Republicans are now working to address those ethnicities they haven't pissed off yet...

[stevenleser]

Republicans are now trying to figure out which ethnicities they haven't pissed off yet and are working to make those mad at them too. They are now insulting the First Indian American Miss America as "Not representing America's values" All I can say is, Americans with ancestry in the subcontinent, we Democrats DO think you represent America's values. Welcome to the Democratic Party, the party of diversity, inclusion and tolerance.

[Scuba]

1. Pale skin is not an American value.

[MH1]

2. Well, she's studying to be a doctor, and Lawd knows, THAT's not an "American Value" (tm)

to republicans.

Sigh.

[DetlefK]

4. Translation: "She's an elitist and probably believes in climate-science."

[HappyMe]

3. I can't believe that there were

ethnicities left for them to piss off. I figured that they had run through them all by now.

[stevenleser]

5. "Luckily" for Republicans, they don't seem to know a lot about the rest of the world...

for instance, some are complaining that we now have a "Muslim Miss America". Of course, like a majority of Indians, our new Miss America is Hindu.

If Republicans had more awareness of the rest of the world, I am sure they would more rapidly get around to specifically insulting each group in turn. They'll get there anyway, but their ignorance prevents them from doing it faster.

[HappyMe]

7. I hadn't thought of the

can't/won't see beyond their noses factor.

[Chan790]

38. They also don't seem to know...

Miss USA 2010 Rima Fakih is actually Muslim.

[SummerSnow]

44. I remember when she won, some conservative bloggers accused her of being a Hezzbollah operative.

smh

[whttevrr]

45. WoW...

She graduated from Henry Ford Community College, went on to earn degrees in economics and business management from the University of Michigan–Dearborn, and plans to attend law school after her year-long reign.

She is awesome.

[Blue_Tires]

66. DO WANT

She looks even better than this year's winner

[malaise]

6. Someone should ask those two southern governors for

comments.

[BumRushDaShow]

8. Waiting for Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, & Dinesh D'Souza to come out

and denounce the hatred. But I'll probably be waiting a long time so....

[stevenleser]

11. It will be very interesting to see if/how those three address it.

Their base is heavily invested against diversity and tolerance. That's one of the reasons Romney twice gave speeches trying to convince "people" (Republicans and other Conservatives mostly) that they shouldn't be afraid of supporting Mormons, one in 2008 and one in 2012, but did not make the speech broader about religious inclusion.

If he had, he would have further alienated his base. Republicanism depends on discrimination and intolerance.

[ashling]

12. I the 20s , ethnic Czechs, Poles, etc., in East Texas (and elsewhere)

joined lynch mobs to prove that they were a part of the Southern White culture.

This was covered in the book Lynching to Belong (Texas A&M Press). I'm sure those you mention would
have been right there.

[SummerSnow]

34. You'll be Rip Van Winkle waiting for them.

[Katashi_itto]

51. As someone who is under Jindal's Reign of terror

I personally think he's something of a sociopath like most Right Wingers. I think he makes an effort to forget his nationality. He certainly keeps his parents far away from the spot light.

[KamaAina]

62. He took the name "Bobby" from the Brady Bunch!

His name is actually Piyush. But don't tell anyone, 'cause that'd make you a racist.

[tkmorris]

9. Which Republicans are you referring to?

I have seen some of the Twitter comments etc. but I haven't seen anything attributed to a Republican yet.

[stevenleser]

10. More grassroots Republican/Conservative comments than anything, so far... nt

[stevenleser]

25. Radio Talk show host Todd Starnes

http://www.today.com/style/new-miss-americas-heritage-evokes-racist-comments-twitter-8C11167234

[Chaco Dundee]

13. says who

Iam married to a tuscarora squaw for 28 years.married her because she was then and is now prettier in mind and in body than any pale face lady I've ever met.

[NYC_SKP]

14. Hi Chaco Dundee!

I was born in parts of the country near Tuscarora and I travel extensively, and I'm always charmed by people I meet, including this summer some members of the Jemez Pueblo near Albuquerque on my way to Farmington, with a stop in Chaco Canyon (how about that?).

My question is this: Your reply was alerted upon for your use of the term "squaw" and one of the jurors found your use of the term "pale face" to be offensive, too.

I'm of a different, more tolerant mind, and willing to imagine that different cultures have different standards, and that we need to be respectful and give the benefit of the doubt.

It's quite possible that "squaw" is, in your circles, not an insult and might even be a term of endearment.

It's also possible that "pale face" is so commonly used that it doesn't offend anyone in your circles, including caucasians.

If you have time, please discuss use of these words with me, feel free to send a PM if you like, or even post in our Native American forum, here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1191

Thanks in advance.

