RUSSIAN SHOT IN QUARREL OVER KANT'S PHILOSOPHY

[Astrad]

MOSCOW (AP) -- An argument in southern Russia over philosopher Immanuel Kant, the author of "Critique of Pure Reason," devolved into pure mayhem when one debater shot the other.

A police spokeswoman in Rostov-on Don, Viktoria Safarova, said two men in their 20s were discussing Kant as they stood in line to buy beer at a small store on Sunday. The discussion deteriorated into a fistfight and one participant pulled out a small nonlethal pistol and fired repeatedly.

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Proving once again that beer and Kant don't mix.

[hobbit709]

1. Kant's cant and beer.

[aikoaiko]

2. I can hear the defense. "It was a moral imperative that I shoot him".

[Xipe Totec]

3. Pure Reason Sucks! Oh, Yea? BAM! nt

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Subtitle:

How to put windows in a monad.

[BeyondGeography]

5. That's what happens when you go all Schopenhauer on the wrong dude

[kentauros]

11. Not dude; Bruce.

Only Bruces fight over philosophy with guns

[progressoid]

21. He was a pissant

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. The shooter was quoted as saying

'A categorical imperative would be one which represented an action as objectively necessary in itself, without reference to any other purpose.'



Immanuel Kant


At least they weren't fighting over who ate the last of the cheetos

Like they do in Florida.

[Junkdrawer]

7. Proving, once again, that maturity and intellect are orthogonal. n/t

[KittyWampus]

8. nonlethal pistol? I didn't know philosophy extended to pistol nomeclature.

"one participant pulled out a small nonlethal pistol and fired repeatedly"

Was it a paintball pistol?

[Javaman]

13. maybe it didn't have bullets?

and the guy was shot with a metaphor?

[Mojorabbit]

33. .

[Chan790]

9. The surprising part there...

is finding two people well-enough versed in Kant's Critique of Pure Reason to want to debate it standing in the same line.

[el_bryanto]

19. Debate it while completely missing the point. I'm not a Kant expert

but i feel pretty sure he didn't like violence used to enforce a philosophical point.

Bryant

[geek tragedy]

10. Would he make it a generally applicable rule binding upon all that

when arguing over philosophy one should shoot the other person if they are wrong?

[rug]

12. "Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made."

[Orrex]

14. The victim was heard to say "Please! You can't do this!"

"Think of all the lame-ass jokes that people are going to post about it!"

[msanthrope]

30. It's a categorical imperative to snark on this, isn't it? nt

[PowerToThePeople]

15. In The USA.

http://connecticut.news12.com/news/off-duty-norwalk-police-officer-richard-ribisl-allegedly-involved-in-bar-fight-1.6056285

NORWALK - Authorities are investigating a bar fight allegedly involving a Norwalk police officer.

At least you had two people that had read Kant. That is probably a rarity outside of University campuses in the USA. Heck, I have hot even read his "Critique of Pure Reason" yet, only practical reason.

[kenny blankenship]

16. A mild incident compared to the rioting of Russian chess hooligans

Chess riots have claimed the lives of thousands there and in nearby countries where Russian chess hooligans travel in great numbers to attend international tournaments. The carnage of their now predictable rioting has placed the future of the game in doubt.

[Baitball Blogger]

17. If it took this level of reasoning to start a fight in Florida,

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Florida Man & Florida Woman would become an endangered species.

[MH1]

23. You should probably change that to something like "a GOP convention"

rather than insulting a whole slew of DUers.

But I have to admit I laughed.

(come to think of it, "GOP convention" won't work ... people always get hurt if GOPper's get elected.)

[Baitball Blogger]

28. I see your point.

I was thinking that Florida Man and Florida Woman were a culture all their own.

[treestar]

18. Well I'll be

That Kant sure can be controversial!

I recall that Ayn Rand hated him with a passion, too. She thought his philosophy had ruined society.

[unblock]

20. immanual kant was a real pissant

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable,
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table,
David Hume could out-consume Schopenhauer and Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya 'bout the turning of the wrist,
Socrates himself was permanently pissed...
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will, with half a pint of shandy was
particularly ill,
Plato, they say, could stick it away, half a crate of whiskey every day,
Aristotle, Aristotle was a beggar for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart, "I drink therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed.

[KittyWampus]

22. I mentioned a Monty Python skit in a conversation the other day with a twenty something person

who had no idea what I was referring to.

[MH1]

24. Using a Monty Python quote in conversation with someone who has no clue

does not always end well. I have friends who can attest to this.

[kentauros]

26. The same with Firesign Theater.

And that's "domestic" humour!

[MineralMan]

31. I grow old; I grow old.

I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.

[randome]

25. Was his name Ed Snowden?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[shenmue]

27. Philosophy

Always one of the hardest classes for me.

Whatever happened to pillow fights, though? Or thumb wrestling?

[KansDem]

29. Maybe one challenged the other to a dual-ism

"I Kant stand him!"

[TalkingDog]

32. Time for the Philosopher's Song