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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:32 AM Sep 2013

Wash. Times' Pruden: Unlike A Man Her Age, Hillary Clinton "Is Getting Past Her Sell-By Date"

What a fucking pig. I'm not a Clinton supporter but the sexist shit being flung at her has always pissed me off.

he Washington Times' Wesley Pruden launched a sexist attack against Hillary Clinton, claiming that while a man her age is "not particularly old," a woman in public life like Clinton "is getting past her sell-by date."

Discussing speculation that Clinton might run for president in 2016, Washington Times' editor emeritus Wesley Pruden, began his September 24 column by noting that Clinton's interview with New York magazine had revived speculation on her political plans, adding, "the lady knows how to keep everyone guessing. Only her roots are showing." Pruden concluded by saying that Clinton's age is "not particularly old for a man" but "a woman in public life is getting past her sell-by date":

Will she or won't she? Not even her hairdresser, who is only called in occasionally, knows for sure. But the lady knows how to keep everyone guessing. Only her roots are showing.

[...]

But what do they actually know? Hillary would be 69 on Inauguration Day 2017, not particularly old for a man not out of sight of his prime, but a woman in public life is getting past her sell-by date at 69. John F. Kennedy, who never had to grow old, got it right when he famously remarked that "life is unfair." A second failed race for president would not be much of a capstone for a distinguished career in politics, and life at the hearth with Bubba and the dogs would be more rewarding than indulging the parasites of another campaign.


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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/09/24/wash-times-pruden-unlike-a-man-her-age-hillary/196053

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Wash. Times' Pruden: Unlike A Man Her Age, Hillary Clinton "Is Getting Past Her Sell-By Date" (Original Post) cali Sep 2013 OP
Kinda strange, isn't it, that women out live men by more than a decade and sinkingfeeling Sep 2013 #1
Strange indeed. enough Sep 2013 #4
Who else is there? If she decides not to run, what other names come to mind? Loudly Sep 2013 #2
governor O'Malley for one cali Sep 2013 #3
He is a great politician. Agschmid Sep 2013 #11
Wow! What a great bio! Judge Catherine's too! Loudly Sep 2013 #15
I would like to see that happen. Raine1967 Sep 2013 #21
When it comes to the Presidency, 69 is old for a man too. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #5
What a PIG! Auntie Bush Sep 2013 #6
Ditto. n/t RebelOne Sep 2013 #26
Don't forget, this is Wesley Pruden. Archae Sep 2013 #7
whoa. I didn't know any of that. thanks for filling us in. cali Sep 2013 #9
That's interesting info. HappyMe Sep 2013 #13
Thanks for posting that! Was just going to post it myself. highplainsdem Sep 2013 #14
1936??? Beacool Sep 2013 #38
My observation about those who aren't enamored with Clinton... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #8
that may well be true of democrats cali Sep 2013 #12
Yes, I was referring to Democrats. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #16
Hmm. Even on DU I remember a lot of agism and sexism in the primaries. Nine Sep 2013 #18
yep - there were waay to many posts about her looks period. same with Palin. Seeing that shit bettyellen Sep 2013 #36
Excellent thoughts. I would mention if Clinton were younger they would be complaining that she monmouth3 Sep 2013 #17
Eight as senator, not six. Beacool Sep 2013 #39
mentioning the Moonie Times reminds me I have to take out the garbage rurallib Sep 2013 #10
I agree with the subject line but not with the sexist comparison. randome Sep 2013 #19
Golda Meir was 71 dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #20
The GOP have often said "do you really want to watch Hillary age". It is a meme applegrove Sep 2013 #22
Sun Myung Moon, self-proclaimed Lord of the Second Advent. Enough said. (n/t) derby378 Sep 2013 #23
Obnoxious oped, but I have seen Joe Biden completely ruled out because of age karynnj Sep 2013 #24
Joe Biden will be 75 in January 2017 cali Sep 2013 #28
Yes and we were saying it about Gramps treestar Sep 2013 #31
As if the Democratic Party needs or wants advice from the Washington Times. n/t winter is coming Sep 2013 #25
Actually, women keep their brains and muscle tone much longer. aquart Sep 2013 #27
DISGUSTING! I'm not going to vote for her in 2016...but, if Wes KoKo Sep 2013 #29
Oh come now DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #30
It depends on the person. undeterred Sep 2013 #32
You into Dynasties? Is that where you are coming from? KoKo Sep 2013 #33
That is a non age related reason. undeterred Sep 2013 #34
What the hell does that have to do with her age???? Beacool Sep 2013 #40
hey Pruden, the 19th century is calling...moran nt steve2470 Sep 2013 #35
sexist pig Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #37

