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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 06:06 PM Sep 2013

NYT Editor Calls Out Own Paper for Ignoring NSA, Israel Revelations

Public editor openly disagrees with managing editor's claim 'story wasn't newsworthy'

Sarah Lazare, staff writer
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 by Common Dreams

New York Times public editor Margaret Sullivan on Monday publicly challenged her paper's decision to ignore last week's revelations that the National Security Agency shares unfiltered raw data intelligence files with the Israeli government.

The story, which was based on classified documents revealed by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and reported by Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Ewen MacAskill in the Guardian, was completely omitted from the globally-influential New York Times, despite being covered by the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, and The Washington Post.

In an open statement published Monday in the New York Times Public Editor's Journal, Sullivan explains that, by late last week, she had already received a deluge of complaints from readers who wanted to know why the story was completely missing, charging the omission threatens the credibility of the paper. When the weekend passed with still no mention, she decided on Monday to raise the issue with managing editor, Dean Baquet, she explains.

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Sullivan openly declares that, in her view, the findings of a secret intelligence sharing agreement with Israel is in fact newsworthy, and the New York Times had an obligation to report it.

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http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/09/17-2
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NYT Editor Calls Out Own Paper for Ignoring NSA, Israel Revelations (Original Post) Octafish Sep 2013 OP
Kick and Rec! Cooley Hurd Sep 2013 #1
Lies Of Our Times used to exist to correct the paper of record. Unfortunately, they're defunct... Octafish Sep 2013 #5
All the news they see fit to print pscot Sep 2013 #2
The Company gets a say-so. Octafish Sep 2013 #6
Of course it's not newsworthy Scootaloo Sep 2013 #3
Democracy needs the truth to function. So does Peace. Octafish Sep 2013 #9
Credibility is a hard thing to get back when you lose it. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #4
And that the Judith Miller and a few other scandals Rocked Their Creds... KoKo Sep 2013 #8
Precisely, KoKo, one would think after those episodes, they would wake the hell up Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #11
What a shock! TomClash Sep 2013 #7
K & R Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #10
She's been a good editor Championette Sep 2013 #12
Hard work keeping the plutocracy in place sometimes. Rex Sep 2013 #13
...charging the omission threatens the credibility of the paper." LOL Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #14

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Lies Of Our Times used to exist to correct the paper of record. Unfortunately, they're defunct...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 06:30 PM
Sep 2013

...but their archives are solid gold: http://liesofourtimes.org/

From their first issue, an article from some linguist (notice how we're still talking about the same old same old):



THE MIDDLE EAST LIE

By Noam Chomsky
Lies Of Our Times Posted on November 27, 2011

In a column entitled “The Middle East Lie” (New York Times, March 21, 1989), former Times Executive Editor A.M. Rosenthal complains that “the world no longer sees the reality of the Middle East” and is thus pressuring Israel to negotiate with the PLO. This “blunder” would lead to “another Palestinian state” in addition to “the existing Palestinian state of Jordan,” and inevitable war. The problem is that “the world” is in thrall to “a fundamental historical distortion”: “the lie [that] Israel refuses to negotiate for peace.” “The truth” is that Israel has been trying for 40 years to negotiate a peaceful settlement with its neighbors, while the Arab answer to Israel’s peace moves has been “rejection and war.” The sole exception is Egyptian President Anwar Sadat’s trip to Jerusalem in 1977 and the Camp David treaty. “The road to peace is through direct talks between Israel and her Arab neighbors” – excluding the Palestinians.

Rosenthal’s “Truth” Rosenthal’s tale is indeed “the truth” as constructed by Israel and the US. establishment – and faithfully recounted for many years by the New York Times. But the truth is rather different. Consider the period since the Israeli conquests of June 1967. The record for the crucial first decade, under the rule of the “pragmatic” and “moderate” Labor Party, is documented from cabinet records by Yossi Beilin (Mehiro shel Ihud, 1985). The guiding principle throughout, as described by Haim Herzog, now President of Israel, was that the indigenous population cannot be “participants in any way in a land that has been consecrated by our people for thousands of years. To the Jews of this land there cannot be any partner.” Accordingly, independent political activities were barred, as when Prime Minister Golda Meir, in 1972, forbade a pro-Jordanian political conference in the West Bank. The governing Likud coalition is still more extreme. Its central component, Herut, the party of Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir, insists officially and publicly upon Israel’s claim to Jordan.

