The stupid nutcases really do want to blow it all up

[n2doc]

If we get a debt ceiling crisis, it’s because Republican voters want one
By Greg Sargent, Published: September 18 at 5:18


If we are going to have a debt ceiling and default crisis — with all of the havoc it may well entail — it may well be because Republican voters want such a crisis, even if it causes serious economic harm.
No, really. That’s what a new poll shows.

The new Washington Post/ABC News poll on the debt ceiling tells us something remarkable: Among Republicans who believe that not raising the debt ceiling would cause serious harm to the economy, a majority of them wants Congress not to raise it anyway. By contrast, Americans overall see it in the opposite way.

This is a complicated one, but it’s worth it. The new WaPo poll asks two questions on the debt limit. It finds that 46 percent of Americans want Congress to raise the debt limit “so the government can keep paying its bills and obligations,” while 43 percent want Congress “not to raise the debt limit and let the government default on paying its bills and obligations.”

That’s roughly an even split; the debt limit tends to poll that way.

Meanwhile, the poll also finds that 73 percent think not raising the debt limit would “cause serious harm to the U.S. economy,” versus only 22 percent who say it wouldn’t. How to explain the divergence? It turns out it’s largely driven by Republicans.

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[Agnosticsherbet]

1. Yes, the sheep have Baaaaaaaaaad and their elected officials crapped upon us all. n/t

[Taitertots]

2. The Republican PTB have really backed themselves into a corner on this

Based on actions and not rhetoric, even the Republican PTB know Keynes was mostly correct.

The problem is publicly admitting it would be political suicide because they all have so much invested in Austerity=Growth and/or Debt=Crisis.

[Uncle Joe]

3. They may want to blow it up now but should it ever actually happen, many of them will change

their tune, particularly as it stays blown up over time, at which point the Republicans in power will get a serious backlash.

Thanks for the thread, n2doc.

[n2doc]

4. Or they'll just blame Obama for not caving in

That's my fear. Honestly I don't know how we get out of this, with so many people blinded by propaganda from Fox and hate radio.

[Uncle Joe]

5. I don't believe that will work, Obama has the bully pulpit and we have the Internet.

The peoples' esteem of the corporate media and belief in their journalistic integrity is precariously low, it will drop through the basement if they try that.

[Xyzse]

6. Sadly I think they will.

They really do have a ton more loudmouths that can stick to a story no matter what stimuli/fact/examples come at them from multiple directions showing them that they are wrong.

[Uncle Joe]

7. If this were 10-15 years ago, they would've been able to get away with it.

I don't believe it will work today and as time goes by even less so.

The American People in large part because of the Internet have become too aware, that's why the corporate media has been attacking the Internet specifically Net Neutrality in an attempt to turn the Net in to cable T.V. and diminish the American Peoples' First Amendment power.