My sister prays for Obamacare to die...
This really took me aback. She believes the whole death panel myth which is her reasoning. Not only that, she hates Obama so much that she refuses to acknowledge that Obamacare can help people. It was quite stunning to read.
She calls herself a Christian, prays for Obamacare to die, and his blinded by hate.
This is what I posted on FB and she knows it was directed at her...
Ooh, death panels. That's how evil Obamacare is. Of course the repubs want to scare the crap out of people by saying that in order to save a buck that old people are going to be either euthanized or denied life-saving care. Of course, it's not true, but some won't believe anything else even if they read it. Some even think it's their Christian duty to pray that people won't get the benefit of Obamacare which means having affordable health coverage so they can go to a doctor. I don't get that at all. Why pray for people to do without or lose their insurance? Death panels. In their eyes that's what it is. Let's examine exactly what Obamacare says. For the benefit of time and my laziness I copied and pasted this from about.com
The clause in Section 1233 of the bill actually requires the Medicare program to reimburse doctors if a Medicare beneficiary asks them for consultation on advanced care, end-of-life planning considerations like how to make a living will, assign people to make health care decisions for them (durable power of attorney), and hospice care (which is actually already covered under Medicare).
The "every five years" part of the death panel rumor stems from the fact that Section 1233 of the bill requires Medicare to pay for the advanced care planning services only once every five years. Once again, the consultation would be provided and paid for by Medicare only if requested by the beneficiary.
Describing the "death panels" claims as being "rife with gross-and even cruel-distortions," the American Association of Retired People (AARP) has supported the Advanced Care Planning Consultation requirement, stating that it "would not only help people make the best decisions for themselves [on end-of-life care], but also better ensure that their wishes are followed."
I took the time to actually read the thing. Some would rather let politically motivated talking heads tell them what their opinions should be. Some have allowed their hatred of Obama to blind them to the point of only thinking the worst and there is no changing their minds. That is sad. I'm not expecting this to change anyone's mind. I do however think it speaks to the mindset of some who pray that Obamacare dies uncaring of how losing that law affects millions of Americans. They, in fact, should be praying for improvements in the law such as a public option, expanding the exchanges, and offering Medicare and Medicaid to more people. This helps our citizens and that's something everyone should want. That is all.
Anyway, that's what I said. I doubt she'll respond to it. She was angry enough that she deleted our entire conversation.
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was probably a little bit out of anger - but I would bet money that it was mostly out of shame. Which means you are getting through at least a little.
I know that probably doesn't help but I do understand sisters who have a screw loose or a thick skull. (Especially if they are older, like mine.) I just avoid politics altogether with her. It hurts too much.
This "death panel" crapola was just a little too much for some of the right-wing nut jobs. As the saying goes, even buzzards gag sometimes.
p)aying doctors to help seniors sort out their preferences for end-of-life care is consumer-directed rationing, not bureaucratic rationing."[73] (from the Wikipedia article on "Death panel")The footnotes don't survive the DU markup, but there are half a dozen of them, citing MSM sources for each assertion.
...it never seems to improve either. All these so-called Christians who don't know nor understand what their religion stands for. At this stage it can only be viewed as willful ignorance. No one can be that stupid by mistake.
First off, she's not allowed to judge others. She should know this. This is a CENTRAL THEME OF CHRISTIANITY. Forgiveness, right? You remember the guy who died for everyone's sins? Yeah that guy. Since that happened, everybody's now golden. So no one gets to point fingers since we're all damaged goods that have been redeemed. Just remind her that she will be judged the same as she judges others (Matthew 7).
And you can also remind her of Matthew 25, in particular verses 34-46. That's the ones where Jesus says he's going to send all those who failed to feed the hungry, to give drink for those who thirst, to clothe the naked, to take in the stranger, and visit the sick and imprisoned -- to get out of his sight and on into perdition with all the other old goats. Its right there in black and white.
- Being a PK has its advantages. I've always use religion's words to chastise up-righteous, wicked, and sick people. I've found that it usually shuts them up every time....
K&R
how do these people loose their minds? We think we know them.
Now my sister was an ardent democrat but this boyfriend she has is a doomsdayer type and she is slipping some...."oh maybe hes right"........no, no hes not right hes a nutjob.
She doesnt come around as much any more. I swear I should just beat the shit out of her like i did when she was a kid. I was 8 years older see....big sister.
I just dont get it.