On June 19, 1967, the Israeli cabinet voted 11-10 to transmit an offer via the U.S. for a settlement with Syria and Egypt on the international (pre-June 1967) borders, but with Israel keeping Gaza, No mention was made of Jordan and the West Bank. This proposal, which Abba Eban described as “the most dramatic initiative that the government of Israel ever took before or since,” was rescinded a year later, when Israel put forth the Allon Plan, which called for “territorial compromise.” Its terms were that Israel was to keep the Syrian Golan Heights, the Gaza Strip, and whatever it found of value in the West Bank – including about 40% of the land but not the bulk of the population. In essence, this remains the Labor Party position. There appear to have been no further initiatives, and Israel has forcefully rejected other proposals apart from the Camp David arrangements, which removed the major Arab deterrent (Egypt) from the conflict, with predictable effects. The result, as observed by Israeli strategic analyst Avner Yaniv, was that “Israel would be free to sustain military operations against the PLO in Lebanon as well as settlement activity on the West Bank. “A vast increase in U.S. aid ensured that these would be exactly the consequences of what Rosenthal calls “the political and spiritual triumph of Camp David.”

Arab Peace Initiatives

Turning to the record of Arab peace initiatives, the first major one was not in 1977 but in February 1971, when Sadat proposed a full peace treaty on the international borders, offering nothing to the Palestinians. This proposal, which conformed closely to the official U.S. stand, was recognized by Israel as a genuine peace offer, but rejected. Israel was backed by the U.S., which preferred “stalemate,” as Henry Kissinger later explained.

Another major initiative was in January 1976, when Syria, Jordan, and Egypt brought a resolution to the UN. Security Council calling for a two-state settlement on the international borders with “appropriate arrangements … to guarantee … the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of all states in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries.” This is the crucial wording of UN 242, which the U.S. government and the Times claim to regard as the proper basis for any settlement. The resolution was openly backed by the PLO, which actually “prepared” it, according to then Israeli U.N. Ambassador Haim Herzog.

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http://liesofourtimes.org/?p=264



There are better things to spend money on than technology to kill people.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. The Company gets a say-so.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 06:33 PM
Sep 2013

Getting around the First Amendment must be a matter of national security.



Correspondence and collusion between the New York Times and the CIA

Mark Mazzetti's emails with the CIA expose the degradation of journalism that has lost the imperative to be a check to power

Glenn Greenwald
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 29 August 2012 14.58 EDT

EXCERPT...

But what is news in this disclosure are the newly released emails between Mark Mazzetti, the New York Times's national security and intelligence reporter, and CIA spokeswoman Marie Harf. The CIA had evidently heard that Maureen Dowd was planning to write a column on the CIA's role in pumping the film-makers with information about the Bin Laden raid in order to boost Obama's re-election chances, and was apparently worried about how Dowd's column would reflect on them. On 5 August 2011 (a Friday night), Harf wrote an email to Mazzetti with the subject line: "Any word??", suggesting, obviously, that she and Mazzetti had already discussed Dowd's impending column and she was expecting an update from the NYT reporter.

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Even more amazing is the reaction of the newspaper's managing editor, Dean Baquet, to these revelations, as reported by Politico's Dylan Byers:

"New York Times Managing Editor Dean Baquet called POLITICO to explain the situation, but provided little clarity, saying he could not go into detail on the issue because it was an intelligence matter.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/29/correspondence-collusion-new-york-times-cia



And to think they once printed the Pentagon Papers...

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. Of course it's not newsworthy
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 06:21 PM
Sep 2013

Nothing that casts our "special relationship" with Israel in a poor light is newsworthy.

Besides, didn't you hear about what 50 year old Egyptian textbooks say about Israel? Now THAT'S news!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. Democracy needs the truth to function. So does Peace.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 08:24 PM
Sep 2013

It doesn't work when the paper of record is deciding what is or isn't worth telling. When Israel, Egypt and every nation in the Middle East need as many friends as possible, telling only one side of the story doesn't help anybody.