[nolabear]

16. You are my DU Hero of the Day. THAT'S how to talk about things!

I jumped back at the phrases too, but I know quite a few Indians (yes, Indians) who grin at the pc concerns of people who don't actually go on and get involved in any way with Indian life and bring their own opinions to bear in a thoughtful way. I've been struggling with this on DU lately, the tendency to clutch the pearls (yeah, but it's such a perfect description) and name call and alert rather than invite dialogue. And when I do, they generally don't honor me with a response.

So THANKS for that. I may meander over and see if a good talk ensues.

[NYC_SKP]

18. Thanks!

It's not hard to be civil, and if you're as compassionate toward other cultures, and native americans in particular, as I am, then it comes naturally.

Here's a post I made in the DU native american forum: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1191689

Thanks!

[Chaco Dundee]

49. I apreciate your thoughts

I happen to be of the arian race.I get called nazi a lot.I'm young and not in any way oriented in that political direction.but if you call me german or even fritz,it awakens my national pride,wich I have a right to have,as well as people of any nationaliy.you are not responsible for what people might have done in the name of you nationality if you did not participate.as for the love of my life,she does not mind to be adressed in a traditional traditional way,since she is as proud to be who she is as I am.her goal in life is to be respected without reservation and have equal rights as a given fact.not affordet by some bigot.she thrives to make live better by caring and educating herself in any way to make the life of our children and ours the best it can be.as to palefaces all I can say is that they don't tan as well as indians.I can tell by the color of my own hide.

[stevenleser]

29. I'm the one who alerted, after looking up the term.

My first instinct was that I thought it was an offensive term, and ever reference I could find confirmed it.

I am willing to be proven wrong, particularly by the community at whom it would be aimed. I am also part Aborigine, Latin American Aborigine to be more specific, but am not as in tune with Native American issues as I would like.

[whttevrr]

35. You should check out the link that was provided by NYC_SKP here

http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/squaw.html

It appears to be contextual in nature as to its usage as a pejorative or reverent term.

[nolabear]

36. Thanks for that.

So hard to figure out what's morally right when it's not possible to offend no one and one can get caught between two opposing moral opinions.

Imo it's not so important to never make a mistake or cause a hurt (on either side) but it's what you do then. I very much appreciate you explaining what happened.

[Chaco Dundee]

50. I did not mean to offend anybody

I have more respect for all people to mean to offend anybody because of heritage.

[sinkingfeeling]

31. +1000

[Chaco Dundee]

52. thank you for your confidence

Those terms where not ment in any demening manner but used since they are householdterms for many and should not be considered a slur at all

[bitchkitty]

15. I cannot fucking believe that this post

was not removed.

[Nye Bevan]

17. Yeah, "squaw" joined the list of outrageously offensive words

quite some time ago.

[NYC_SKP]

19. Here you go:

http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/squaw.html

Unless you live in Tuscarora and are original to this continent yourself, you might not have good standing to be so outraged.

I'm not sure, mind you, and I'm trying to learn more about it.

[Nye Bevan]

21. Hey, no fair,

trying to take away a reason for outrage and self-righteousness.

I bet you'll be telling me next that it's OK to say "niggardly".

[bitchkitty]

23. Speaking as a pale-faced woman,

I am fucking outraged, and I don't care if there are "Indians who smile" about my concerns. I don't have to be active in Native American politics or life to be offended. If he was married to a black woman and called her a "n*****" or something equally offensive, would you be inviting dialogue then?

It's way beyond acceptable and you apologists for racism make me sick.

[whttevrr]

32. But... the link says otherwise...

Squaw means the totality of being female

Squaw is NOT an English word. It IS a phoenetic rendering of an Algonkian word that does NOT translate to "a woman's private parts." The word "squaw" - as "esqua," "squa," "skwa," "skwe" and other variants - traditionally means the totality of being female, not just the female anatomy. The word has been interpreted by modern activists as a slanderous assault against Native American women. But traditional Algonkian speakers, in both Indian and English, still say words like "nidobaskwa" = a female friend, "manigebeskwa" = woman of the woods, or "Squaw Sachem" = female chief. When Abenaki people sing the Birth Song, they address "nuncksquassis" = "little woman baby."

It seems it is a particularly 'American' thing to equate the feminine with a negativity that is not really present in the 'Native American' vernacular.

Is it at all possible that there is something else going on here that is causing your outrage?

It just seems a little bit over reactive.

[stevenleser]

40. The person/group at whom a comment is directed gets to decide though, not other groups.

It doesnt matter if a white person doesnt think the N word is derogatory. It's African Americans that get to decide when and how and if its use is non-discriminatory.

Same with words directed at LGBT, Hispanics, Muslims, Jews, etc.

So, as the alerter, I would say that I think that post is still hideworthy for use of "Pale Face" and its still a big questionmark over the use of the word to describe a native american female.

