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SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:13 PM Sep 2013

Post-massacre analysis of shooters is useless

Last edited Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:19 PM - Edit history (1)

because we cannot/will not, as a nation, make any changes that could prevent future massacres.

There will always be unhinged people, unhappy people, vengeful people, mentally ill people, and just plain evil people.

We can NEVER fully "protect" ourselves from someone going off the deep-end and causing mayhem.

We are not willing to remove their weapons, or to commit them (they can get out on their own recognizance after 72 hours, usually).

Media goes apeshit every time one of these happens and they talk & talk & wring their hands, and trot out all their experts, and in the end, we just wait until the next one and it starts all over again.

Chris Matthews just called it "the dark side of freedom"..

It's money..

(lack of) Money prevents many people from getting the real mental health care they need
Money is generated (for media) from the additional coverage
Money is made by politicians who always get a transfusion from the NRA immediately following these massacres
Ad agencies rake in the dough creating ads for each "side" (killers v non-killers? )
Money gets spent big time on overtime for emergency people in each event
Money gets spent afterwards on extra, new-fangled security plans , devices & training..

and then we wait for the next one.

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Post-massacre analysis of shooters is useless (Original Post) SoCalDem Sep 2013 OP
Check out the suprisingly LONG lists on the links below... Tx4obama Sep 2013 #1
proper adjudication Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #2
I would not go as far as "useless". ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #3
Phuck the Second. GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #4
Money gets spent on buying more guns after these shootings. AlinPA Sep 2013 #5
yep.. I forgot that one SoCalDem Sep 2013 #6

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
1. Check out the suprisingly LONG lists on the links below...
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:17 PM
Sep 2013

School shootings and mass shootings have been happening for a very very long time - it's just that they are happening more frequently and we are hearing about them more.


A LONG list of school shootings starting way back in 1760s, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers_%28school_massacres%29


Also...

Rampage killings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers:_Americas

Work place killings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers:_Workplace_killings

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
2. proper adjudication
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:18 PM
Sep 2013

Is the problem. Its hard to restrict a persons rights with out convictions and some kind of court proceedings. We don't want a society where rights are taken away based on accusations, ie lack of a conviction.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
3. I would not go as far as "useless".
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:21 PM
Sep 2013

The data and analysis are always helpful. Unfortunately, most folks (especially Congress) are not willing to do the work necessary to successfully use the analysis. More unfortunately, some of the folks willing to put in the effort do not have the public's best interest in mind.

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