that.

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