sinkingfeeling

(51,448 posts)
1. Kinda strange, isn't it, that women out live men by more than a decade and
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:35 AM
Sep 2013

this tool thinks Hillary's age is bad for her, but not for a man?

enough

(13,256 posts)
4. Strange indeed.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:40 AM
Sep 2013

I'm not a particular fan of Hillary, but I can see that her enemies are going to bring me more and more over to her side as time goes on here. Not the first time that's happened.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
2. Who else is there? If she decides not to run, what other names come to mind?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:37 AM
Sep 2013

The bench does not seem very deep.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
15. Wow! What a great bio! Judge Catherine's too!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:59 AM
Sep 2013

Thanks for the injection of enthusiasm.

I needed it.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
21. I would like to see that happen.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:20 AM
Sep 2013

I'll vote for whoever our nominee is, but I would like to see O'Malley in the mix.

Archae

(46,322 posts)
7. Don't forget, this is Wesley Pruden.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:48 AM
Sep 2013

His Dad was a vcious white supremacist, and during his previous stint at the Moonie Times, he made racism the norm there.

Pruden was born in 1936 in Little Rock, Arkansas, his family having lived in the state for several generations.[1] Pruden's father, James Wesley Pruden, Sr., was a Southern Baptist minister and president of the Little Rock chapter of the White Citizens' Council,[2][3] a segregationist group that battled integration throughout the 1950s and 1960s. When President Dwight Eisenhower sent Army troops to protect nine black teenagers attempting to integrate Little Rock Central High School in 1957, Pruden Sr. reportedly told an assembled mob, "That's what we gotta fight, niggers, Communists and cops." [4][5]

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In 2003, the Southern Poverty Law Center accused Pruden of using The Washington Times to push "extremist, neo-Confederate ideas."[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Pruden

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
13. That's interesting info.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:58 AM
Sep 2013

He's an asshat and his opinion means nothing.

I think that 69 is too old for a president. It always has been a high stress job that I think has become more stressful. His politics aside, weren't people saying that McCain was too old?

highplainsdem

(48,971 posts)
14. Thanks for posting that! Was just going to post it myself.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:59 AM
Sep 2013

Pruden is despicable, a racist son of a racist, and clearly a misogynist as well.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
38. 1936???
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:57 PM
Sep 2013

So this is another Bagger (like McConnell) who is older than Hillary, but deems fit to criticize her age? Sexist much? What a creep!!!




 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. My observation about those who aren't enamored with Clinton...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:49 AM
Sep 2013

...is that it has norhing to do with age or her sex. Nor does it have to do with inexperience, since she now has 6 years as a US Senator and 4 as SoS.
The opposition lies solely with perceptions (valid concerns) that she will continue corporatist policies; ie: support TPP, Keystone XL, Wall St., the MIC, NSA spying, etc. The past 2 Democratic Presidents have been corporatists. During their admistrations, the working and middle classes continued to lose ground, just as during Republican administrations. Enough is enough. Clinton has a big sales job ahead of her if she's going to earn the votes of progressives and liberals. I'm not sure she can do it, especially since we've already gotten burned once by Obama's hard right turn, and naturally are more suspicious now.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. that may well be true of democrats
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:51 AM
Sep 2013

but it certainly isn't true of republicans.

