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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:00 AM Sep 2013

People are going to die of cancer no matter what. Let's stop trying to cure it.

Besides, it's people's own right if they want to expose themselves or other people to carcinogens, so who are we to trample on their rights?

And let's not forget, while some people who do have cancer, there are plenty of other people who don't have cancer and may never get cancer? Why are we so obsessed about something that may never actually affect millions of people? Just to appease the people who do have cancer?

Listen, it's obvious that nothing we've done so far has cured cancer. Cancer's just going to happen, no matter what. Let's just get over this whole "cure cancer" thing before it just makes us all look silly and overbearing.



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People are going to die of cancer no matter what. Let's stop trying to cure it. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 OP
Trying to cure cancer will cost us elections! Robb Sep 2013 #1
Perfect! Scuba Sep 2013 #3
Not to mention the money that has been spent unwisely over the years funding all kinds of research kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #36
Trying to cure cancer is a great money maker for so many. Those "Walks for the Cure" for instance monmouth3 Sep 2013 #2
Hoping the snark or sarcasm smilee are missing here. woodsprite Sep 2013 #4
Yes, it is purely satire. It's not actually about cancer. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #6
Then what the hell is it about? I wish all these inside joke threads would stop and Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #17
Post 13. Thanks. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #19
Have a care with your analogies. My father died from his cancer #4 and #5 ganging up on him. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #24
VERY happy to read that. MoonRiver Sep 2013 #32
Everyone will die from Cancer, Downwinder Sep 2013 #5
That is kinda like Cryptoad Sep 2013 #9
It would be good if cancer deaths fell as much as gun deaths did. hack89 Sep 2013 #7
Last time I looked Cryptoad Sep 2013 #8
If cancer is worth curing, the free-market will cure it. Period. cheapdate Sep 2013 #10
So you're proposing everyone undergo pre-emptive chemo whether they have cancer or not? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #11
See, I knew someone would miss the analogy. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #13
Perhaps you should address the banners in your thread. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #20
Banners? Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #25
Proud to kick and rec an insightful post. nt IdaBriggs Sep 2013 #12
These radical anti-cancer extremists are totally out of control Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #14
Legalize pot. Problem solved. Downwinder Sep 2013 #15
You win both sides of the argument. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #22
so glad I finished my coffee before reading this. niyad Sep 2013 #16
Don't forget, their right to cancer is guaranteed by the Constitution... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #18
Well, at the least the government guarantees the right to possess hexavalent chromium. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #23
Besides we all know that a hard dick and long rockstar hair Rex Sep 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Sep 2013 #26
The solution, of course, is privatization. Corporations are people; they'll cure it. nolabear Sep 2013 #27
I think it's the latter, and they're working hard to cure people! lastlib Sep 2013 #29
I say forget about curing anything! It's a money waster. Also, let the poor starve and make sure Lint Head Sep 2013 #28
historical cancer stats 90-percent Sep 2013 #30
Oh, 90-percent, Sissyk Sep 2013 #56
Cancer is coming to the forefront because other diseases are being eliminated, sarge43 Sep 2013 #63
Joke or moron? dangin Sep 2013 #31
really? Sanddog42 Sep 2013 #43
What's this about? Been away from DU, so am confused. dmr Sep 2013 #33
gee you in es. (I think) n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #40
If you want to stop cancer do you blame the sidewalk people walk on The Straight Story Sep 2013 #34
Sidewalks cause cancer? Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #50
Have you not been reading your own thread? Sissyk Sep 2013 #58
The point wasn't to be cute and frivilous. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #62
It was quite something to read your OP and then find out you think it's all a lark. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #64
Again, the point of the post wasn't to be funny. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #65
Besides, we're making trillions off cancer drugs! KamaAina Sep 2013 #35
WE have a WINNER!!!! nt kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #37
Thanks for proving that many people are hypocrites Renew Deal Sep 2013 #38
I'm actually glad there were a few people that were offended. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #46
We spend trillions to help people live longer so they can pay obscene money for medical care. kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #39
A cure of cancer would be fantastic, furious Sep 2013 #41
when someone dies from cancer is no time to talk about cancer... KG Sep 2013 #42
We need new laws to regulate cancer pintobean Sep 2013 #44
Post 13. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #47
My mistake. pintobean Sep 2013 #49
Are we still trying to find cures? KansDem Sep 2013 #45
Really who needs to spend money on health insurance..... Historic NY Sep 2013 #48
Bad Satire, No good Humor dem in texas Sep 2013 #51
People do take cancer seriously. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #52
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #53
Post 13. Welcome to DU. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #54
You Are, Sir, A Much Kinder Man Than Me.... The Magistrate Sep 2013 #55
Well, clearly my post inspired his screen name. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #57
Fair Enough, Mr. Mayor The Magistrate Sep 2013 #59
Shiiiiiiiiit. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #60
All Five Syllables, Sir --- Good For You The Magistrate Sep 2013 #61
that's just dumb Rider3 Sep 2013 #66
I think you missed the point... SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #67

Robb

(39,665 posts)
1. Trying to cure cancer will cost us elections!
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:02 AM
Sep 2013

And we need the help of pro-cancer Americans if we want to cure cancer!!!!