NYC_SKP's links don't say "It's never offensive", they just say it depends on the context and the way native Americans in the area of that person use the word.

[whttevrr]

43. He did say that it was his wife he was describing.

So, as far as "squaw" goes, I would imagine the poster would have a better understanding of it's offense or reverence.

But "Pale Face"? Really?

You find that offensive?

Why?

[Chaco Dundee]

58. your opening statement is correct

However though you arive to compare a term of endearment in my family and to my wife to the N word eludes me and my wife.actually that is quite an insult ,comparison ,that I would not considere ever making,let alone to anybodys wife.

[stevenleser]

59. I did not compare what you said to use of the N-word

I used it as an example, not a comparison.

[Chaco Dundee]

60. k.

[whttevrr]

69. Yeah... ya did...

It doesnt matter if a white person doesnt think the N word is derogatory. It's African Americans that get to decide when and how and if its use is non-discriminatory.

How about you just apologize and admit you made a mistake. Is that really so hard or earth shattering?

[stevenleser]

70. No... I didn't...

[Chaco Dundee]

56. thank you

Thank you for coming to my defence.I could not have said the same in such a well researched and eloquent way.

[whttevrr]

68. Your welcome...

But the thanks should go to NYC_Skip for finding the link. I just clicked and read...

I do wish people could be more tolerant.

[nolabear]

39. I know your name calling seems more acceptable than theirs but it IS name calling.

And it doesn't help. It only shows you standing there with your anger, alone, rather than yes, standing in your own power and convictions but trying to talk and listen.

I've spent a lifetime with a roughly 20% Choctaw background, trying to understand how it affected my deeply ashamed grandmother, influenced my father (who could have registered during a time when the tribe was desperately seeking to fill the rolls) who didn't feel it fair to receive benefits, and me, who is proud of a specific ancestor for many reasons but is shy about the whole thing because I run the risk of being labeled a "wannabe" both in the tribe and out. I have Indian friends and there's no consensus on what is "right" and "wrong". Remember, the tribes and families are not homogenous. They're very varied and have many ways of seeing things.

It's complicated.

[Chaco Dundee]

55. really

The ones who sream the loudest are usually the ones to watch,especially for what they hide.this is my proud wife you nitwitt.

[panader0]

24. Interesting and informative article.

[Chaco Dundee]

54. thank you

I ment repect,no harm.

[Chaco Dundee]

53. oh my

Is that because your mind is in the gutter?

[sinkingfeeling]

37. Welcome to DU. Try to ignore some who seek to re-define native Americans'

words and language.

[Chaco Dundee]

57. thanks

Will take that adwise

[treestar]

20. The strange thing is

A lot of Indian culture is in tune with the values of conservatives. Which goes to show how dumb conservatives are.

[yuiyoshida]

26. A toast to diversity!

KAMPAI!!

[Los Angeles]

27. GOP going mad.

[gopiscrap]

42. Welcome to DU

[Los Angeles]

63. Thank-you !

[gopiscrap]

64. You're welcome

[William769]

28. I'm surprised to hear there are still groups left they haven't pissed off.

[stevenleser]

30. They're working on getting around to them. It's hard figuring out who all of them are when...

you don't read books and don't travel.

[William769]

33. I have some relatives in Cherokee North Carolina I would love to introduce them to.

[gopiscrap]

46. Yeah no kidding, like I've said before if you're a woman, lgbt, person of color,

union, educator, social worker or earn under 60K a year you have no business voting republican.

[William769]

47. Agreed.

[SummerSnow]

41. ***Breaking News***

Republicans are now working to address ethnicities that they haven't angered. According to a source, only two groups were on the list. ...Cyclops' and giants. We asked a group of Cyclops about their name on the list. They responded, "we are keeping a close EYE on them". The giants responded to the list,"they are going to have a BIG problem with us"

[gopiscrap]

48. yeah just about

[freshwest]

72. I don't know how I stumbled on this post but... BWAHAHA!

[Bohemianwriter]

61. Is there anyone left they haven't pissed off yet?

They seem hell bent on pushing "American Exceptionalism" to bash even your closest allies.

Have they started bashing NATIVE Americans yet for not being "American" and called them out as being golddiggers and freeloaders yet?

[Vanje]

65. Give em time.

[JHB]

67. They're after the "purple with pink polka dots" vote

You know what they always say: "I don't care if a person is white, or black, or brown, or purple with pink polka dots, ..."

They've pissed off everyone else, the only minority they have left is the PwPP community. (And they'll never count whites as a minority)

[Jamaal510]

71. Aside from this,

I dont think Republicans have touched much on Asians or Native Americans yet. So far what I have seen in the media, they seem to have been venting their fury mostly towards people of Latin descent and especially Blacks.