Man who killed 2 Wis. cops in 1975 could go free

[Tx4obama]

Man who killed 2 Wis. cops in 1975 could go free

WAUKESHA, Wis. — A Wisconsin man who killed two police officers in 1975 is on the verge of being released after 38 years in a mental health institution.

Alan Randall was 16 when he was committed for gunning down the Waukesha County officers. Now 55, he'll have to adjust to being on his own for the first time in his life.

A jury recommended Randall's release this spring. A judge was expected to sign off on the arrangement Friday.

Randall was supposed to be freed last month, but state officials weren't able to find housing for him outside of Waukesha County. The widow and sister of one slain officer both still live there, and they didn't want Randall to be allowed back.

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Full post here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130920/us-officers-slain-release/

[Tx4obama]

1. Additional details in article on link below

Wis. killer might have been better off in prison

Here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130920/us-officers-slain-release/?utm_hp_ref=homepage&ir=homepage

[gopiscrap]

2. screw the widow and sister....it's been many years

he's paid his debt...part of the problem is how we treat criminals coming out of their restrictive enviornments...We need to give them a fresh start.

[furious]

3. Screw the widow and sister?

I hope you never experience the pain and agony of what they went through.

[gopiscrap]

5. I have and there needs to be a forgiveness factor in a society that isn't present

he paid his debt

[furious]

7. He has paid his debt,

but why the antagonism towards these 2 women, who lost a loved one to this man?

[gopiscrap]

8. Because I feel that the pendelum has swung the other way

victims have too much say in what happens to the perpetrators. Yes, I feel sorrow for them, as I am a victim (family member slain) but I know myself, I couldn't be impartial. This has to do with community placement and that should be done by professions and not by personal reaction.

[furious]

11. My sympathies for your loss.

[gopiscrap]

12. BTW welcome to DU

and thank you.

[Wait Wut]

14. Do you think forgiveness factor...

...has something to do with screwing his sister? I'm generally (not always) a 'live and let live' person, but telling the families of a victim that they can 'get screwed' is gross.

You say, "I have". Has someone told you that you should 'get over it and get screwed'? I sure as hell hope not. Honestly, I wouldn't wish that comment on anyone.

It's sad that you seem to have more sympathy for the killer than the victim's family.

[Throd]

4. Classy act you got there.

[gopiscrap]

6. private undividuals (the widow and sister) should not be making

policy decisions (where to release this guy)...because of their closeness to the situation they can't be impartial.

[furious]

9. That makes no sense,

are you saying that victims of crime have no say? How about a child molester that's released? Should the victim have no say on where they may live? Would you be ok with a pedo living on the same street as the victim?

[gopiscrap]

10. a pedo who is not adjudged to be cured should not be released

[furious]

13. That's not what I asked.

Would you approve of a released pedo living on the same street as the victim?

[HangOnKids]

15. Jesus are you always this bossy? The poster made his pont back off.

Here 1 fucking day and acting like you own the joint.

[furious]

16. And you are.............?

[pintobean]

17. There's a long list.

[HangOnKids]

18. Proving my point

keep going this will be real fun!

[furious]

19. Thanks for the invitation,

but I'll politely decline your generous offer.

[Wait Wut]

20. It's a valid question...

...I'd like to hear the answer, as well.

I've been here longer than one day, so I assume that it's okay to post my opinion.

[HangOnKids]

21. Then talk to the poster in question

And you do understand the being here 1 day was just part of my point to the other poster. Of course you do, you are real smart!

[Wait Wut]

23. Yes, I am.

Smart enough to know that every member of DU started with just one day under their belt. It's not like a checking account where you can say, "Ummmm...start the numbering at 1000 so I don't look like a noob."

[HangOnKids]

26. Of Course!

Sorry I have work to do, enjoy your day!

[pintobean]

32. Some have done that

again and again.

[Wait Wut]

33. Crap.

Proven wrong, again.

[Throd]

34. They don't have to be impartial. I believe they should have some input.

It was your whole "Screw them" opener that really raised my eyebrow. I can understand the rationale behind your argument, but "screw them" sounds like they have done something wrong. You can serve your time in prison, but that doesn't erase the emotional trauma inflicted upon the victims of the crime or the community at large.

[KamaAina]

22. DU never ceases to amaze me.

I knew this was gonna turn into a flamewar. But I thought it was gonna be about cops.

Oh well.

[furious]

25. I confess that I might be a little biased because of my profession.

My heart goes out to the families of those police officers more than the killer.

[KamaAina]

27. Fair enough.

And welcome aboard! As you can see, it can be a bumpy ride at times.

[Wait Wut]

31. The families seem very reasonable.

I can't blame them for not wanting him shopping in the same grocery stores. They aren't saying he shouldn't be released, just that they'd prefer not to have him around. One also seems willing to talk to him. I don't know if I could do that. I guess after so many years it would be easier to do.

Lost lives all the way around this story.

[alcibiades_mystery]

24. 38 years is sufficient

He was 16 for fuck's sake.

Our "prison forever" fetish is ridiculous.

[furious]

28. I agree.

I just wonder how he's going to function in society, this is a whole new world for this man.
I hope he gets the counseling he's going to need and I wish nothing but the best for him.

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. I hope there is some kind of support network

Apart from that, good luck to him.

[Sheldon Cooper]

29. If the system allows for his freedom, I suppose he should get it.

But it's hard to imagine how he'll adjust to life on the outside. Being institutionalized for 38 years, starting at age 16, will make his adjustment very difficult.