If Obamacare is not working fairly well in 4 or 5 years, should we consider repealing it ??

[kentuck]

And work for a single payer but everyone would be involved in the endeavor. It would be good for our economy in that it would lower the costs of healthcare and put a little more money in their pockets to spend. But shouldn't it be given a chance??

[rurallib]

1. repeal? no! change and update? yes

If you repealed what system would be in place?

[kentuck]

9. True.

So many ideas in Obamacare could not be discarded. They would have to be in the next change and update to the system. There may need to be several changes before it is gotten right. But the idea is worth it if we can do it..

[Andy823]

10. I agree

Repealing it would be a bad move and as you stated what would take it's place. Change and update to a real universal type health care plan would be the best thing to do!

[NightWatcher]

2. Something tells me if they leave it the fuck alone

We'd all be a lot better than we are right now.

[bigwillq]

3. People can't afford 4 or 5 years

if things are not working right away, then the law needs to be amended, fixed, change, improved. Stop gambling with our money and do something that will help us. (yes, I Know it will help people right away, just speaking in general terms)

[Agnosticsherbet]

4. It will be improved, not repealed.

over time by Democratic administrations. Overtime it can become a single payer system.

[Warpy]

5. No, we need to consider amending it.

Do you really want to repeal any of the good stuff we already got?

Didn't think so.

[gopiscrap]

6. yes and go for single payer universal health care

[Puzzledtraveller]

14. too bad we can't do that now

I feel ACA will take us further from single payer the longer it stays.

[gopiscrap]

19. I agree

[fadedrose]

7. Change it to single payer but to repeal the coverage, etc.....

[Bjorn Against]

8. Only if we pass single payer at the same time as we repeal

[kentuck]

11. Would single payer include everyone?

Or would there be a way to opt out??

[Bjorn Against]

12. It would include everyone

The single payer system works when everyone is in, I think there does need to be choice built into the system so people can choose their own doctors but the system includes everyone.

[truebluegreen]

13. Amend Medicare by removing the age requirement.

The structure is already there. With a mandate in place, where do you think the 99% will go?

Edited to add: health insurers will die on the vine, instead of citizens.

[Puzzledtraveller]

15. ^^this^^

[kestrel91316]

16. I support fixing its problems (yes, it has some) incrementally, always working closer and closer

to Single Payer, with THAT being the end product.

[Egalitarian Thug]

20. But it can't. The ACA is effectively a law against a single payer system.

The very best the ACA can ever accomplish would be 50 state health care systems, except of course for those states that refuse to set one up, and that only if every health insurance company goes out of business.

What is most likely to happen is that we're going to end up with 3 - 6 giant insurers that will continue to act like giant insurance companies and collude to fix prices and set care levels, the exchanges will be the dumping ground for the poor and expensively sick/disabled, and the barely known super health care system that the rich already have will be even better and remain completely inaccessible to everyone but the <1%.

A lot of people here keep saying that the ACA is going to lead to a single payer system, but other than by completely fucking everything up and collapsing, thereby forcing us to do something else by it's failure, they never explain how.

[KG]

17. the only way ACA leads to SP is if it fails.

[Brigid]

18. I view ACA, as it stands right now, as just a starting point.

As problems arise or are revealed, they need to be dealt with. And we need to find a way to stop GOP obstructionism so that ACA has a chance to get on its feet and work. I hope that eventually it will lead to single payer.