An awful episode that has fallen into history:



THE TIMES FRAMES A MASSACRE

By Nabeel Abraham

As soon as Ami Popper turned himself in to the police, Israeli authorities swung into action, framing the massacre of seven Palestinian workers at Rishon le Zion as the work of a lone, deranged person. The New York Times was only too ready to play along. Quoting police sources, the paper reported the next morning that “the first thing [the] youth said when arrested was that he did it because of an ‘unrequited love affair.’ ” The paper added, “the man also said he had been sexually assaulted by an Arab when he was 13 years old, and that for years he had been seeking revenge” (Rick Black, “Lone Israeli Slays 7 Palestinians; 7 More Arabs Die as Riots Erupt,” May 21, 1990, p. A1).

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The Israeli Press

Hours after the early morning massacre, Israeli reporter Yigal Sarna visited the killing field, universally known as the “slave market,” except to the New York Times, where this revealing fact was suppressed. Sarna witnessed an Israeli man get out of his car and jubilantly dance on the blood-stained ground, asking rhetorically, “Why only seven?” (“On the Pool of Blood,” Yediot Ahronot, May 21). The question was a common one in Israel, as Sarna and other Israeli reporters discovered.

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Experts like Dr. Dvora Carmiel of the Institute for the Study of States of Stress at Haifa University were consulted. Carmiel told Sarna:

The massacre has received broad support and expresses the social norms current in the murderer’s environment… In America a man takes a gun and opens fire in a supermarket or from a tower at passers-by. Here the targets are all marked. Popper chose to kill Arabs and not members of his family, a girlfriend who let him down, or himself.

On the Times Op-Ed page, Uriel Savir, Israel’s Consul General in New York, assured readers that “Israel’s soul was numbed by the brutal attack in Rishon le Zion…. This revolting murder sent shock waves throughout the country, bringing an outpouring of sympathy” (“An Arab Choir of Hate,” June 1, p. A29). Israeli journalists drew different conclusions about the views of their countrymen. Visiting four Tel Aviv schools in the wake of the massacre, reporter Ya’el Fishbain found students mostly supportive of Popper, with a minority opposed (Davar, May 25). Similarly, Aviramah Golan visited a Jerusalem kindergarten the day after the massacre and listened in horror as “some of the more outspoken children said that it was a shame [Popper] hadn’t killed more Arabs and that in general they should all be thrown into the sea” (Davar Supplement, May 25). On the positive side, many Israelis volunteered blood and other forms of assistance. The Palestinian weekly Al-Fajr (May 28) reported several Arab-Jewish demonstrations occurred in several cities. The Times mentioned one (May 22).

Unlike the Times, Israeli writers had no qualms about linking the massacre to the country’s political climate. SylvieKeshet pointed out that while Israeli leaders condemned the murders, “Jewish murders receive pardons and privileges.” Imprisoned members of the Jewish terrorist underground were allowed to attend seaside picnics. A Jewish woman who murdered an Arab taxi driver chosen at random received a presidential pardon because of poor health. “Meanwhile Arab ‘terrorists’ whose health is deteriorating continue to rot in prison,” Keshet observed (Yediot Ahronot, May 25).

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The people on ALL sides want peace. If the people don't know that, it's hard to imagine.

Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
4. Credibility is a hard thing to get back when you lose it.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 06:29 PM
Sep 2013

Personally I believe the Times lost their credibility years ago, but the actions of omitting that story certainly didn't help.

Thanks for the thread, Octafish.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. And that the Judith Miller and a few other scandals Rocked Their Creds...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 08:10 PM
Sep 2013

Makes it even more incredible that they still keep ignoring stories of "Great Public Interest" to their Readers...to keep spouting disinfo or denial of newsworthy reporting that might go against what they want to spew to their Wall Street Buddies!

Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
11. Precisely, KoKo, one would think after those episodes, they would wake the hell up
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 08:34 PM
Sep 2013

and smell the coffee.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Hard work keeping the plutocracy in place sometimes.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 08:42 PM
Sep 2013

Gotta make sure there are no ripples that could rise up to become huge waves.

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