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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:50 PM Sep 2013

The more the effects of Climate Change hit, the more we will try to ignore Causes...

Human nature.

You will be sold the idea that if only you acknowledge Climate Change is real and make small, modest lifestyle changes, the problem will be solved.

Most will buy that and feel good about embracing a sensible compromise.

Unfortunately, that's a lie.

The truth is that the effects we're seeing now were baked into the oceans 20-40 years ago. And the problems we're baking into the oceans now are unspeakable.

The effects will be localized, but severe for a few more years. Feel grateful if the great dart of climate change effects doesn't hit your spot on the map.

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joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
1. Climate Change will finally be acknowledged after the Arctic Sea Ice is gone.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:54 PM
Sep 2013

That's 2-4 years from now tops (this is an easily tested prediction, btw).

And nothing will be done about it until we get several Hurricane Sandy's hitting the northeast US.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
2. Yep. Once the ice is gone, the Arctic will warm rapidly in the summer....
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:56 PM
Sep 2013

Lord only knows how bad THAT will make things.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
6. And all this "cooling" we're experiencing is going to let loose.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:03 PM
Sep 2013

What happens to a cup of water when the ice is done melting? It rapidly warms up.



We're in for one hell of a climate shock.
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
12. It's already messing with the jet stream, which is probably why
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:27 PM
Sep 2013

our ghastly extreme weather events settle into one place and don't move eastward anymore.

There was even a major front that moved from east to west, pushing stormy weather ahead of it across the Midwest fairly recently - it was huge and unprecedented. I don't remember where I found that, but the weather source was impeccable and I saw the map/time lapse.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
15. Yep. And the droughts that never end. And our heat waves here
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:43 PM
Sep 2013

that settle in and take weeks to break.

I'm basically from Colorado. At least more than I'm "from" anyplace else. Weather does NOT settle in and get stuck there like this. Summer and fall thunderstorms shoot over the Rockies like they came out of a cannon barrel, and are over the plains before you can grab your camera or umbrella.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
3. Some of us remember people like Issac Asimov ringing the warning bell many, many years ago.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:56 PM
Sep 2013

They KNEW that nothing would get done. They KNEW.....sigh..

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
4. It's what you Don't Know that gets you....
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:00 PM
Sep 2013

People were pretty good at predicting LARGE parameters like Temp vs. Time. What no one could know was the Effects of a given temp rise and when feedback processes would kick in.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. I had the great honor do sitting in a seminar by Jim Bell
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:01 PM
Sep 2013

At sdsu in the early 1980s. He was ringing the bell in the 1970s

Recent article talking about him

http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/13984

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
7. Methane reaches 2571 ppb
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:04 PM
Sep 2013

"The image below shows the peak levels that have been reached recently, as well as the highest mean methane level for each day."


http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2013/09/methane-reaches-2571-ppb.html

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
10. That particular solution may well be taken by climate change itself...
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:22 PM
Sep 2013

Or should I say Mother Nature.

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