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
36. Not to mention the money that has been spent unwisely over the years funding all kinds of research
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:49 PM
Sep 2013

that ultimately has nothing to do with a cancer cure but is made to seem so.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
2. Trying to cure cancer is a great money maker for so many. Those "Walks for the Cure" for instance
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:07 AM
Sep 2013

bring in millions..

woodsprite

(11,904 posts)
4. Hoping the snark or sarcasm smilee are missing here.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:19 AM
Sep 2013

Just having a friend who came through successful early detected lung cancer surgery this week, and myself having been through endometrial cancer surgery/treatment, I'm not typing what I'm thinking right now because I have too much invested in DU to jeopardize my membership.

Just saying.

Signed
Cancer survivor of 7 yrs (and counting)
Daughter of 11 yr cancer survivor

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
6. Yes, it is purely satire. It's not actually about cancer.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:32 AM
Sep 2013

Good Lord, I'd be an animal if I actually literally believed that.

Very happy to hear about your and your mother's stories, and thoughts and prayers go out to your friend.



Best of luck to you.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
17. Then what the hell is it about? I wish all these inside joke threads would stop and
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:56 AM
Sep 2013

What the heck is the Original Post referring to if it is not cancer?

There are so many of these threads cluttering up the forums that are obvious jokes to those who read all the threads in GD and other forums but not to those of us who read only a few a day.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
24. Have a care with your analogies. My father died from his cancer #4 and #5 ganging up on him.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:04 PM
Sep 2013

He defeated 1, 2, and 3 in sequence.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
9. That is kinda like
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:41 AM
Sep 2013

"Everybody going to die....so do it quickly so you don't cost the living any more money! "

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
8. Last time I looked
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:39 AM
Sep 2013

you are free to have cancer if you want to.,,,,, and the same goes for treatment of the same......

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
11. So you're proposing everyone undergo pre-emptive chemo whether they have cancer or not?
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:42 AM
Sep 2013

Sounds invasive, expensive, deadly and dumb.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
13. See, I knew someone would miss the analogy.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:45 AM
Sep 2013

The cancer is not the guns. The cancer is the gun violence, such as these mass shooting incidents.

Guns themselves would be--I don't know--hexavalent chromium.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
14. These radical anti-cancer extremists are totally out of control
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:51 AM
Sep 2013

next thing they'll want is the billionaires to cut their profits be removing known carcinogens from our food supply

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
18. Don't forget, their right to cancer is guaranteed by the Constitution...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:56 AM
Sep 2013

Pursuit of happiness, right? If cance makes them happy, why should we place limits on their cancer-getting rights? KNR

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
23. Well, at the least the government guarantees the right to possess hexavalent chromium.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:03 PM
Sep 2013

Remember folks, hexavalent chromium doesn't kill people. People kill people!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Besides we all know that a hard dick and long rockstar hair
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:01 PM
Sep 2013

is faaaaaarrrr more important in this society than cancer. Men all over America suffer from male pattern baldness and not being able to have an erection hard enough to drive nails into walls! LORD KNOWS we need to spend trillions of dollars to make me...er them feel better!

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

nolabear

(41,932 posts)
27. The solution, of course, is privatization. Corporations are people; they'll cure it.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:14 PM
Sep 2013

Oh wait, or is it Corporations are cancer? I can never keep that straight.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
28. I say forget about curing anything! It's a money waster. Also, let the poor starve and make sure
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:19 PM
Sep 2013

the rich, especially celebrities, make more money than is humanly possible. Food Stamps? Baw ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.. ha .. ha!

Survival of the fittest! Ayn Rand forever!!!!

90-percent

(6,828 posts)
30. historical cancer stats
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:27 PM
Sep 2013

sorry this is from memory, but,

in 1900, about 1 out of 20 caught cancer in their lifetimes.

in 2013, that figure is currently 1 in 3.

we are all going to die from cancer.

And I got skin in the game. MY wife of 23 years is currently receiving home hospice care for her horrible cancer and I'm just sad all the time.

-90% Jimmy

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
56. Oh, 90-percent,
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:09 PM
Sep 2013

I am so sorry! You made me cry. You are both in my thoughts, and I hope she passes peacefully.

I lost my younger brother to kidney cancer. Hospice is one of the greatest orgs out there. I hope they are treating you and your wife the way we were treated.

And you, Hang in There!

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
63. Cancer is coming to the forefront because other diseases are being eliminated,
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:35 PM
Sep 2013

prevented or controlled.

In 1900 only one person in 20 died of cancer because the other 19 died of infectious diseases, TB, heart disease or accidents.