I don't support her for those very reasons, but I sure as hell don't like the sexist attacks on her.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
16. Yes, I was referring to Democrats.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:02 AM
Sep 2013

Republicans aren't going to support her no matter what....simply because she has a D after her name. Yes, some will use sexist attacks, just as some use racist attacks on Obama. They will use religious attacks on a Dem, if the opportunity presents itself. They're just taking the low road, because they can't support their argument inre policy. When it comes down to brass tacks, in normal times (no bat-shit crazy teahadists), Obama's policies would be a GOP wet dream.

Nine

(1,741 posts)
18. Hmm. Even on DU I remember a lot of agism and sexism in the primaries.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:08 AM
Sep 2013

Maybe it wasn't the main reason some people didn't like Hillary, but there was certainly no shortage of, for example, gloating over photos where she seemed to be showing her age and comparing them to a vibrant looking Obama. Oddly enough, some of those "unflattering" photos of her were ones I really liked because she had the look of someone who had been slogging through some serious work.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
36. yep - there were waay to many posts about her looks period. same with Palin. Seeing that shit
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:24 PM
Sep 2013

here was quite disheartening.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
17. Excellent thoughts. I would mention if Clinton were younger they would be complaining that she
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:03 AM
Sep 2013

isn't mature enough, not enough experience, etc. Of course, if it were a man in the same position there would be no problem...LOL. I'm not a big Hillary fan, would definitely support her if she is nominated but I would like to see others jump in.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. I agree with the subject line but not with the sexist comparison.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:16 AM
Sep 2013

I think Hillary is past her 'sell-by' date simply because of who she is. She does not strike me as the kind of forceful, dynamic leader we need.

But to make some pointless comparison on the basis of gender is ludicrous.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
20. Golda Meir was 71
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:19 AM
Sep 2013

when she became Prime Minister of Israel, after serving other political offices
Thatcher was the longest-serving British Prime Minister of the 20th century, first elected at age 54, served for 15 years.

Reagan was 70 when he was elected.




applegrove

(118,622 posts)
22. The GOP have often said "do you really want to watch Hillary age". It is a meme
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:17 PM
Sep 2013

with them. She has more light and personality in her face these days than cantor, ryan, paul & cruz have all together. They are unfeeling robots. She brilliant, warm and vital. **** the GOP.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
24. Obnoxious oped, but I have seen Joe Biden completely ruled out because of age
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:33 PM
Sep 2013

He is 4 or 5 years older than Clinton. I suspect that ANY 65 plus year old man will be labeled too old.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
28. Joe Biden will be 75 in January 2017
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:39 PM
Sep 2013

the average life expectancy for american men is 77. I think age is a legitimate concern in his case.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
27. Actually, women keep their brains and muscle tone much longer.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:22 PM
Sep 2013

Men and their myths. Poor delicate babies.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
29. DISGUSTING! I'm not going to vote for her in 2016...but, if Wes
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:43 PM
Sep 2013

is trying to get backlash from this POS...to get us Females to Vote for Hillary with this ....he's thinking females are STUPID, MINDLESS FOLLOWERS. The females and males that I know...are readers and they are independent minded. Maybe in his BUBBLE this stuff sells.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
30. Oh come now
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:53 PM
Sep 2013

Look, I may dislike Hillary, but even I know that age means jack. I am someone who thinks the Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd did their best work AFTER the 1960's. There are reasons not to vote for Hillary, but age is not one of them.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
32. It depends on the person.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:59 PM
Sep 2013

Hillary Clinton could handle the job of SOS. There is no age related reason she couldn't handle being president.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
33. You into Dynasties? Is that where you are coming from?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:21 PM
Sep 2013
Hillary, Jeb, Chelsea and then Jeb's *Star* Son...and then the Grandchildren of Bush and Clinton?

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