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1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:46 PM Sep 2013

I'm just frothing with anger - let me get this off my chest

My wife and I have a friend, once her best friend, who is a fucking idiot. But idiot or not both of us still love her to death and can't stand to see the sort of treatment she is getting from her family.

The lady in question is younger than we are, somewhere in her late 50's or early 60's. She is married with three grown children. She is also a long-time alcoholic and heavy user of illicit drugs. The alcohol has been with her since childhood, the drug use can mostly be attributed to a bad eye infection she fell victim to years ago; it was the pain killers she was proscribed that got her on the path to taking any and all similar medications she has been able to get her hands on. There hasn't been a day in the last 20 years during which she was not inebriated.

Her husband is worthless. Her old child, the son, is scary crazy; a violent bastard (not a slur, a fact) who even as a child frightened full grown men. She also has two worthless daughters, possibly the laziest young women I have ever known. The youngest of the two, who still lives at home, is about 20 and weighs three times as much as I do and won't get up to make her own food - mama's got to do it for her.

Colleen, that is the ladies' name, has cancer. Mostly its in her throat but it has spread to everywhere. Were it not for her younger sister, a person I would not trust as far as I could throw my pickup truck, she would be dead today. Despite her husband's insistence that there is nothing wrong with her the sister hauled her to a local hospital three weeks ago. She did that after going by the house and finding her emaciated, laying in a bed often soiled, dehydrated, and unable to speak or eat. At this moment she is back in that same hospital receiving chemo and radiation treatments. She's been in there for three days now, my wife has been with her most of that time.

And where is the husband? He's at home fiddle-fucking around with his gadgets. Where are the two daughters (both of whom live within 5 miles of the hospital she is in)? Who the fuck knows. And where is the son? Haven't seen that fuckwad anywhere around either.

Despite her failings this is not a mean woman, not in any way imaginable. She was a caring and devoted mother. She would never lie to you, never cheat you, never steal a damned thing from you. She is just a very decent person with a lot of problems and not one god damned bit of support from her own family.

I'm so pissed off about this that I'm dam near foaming at the mouth. What in all of creation is wrong with people.



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1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
4. The two are not mutually exclusive
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:56 PM
Sep 2013

I call her a fucking idiot because she is unable to discern fact from fiction, to come to grips with the present, to make judgements concerning her own health and well being.

But those things do not make her antisocial. She cares for people around her to an extent that it is self destructive and there is not one single mean bone in her body.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. I love that you do NOT see people in a simplistic manner,
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:39 PM
Sep 2013

altho I would suggest the reasons you give for her being an idiot can easily be attributed to her daily inebriation.
In plain English, practicing addicts and alcoholics don't live a life that makes "sense" to others.
They can be very nice people in many respects, but in other ways pretty self destructive.

JanMichael

(24,885 posts)
8. Because the poster is angry
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:17 PM
Sep 2013

It's a rant. I use the word "fucking" often when I am getting something off my chest. I understood every word of the post--

Response to JanMichael (Reply #8)

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. You are dealing with a very dysfunctional
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:51 PM
Sep 2013

Situation racked in dependency and co dependency.

Try to talk to social workers. They might be able to help, and you might add to this abuse.

Oh and hugs, you are a good man

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
3. The selfishness that is a given in a situation where both parents are ill-equipped
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:52 PM
Sep 2013

is what's wrong. They don't see that their behaviour is wrong.

sinkingfeeling

(51,445 posts)
6. Dysfunctional families are extremely common any more. I'm sorry your
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:46 PM
Sep 2013

friend is so ill. If she had sought treatment earlier, the chemo/radiation of the throat cancer might have saved her life. It did mine.

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
7. what you describe to me is a situation of extreme sorrow
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:09 PM
Sep 2013

who knows how the family got to this point. To me it is always a matter or genetics, demographics, personal responsibility and external forces not in their control. I hope you're trying to be helpful.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
9. Karma. You might not like it, but when someone spends 20 years inebriated / altered
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:32 PM
Sep 2013

to the point where they can't take care of themselves, odds are good they aren't really taking care of anyone else. That "lazy" 20 year old? Well, while she was being neglected because of mom's addictions (which did indeed affect her ability to discern the reality that was affecting her children's physical, mental and emotional health), she grew a burning anger that is now coming out as "you owe me for destroying my life / childhood so make me a sandwich while I try to cope with the hell that I am living in thanks to your poor choices." Don't even get me started on the son she didn't protect, who "frightened full grown men" - barring something diagnosable, that isn't normal behavior for children who aren't trying to survive hell.



Your wife's friend does not sound like a good parent or spouse. She has (per your descriptions) destroyed the lives of her children instead of helping them to live good, healthy lives with possibilities of bettering themselves / valuing making positive contributions to society. You see the nice her. They've seen the real her. She has passed her problems on to her family (instead of taking steps to make life better for them and herself).

I am sorry she is ill, but the chickens have come home to roost. They will probably cry when she is gone, but honestly, they will probably be crying for the "might have beens" that weren't.

This is a very sad story.

I know you want everyone to get along now that she is sick, but honestly if you are being honest in your assessment, I have never heard of a "long-time alcoholic and heavy user of illicit drugs" being a "caring and devoted mother."

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