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/06/25/historical-changes-in-causes-of-death

http://www.livescience.com/21213-leading-causes-of-death-in-the-u-s-since-1900-infographic.html

Nowadays very few of us don't have skin in the game. Each of us probably know someone who has been afflicted. I've had it; my mother died of it as did a good friend a few months ago and my husband may have it - waiting on the tests.

May you and your wife stand in the light.

dangin

(148 posts)
31. Joke or moron?
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:28 PM
Sep 2013

I don't get it.

Tommy what is your age? that is the percent chance that you have prostate cancer right now.

20% of 20 year olds, 50% of 50 year olds, 80% of 80 year olds. Most of us die with prostate cancer not from it. It grows very slowly. (autopsies verify these percentages, particularly for the older ages)

one third of us will be treated for cancer in our life times. Nearly all of us will "have" cancer and have it defeated by our immune system with out ever knowing it. (this is thought to be quite common among oncologists).

Finally I'm sitting less than three miles from the university that has developed six of the 20 newest cancer treatments. New treatments are being developed constantly, and the lives of cancer patients and the cures for cancer patients have increased considerably.

This is a douchy OP.

dmr

(28,344 posts)
33. What's this about? Been away from DU, so am confused.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:40 PM
Sep 2013

Looks like the idiots are at it again.

I hope someone responds. I'll be back later to check in, as I'm having an infusion this afternoon for my Stage IV breast cancer - and the drugs are kicking its ass! So fuck the idiots!

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
34. If you want to stop cancer do you blame the sidewalk people walk on
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:45 PM
Sep 2013

And if 99.2% of the people walking on it don't have cancer would you focus all of your time and effort on that sidewalk?

Or would you focus your efforts on the very few to find out what caused it for them and not others?

Some would want to ban that sidewalk and let no one walk down it, or make it narrower, or to feel better plant some flowers next to it.

Smart researchers would be looking at the few and what caused them to get it instead of adding in all the people who didn't do it and saying 'well, they will get cancer any day now because they walk on the same side walk'.

But others see that as too much work "Just get rid of that sidewalk, problem solved!"

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
58. Have you not been reading your own thread?
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:12 PM
Sep 2013

All the members here that are currently going through different stages of cancer? And, their families?

If you want to talk about guns, can you not leave the members that this hurt out of the discussion? Most of them don't talk in the gun threads anyway.

You should delete it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
64. It was quite something to read your OP and then find out you think it's all a lark.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:53 PM
Sep 2013

Read the cancer in your thread and then think twice about the cuteness of your frivolous OP.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
65. Again, the point of the post wasn't to be funny.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:01 PM
Sep 2013

If I wanted to post something funny, I would have done it in the Lounge.

I don't think you understand.

One need not be literal to make a point.

Renew Deal

(81,845 posts)
38. Thanks for proving that many people are hypocrites
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:52 PM
Sep 2013

It is sorely needed. If you are offended about this post/thread, then it's about you.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
46. I'm actually glad there were a few people that were offended.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:21 PM
Sep 2013

It pretty much brings home my actual, unspoken point of the post.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
39. We spend trillions to help people live longer so they can pay obscene money for medical care.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:58 PM
Sep 2013

This is what keeps the pharms and medical communities in business. Way too much spent on cures and way to little on helping improve the quality of life for those already here. Preventative care gets very little funding while chasing the cures for aliments that might be prevented by better and more accessible health care and preventive medicine. Follow the money again....there is a lot of history out there about bio-medical research and the charlatans involved. It's what keeps the elite schools in business, charging the highest fees for education, paying the highest salaries, and selectively keeping out those of the lower class.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
44. We need new laws to regulate cancer
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:10 PM
Sep 2013

or just outright ban it. Everyone should contact their representatives this week and come back to this thread to report how that goes.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
49. My mistake.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:39 PM
Sep 2013

I mistook you for one of the many gun control advocates who can't distinguish the difference.

I apologize.

dem in texas

(2,673 posts)
51. Bad Satire, No good Humor
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:55 PM
Sep 2013

If this is satire, which I think it is, it is not well written or funny. If you are trying to show the attitude of the guns nuts, there could find a better way. People take cancer seriously and don't think it is subject for satire.

I am all for good satire, just try again.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
52. People do take cancer seriously.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:03 PM
Sep 2013

They should take cancer seriously.

Bingo.

The thing about satire, as opposed to general comedy, is that it's not supposed to be laugh out loud until you cry funny.

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
57. Well, clearly my post inspired his screen name.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:10 PM
Sep 2013

(Which I happen to think is a very good sentiment, BTW)

So I like to think of him as my kid, of sorts.

Rider3

(919 posts)
66. that's just dumb
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 04:54 PM
Sep 2013

There's probably a cure already out there, but Big Pharama won't allow it through. Besides, why do you want to stop progression? If you don't want to take advantage of the medicine, then don't. But, don't deprive others of their choice. Hmm.... Choice. Good thing to have.

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