Creepy Obamacare ad hits college campuses

[Drale]

There will be girls. There will be beer. There will be Cornhole. And someone will be dressed in the creepiest Uncle Sam costume you’ve ever seen.

Welcome to the strange new front in the war over Obamacare.
As the Republican dream of repealing President Barack Obama’s health care law in Congress crumbles, the fight over the law’s future shifts from Washington to college campuses, where the new challenge for Obamacare proponents lies in convincing young people to sign up for coverage mandated by the law.

The period to enroll in health insurance exchanges established under the 2010 law begins Oct. 1, which will mark the start of a race to urge Americans to participate. The health exchanges rely heavily on young, healthy Americans who will subsidize the sick and elderly within the pools. Without the healthy, the exchanges could be unsustainable. The Obama administration is devoting millions of public dollars to promote the exchanges, but many conservative groups are actively working to convince people not to join.

That’s where Creepy Uncle Sam comes in.

http://news.yahoo.com/obamacare-battle-moves-to-college-campuses-200027191.html

[Skinner]

1. Right-wingers are complaining about government at the OB-GYN?

Fucking clueless hypocrites.

[surrealAmerican]

2. Wouldn't most of the young people on college campuses ...

... be covered under their parent's insurance, and thus not be getting insurance through the exchanges?

I doubt this campaign will convince many educated people that paying to avoid having insurance is in some way better than paying for insurance anyway. They need to find a more ignorant audience for this crap.

[Demo_Chris]

3. Our party should be the one trying to repeal this thing...

Seriously, this is ludicrous. I can think of no better way to drive these people to the GOP.

[Drale]

5. Really, how is it ludicrous?

I assume you have examples? Is the ACA perfect? No but is it much much much better than what we had before? Hell Yes!

[Demo_Chris]

8. Better for who?

Obviously it is better for insurance companies, they now have every citizen as a federally guaranteed customer. And it's better for their shareholders, so there's that. It's better for the affluent with their diamond coverage, they now have millions contributing to help hold their costs down.

But better for the college student? Better for the family making a combined 35k a year, the family with no current coverage being forced to come up with a few hundred extra a month for crappy coverage that does nothing for them? Hardly.

You think a recent college grad, earning 25k a year, facing a mountain of debt is going to THANK us for saddling him with another fucking bill? Pay this or pay a fine!

And as for me, my family is looking at at least a 350 a month payment for high deductible insurance that covers nothing. If I get sick, I still cannot get surgery because I can't afford the co pay or deductible. So I am out the money each month and nothing for it. Not that I even have that 350 to begin with. I'd rather have water and electricity than insurance that does nothing. My choirs, thanks to Obamacare, is to go bankrupt, or break the Federal LAW mandating that I buy insurance.

My party is FINING me for being poor.

[CANDO]

11. We need Medicare Part E (Everyone)

But you would still be paying for that one way or another. The difference being that we'd actually get something in return and no goddamned profiteering parasitic organism would be in the middle.

[Drale]

12. Yes we do but until then the America Cares Act is a step in the right direction ./nt

[Drale]

14. If your family is living on 35k a year the amount of your premiums would be capped at 4-6% of your

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income which would be 116-175 dollars a month for a family of four. Yes there's still co-pays but having health insurance will help you too head any problems off before they need surgery or become major problems. College students are either covered by their parents health insurance or they have a campus plan which are usually pretty comprehensive. "they now have millions contributing to help hold their costs down." That's how a public option would work as well, you pool everyone together so that the cost of major stuff is mitigated across the board rather than on one person. The only difference is that our health care is still run by for profit companies but "Obamacare" or the America Cares Act forces those companies to spend 80% of money earned on health care for their costumers and it also stops them from dropping people because they get sick or not insuring them in the first place because they have a "pre-existing" condition. We still need and are headed for a public option but for now the ACA is all we got and its changing things for the better. But judging by your Anarchist symbol you use as your avatar, I'm guessing your against anything the government does so none of this is going to help change your mind about anything.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/05/obamacare-premiums_n_3869782.html
http://www.familiesusa.org/resources/tools-for-advocates/guides/federal-poverty-guidelines.html

EDIT: I also forgot to mention that if you make under a certain amount, and I'm sure 35k for a family falls in that range, you'll get tax credits to help pay for the insurance

[Demo_Chris]

16. According to the linkI checked today...

My premiums would be 344 a month assuming such a plan were available in my area. Further, this is assumed to be a low rent silver plan with a stratospheric deductible and co-pay. So again, who exactly is this Obamacare crap better for? Certainly not me -- for MY family it's just one more tax, a tax for the crime of being poor.

See, I cannot afford 344 a month. I probably cannot afford 344 a year. But I will have to, because thanks to my party if I don't buy that insurance I will be breaking the fucking LAW and subject to a fine of a hundred per person per year -- and if I don't pay THAT I'll go to prison.

So again, who's t better for other than the wealthy who will see their rates go down and the insurance company owners and investors enjoying guaranteed customers and taxpayer subsidized profits.

[Drale]

17. Well since your the only person who matters in the whole damn world

it sucks for you, the ACA has helped lots and lots of people including me and is going to save lives. "Your Party" is trying to help people and just because you don't think its helping you its a terrible thing? Sounds very much like a selfish Tea Party position or that your buying into the MSM point of view on "Obamacare". If you can truly not afford it, with by the way you write, I think you just don't want to because its the government telling you what to do, then you can apply for a wavier and you should get it, unless, as I said before, you can afford it and your just bitching about being forced to protect your families health by the government, you won't get the waiver.

