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malaise

(268,693 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 04:59 PM Sep 2013

What will happen when Obamacare starts working next month

and people realize that ReTHUGs and their hacks in the media and the corporate medical industry have been lying to them big time.
People will see why the administration didn't waste money to counter the propaganda. Truth will out and I can't wait.

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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. So many people have fallen for the propaganda
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 05:04 PM
Sep 2013

and think it's a big scary government takeover of healthcare featuring death panels.

But as soon as they hear that Uncle Bob who has diabetes and high blood pressure was finally able to buy insurance, and that young Dave bought a policy costing $75 per month, and that mom's mammogram was totally free because it is considered preventive care under Obamacare, their views will change very quickly.

Warpy

(111,139 posts)
2. Stupid people will still prefer to believe propaganda
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 05:09 PM
Sep 2013

over what their eyes (and pay stubs) are telling them.

It's sad but true. There are also a lot of very stupid people out there.

leftstreet

(36,098 posts)
3. People who can afford insurance will be really happy
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 05:10 PM
Sep 2013

The ACA does indeed help many people access insurance

Also, if you can afford premiums for your under 26 kids, you'll be very relieved



 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
4. Aren't they supposed to cover mental health care fully?
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 05:13 PM
Sep 2013

I ask this because of the lack of mental health care coverage and the connection to mass shootings.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
6. In a number of ways including this one
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 05:56 PM
Sep 2013
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/11/stateline-mental-health/2798535/
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The federal health law will require Medicaid and all other health plans to cover mental health services on par with insurance coverage of physical illnesses. It also will add an estimated 8 million people to the Medicaid rolls in the first year, many of whom will have untreated mental illnesses. Another 7 million people are expected to get federal tax subsidies to purchase health insurance, many for the first time.

That surge in demand, combined with an already severe shortage of mental health workers, has many worried there won't be enough providers to serve everyone in need. States have deployed a variety of strategies to alleviate the longstanding shortage of mental health professionals. But experts agree peer specialists are the most successful.

Research shows that by using peer specialists, states can save mental health money by reducing hospitalizations and other emergency interventions. And people with mental illness who are helped by peers tend to experience more thorough and longer-lasting recoveries.

"They are a terribly important new addition to the workforce," says Bob Glover, director of the National Association of State Mental Health Program Directors. "When peers are involved, outcomes are dramatically better across the board," he says.
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
8. I can tell you one story about the complete uselessness of the county mental hospital in one city.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 06:05 PM
Sep 2013

If you're seriously depressed because you can't find a job and you're thinking of harming yourself, but have no addictions to alcohol or drugs, they can't help.

Nothing but one hour a week of recreational therapy which means playing Pictionary.
And ineffective antidepressants.

They think everybody has to have an addiction, therefore a 12-step meeting to go to to give their lives structure.

Truly a waste of taxpayers' money if you're not hearing voices or have substance abuse problems.

Then I see Dr. Drew on TV saying that 90% of suicidal people have substance abuse problems so you have to address the addictions.

Well, excuse my friend all to hell, because they didn't fit the norm and were not obsessive-compulsive. Just depressed because everyone in their lives was giving them hell.


Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. A majority of Americans will enjoy access to better healthcare.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 05:42 PM
Sep 2013

A minority will continue living in their own reality where Obama was born in Kenya and, as a new born infant, planted information so that someday he would be elected as the first Socialist Nazi Muslim President so he could destroy America with Communist Corporate health care.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
10. Employers are going to find it much harder to retain skilled workers.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:05 PM
Sep 2013

Many people are currently hostage to the health benefits their job provides. The exchanges will begin to break the employment - health insurance link and going forward it will be all about about salary $$$$$.
Your insurance will now follow you where ever you go, regardless of your employment status and the premium will adjust downward if your income drops.

Single payor is so close I can smell it.

 

H. Cromwell

(151 posts)
11. Not all peaches n cream
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:59 PM
Sep 2013

My daughter works 2 part time jobs for the school district...cafeteria worker and bus driver. She totals around 40 hours a week, supporting 2 children,during the school year but basically lives off her income tax refund during the summer months because she cannot collect UEB. With Obamacare kicking in she was told to choose one of her part time jobs...so they do not have to give her benefits. She will lose half her income and have to pay either a fine or money she cannot afford for medical care.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
13. Join the exchange next month and your daughter will get affordable inusrance. Obamacare is working.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:24 PM
Sep 2013

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
16. If your state has passed Medicaid expansion, she may be eligible for it.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 10:30 PM
Sep 2013

Either way, she'll get highly subsidized private insurance or maybe even no cost Medicaid.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
12. If other people are getting the rebate checks like I am, it's already working.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:22 PM
Sep 2013

BCBS has sent me three rebate checks over the past four months. My premiums have essentially dropped by 50%!

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