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Raising hell can WORK ! (Original Post) Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 OP
YES! GO LEFT!!!!!! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1
I like the way you think 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #2
+10 RC Sep 2013 #3
We have to fight harder. And no third party. We need to kick the G-damn conservatives out rhett o rick Sep 2013 #4
I am hoping the Benghazi blue14u Sep 2013 #11
I wish to god we had the choice of her Aerows Sep 2013 #14
Lis is a very intelligent woman.. blue14u Sep 2013 #15
I love her Aerows Sep 2013 #16
Oh I believe she blue14u Sep 2013 #20
I stole your sig Aerows Sep 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author blue14u Sep 2013 #19
My problem is that I think our election system is broken (or "fixed"). rhett o rick Sep 2013 #22
the threat of going third party scares them remember what Perot did in 92 yurbud Sep 2013 #24
I respectfully disagree. The way I see it the Democratic Party machinery rhett o rick Sep 2013 #25
I hope you are right. the trick is to get candidates who can't be bought or intimidated yurbud Sep 2013 #26
That's exactly what we must fight. If we cant get control of the DEmocratic Party rhett o rick Sep 2013 #28
Then we need to turn it on the Trans-Pacific Partnership starroute Sep 2013 #5
Yep! Union Scribe Sep 2013 #6
You , gentle poster, are correct! Vanje Sep 2013 #9
Once again, Vanje get's it right. Aerows Sep 2013 #12
+1,000,000 nt LWolf Sep 2013 #21
Yep. nt Vanje Sep 2013 #27
"Go out and make me do it." MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #7
rec kick WHOOP! nt Vanje Sep 2013 #8
Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #10
Get rid of TPP Aerows Sep 2013 #13
Yup - sent an email to my rep about that today. TBF Sep 2013 #29
if there was ever a force Aerows Sep 2013 #18
Are you saying...? kentuck Sep 2013 #23
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
2. I like the way you think
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:41 PM
Sep 2013

Let's keep it up!

Now can we 1/2 the NSA/CIA/Pentagon budgets,
free Bradley Manning and pardon Comrade Snowden?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. We have to fight harder. And no third party. We need to kick the G-damn conservatives out
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:11 PM
Sep 2013

of our party. And we need to decide how we will defeat Ms. 1% Clinton. If she wins the middle class will die during her term.

blue14u

(575 posts)
11. I am hoping the Benghazi
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:13 AM
Sep 2013

tape will keep rolling, and her.... "what difference does it make"

will turn most voters against her. She has other baggage also..

We can be sure it will all come out in the election if she runs..

I'm counting on it!

Elizabeth Warren for President 2016!!!
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
14. I wish to god we had the choice of her
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:22 AM
Sep 2013

because she is a practical, sensible and educated woman. She's everything those men keep preaching about "keep costs under control, fill the budget, make sure everything is paid for" ... and she does it, and they have their balls fall off because she does and it means they have fewer toys to play with.

blue14u

(575 posts)
15. Lis is a very intelligent woman..
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:14 AM
Sep 2013

She could run circles around them and they know it!

Her style is "tell it like it is plane, simple, and with grace and humility.

They should be scared of her.. She is brilliant and knows

her stuff..

Hill on the other had has way to much baggage.

If she is the candidate, I suspect we will see a very, VERY, nasty race..

One like never before..
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. I love her
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:19 AM
Sep 2013

I like Janet Yellen to lead the Fed. I think she's very good, and we will see a nasty race if Elizabeth Warren runs. I think she can handle it, though.

Response to Aerows (Reply #17)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
22. My problem is that I think our election system is broken (or "fixed").
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 09:04 AM
Sep 2013

Doesnt mean I wont fight on. By the time we get to vote the choices are the ones ThePowersToBe want. It will probably be Clinton vs. Christie.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
24. the threat of going third party scares them remember what Perot did in 92
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 12:11 PM
Sep 2013

and to a lesser extent in 96.

And to an even lesser extent, the independent run of John Anderson in 1980.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
25. I respectfully disagree. The way I see it the Democratic Party machinery
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 02:12 PM
Sep 2013

have been co-opted by the PowersToBe. They love Third Party talk because they dont care if their Democrat wins or their Republican wins. Third Party makes it easier for them to get their candidate nominated.

What I believe scares them (ThePowersToBe) is talk of progressives taking control of the Party. Dont let the PTB get their candidate nominated. Support Sen Warren for president.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
26. I hope you are right. the trick is to get candidates who can't be bought or intimidated
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:03 PM
Sep 2013

or if we have a measure of success, people might stop paying attention and things will go south again.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. That's exactly what we must fight. If we cant get control of the DEmocratic Party
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:25 PM
Sep 2013

we are sunk. Sen Warren, Sen Wyden, and Rep Grayson are an encouraging change.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
5. Then we need to turn it on the Trans-Pacific Partnership
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:18 PM
Sep 2013

That's the most immediate threat -- and the most potentially toxic.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
6. Yep!
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:22 PM
Sep 2013

Most people I bring it up to have never heard of it because of the cloak of secrecy it's being readied under, so it's going to take a LOT of fight. Maybe, just maybe though.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
12. Once again, Vanje get's it right.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:16 AM
Sep 2013

You are so right, let's turn it on the TPP now!

We got on disastrous politician out of the way, let get a disastrous policy out of the way.

Warren says no on it, and that says no to me, too. (well, and I have an intellect and knowledge of history and law)

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
10. Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 12:39 AM
Sep 2013

Recognize the hand that feeds us is the hand holding us down by our collars. The 1% or the RW or the whatever will fold quickly, we severely outnumber them and they only have so many bullets. That and the main body of their forces will join their families and oppose the PTB. Our government was written as an opposition to monarchy and it's modern equivalent the capitalist/corporatist oligarchy.
At least the aristocracy of an monarchical system had some peer pressure to act responsibly (Noblesse Oblige). Our "aristocracy" sees caring for other humans as an inherent weakness to be crushed before it can infect their children. We owe them nothing but the scorn they invested in us with interest.


Listen, there in the distance.....is someone crying a word?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. Get rid of TPP
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:18 AM
Sep 2013

NO to TPP

Warren says it's a disaster, critical thinking says it's a disaster, let's work for that to be history, instead of a historical economic disaster for the US!

NO to TPP.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. if there was ever a force
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:29 AM
Sep 2013

of financial darkness, Larry Summers is it.

He's even starting to look like a fat Emperor Palpatine, and probably the only lightning he conjures is out of his ass. Give him a year, he'll be grey and praying to keep down eggs.

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
23. Are you saying...?
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:29 AM
Sep 2013

It is good to protest and complain about policies you do not agree with? What a novel concept!

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