[Demo_Chris]

18. I could level the same accusation at YOU

Apparently you are totally cool with the fact that my family -- and millions of others just like me -- are facing financial devastation so long as you come out ahead of the game. I already told you what it would cost my family at a MINIMUM. It would cost me at LEAST 344 a month (which I do not even come close to having) and in exchange I get 'coverage' I cannot use (can't afford the co pays) and the satisfaction of reading comments from people like you calling me selfish. Obviously money like that is chump change to you, but to me it's a freaking fortune.

So you tell me, what should my family sacrifice to make your life a little better? Should we make due without electricity? Water? Should I live in my car? Just tell me what you want me to give up so can get a little more ahead at my family's expense.

But don't tell me I am selfish. You're the one getting ahead, I'm the poor guy on the bottom getting fucked over to make that possible.

[CANDO]

19. Just for clarity

What is your situation? Employed? Part/full time? None offered through your employer? Why not? I am of the opinion we need to all be covered one way or another, and every employer needs to participate regardless of size. I get coverage through employment that costs me $98 per week/nearly $400 per month. And that's not the cheapest, high deductible plan. I choose to pay extra for the lowest deductible plan offered. And if people can't afford it, this ACA makes available assistance through the state medicaid programs, providing your state participates. And furthermore, if people truly can't afford health insurance, then look within your household expenses and see what can be cut or done without. A major example would be a smartphone instead of a damned phone. I worked with a person recently who asked me for money to get to the next payday, yet he seemed to not get it that perhaps he couldn't really afford his smartphone if he had to ask for cash loans from his co-workers. Not saying this is you, but people really know how to blow money on non-essentials and then say they can't afford truly essential things.

[Demo_Chris]

20. Poverty does not equate to irresponsibility. If Obamacare were a great deal...

For everyone there would be no need for any mandate. Everyone would line up for it. But of course it isn't. It's a great deal for the insurance companies and their owners, it's fantastic for drug companies and healthcare providers, it's awesome for the affluent, and it's even better for those who are affluent but were denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions.

But all that 'goodness' comes with a price, and that bill is being handed (as usual) to those who are barely scraping by as is -- the young and those in and near poverty. They are being forced -- not invited or asked -- to purchase worthless policies with money they don't have. Again, if it were a good deal no one would need to force them. But as it is, they are being forced to pay for a Big Mac, they're being given nothing more than the wrapper, and the money is being used to provide extra caviar and lobster to the top 10%.

[CANDO]

21. Well, you didn't clarify anything.

So I'm guessing you are employed but with no health insurance. What happens if you get sick? You're going to go to the ER. The hospital will treat you, and everyone else picks up the tab. And at that point, are you ok with everyone else paying for your care? Do you or will you feel responsible for the costs paid by others? I'm not beating up on you. Please don't take it that way. But do you get the point that if we all want coverage, we all have to buy into the system? I'm not happy with this thing staying in private, for profit hands. Our lives, as far as the realm of health and well being, should never be subject to the whims of profiteering corporations. This is why we must go to a Medicare for all system. Paid for by all of us.

[Demo_Chris]

22. No, I am not okay with someone else getting the tab...

But then I can try to make payments, and the hospital wont do more than the bare minimum regardless. From my own perspective I would rather we had passed nothing than passing what we did. Under the current system I am screwed if I get sick. Under Obamacare I am completely screwed immediately. At he least I will be forced to come up with an extra Obamacare Poverty Fine every year.

[Grammy23]

4. And they have changed their rhetoric just a bit to say----

Not just that it WILL fail but that it has already failed. Listen to Boner (who has flipped over to the Kill Obamacare league) refer to the FAILED Obamacare. As if the program has already rolled out 100 % and been implemented and has failed to live up to its promise.

It makes me sick (no pun intended) the lengths they are willing to go to kill the Affordable Health Care Act. And it will NEVER be repealed by Congress and they know it. But they can make it fail once it is in place by discouraging the young people it needs in order to be successful. It just boggles my mind that they are willing to convince them to put their own financial future and health at risk by not signing up for health insurance.

The inmates are running the asylum as far as I am concerned. I would love to see Obama and the Democrats go up against these A$$Holes with their own campaign to call out the Republicans and Tea Party people for the lies they are spreading. I see tiny signs that President Obama is willing to speak up about it, but no sign that they are going to meet them with the same vigor.

[Demo_Chris]

9. They can't meet them with the same vigor, it'd s BAD law

If the GOP passed this garbage you would never say give it a chance, and you damn sure would waste time desperately trying to spin it into something delicious.

[sinkingfeeling]

6. Totally stupid.

[Cryptoad]

7. Ummmmm ,,,,,

what should I do?????

get some Obama Care,,,

or pay a fine that is more than what Obama Care will cost me?


Ummmmmmm,,,,,



reckon we could get another vote to repeal soon?


geeez!

[former9thward]

10. Most college students are covered by campus health policies.

And some are covered by parent's policies also. College students will be the group least likely to sign up, ads or no ads.

[lumberjack_jeff]

13. Stupid targeting

College age guys are indifferent to health care and college age women already know who is shutting down all the women's health clinics.

Also, many if not most of them are already covered by their parent's insurance... because of Obamacare.

The healthy young working folks are the ones who are going to be the important demographic?

I find it surprising that there is so much emphasis on people who:
a) don't have insurance
b) have jobs that pay well enough that they are ineligible for a subsidy
c) are healthy
d) are young, but not covered by their parents insurance

That slice of the population can't be more than 10-20 million people or so, and very few of them are currently in college.

[SidDithers]

15. You should fix your title. It's a creepy anti-Obamacare ad...

not a creepy Obamacare ad.

Sid

[Archae]

23. Rachel Maddow pointed out this group...

Comes from the Koch Brothers machine.

Figures.