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Is voting a RIGHT or a Privilege? (Original Post) Bandit Sep 2013 OP
It is a RIGHT! KansDem Sep 2013 #1
You are mistaken. It can be rescinded, and therefore is a privilege. 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #2
Your right to own a firearm can be rescinded as well, but it is still considered a RIGHT Bandit Sep 2013 #5
Concur. Rights are inherent until forfeited by offense. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #18
Actually only in the NRA and the Roberts Court's demented minds is gun ownership a "right" duffyduff Sep 2013 #24
Uh, there's a reason we call some "The Bill of RIGHTS." Voting is a RIGHT granted to us in our WinkyDink Sep 2013 #14
it is a right and a responsibility! etherealtruth Sep 2013 #3
Hamilton wanted it to be a right for the privileged, orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #4
Hamilton was a monarchist BainsBane Sep 2013 #9
It's a RESPONSIBILITY! immoderate Sep 2013 #6
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #21
It is a behavior. ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #7
If it's not a right, we can't claim to be a democracy BainsBane Sep 2013 #8
We are not a democracy. Jenoch Sep 2013 #20
Technically, the US is supposed to be a representative democracy, Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #31
Since we do not have 'one man one vote' Jenoch Sep 2013 #32
It's a HUMAN RIGHT and personal RESPONSIBILITY. Earth_First Sep 2013 #10
It is a duty. n/t BlueToTheBone Sep 2013 #11
The "right to vote".... suston96 Sep 2013 #12
It's a duty to me... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #13
+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #26
It's a privilege. Keefer Sep 2013 #15
Then 2 amendment is a privelege also. ret5hd Sep 2013 #27
Voting is an obligation. Downwinder Sep 2013 #16
It is a Privilege, conditioned on age, and at other times other factors 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #17
Voting is most certainly a right. Jenoch Sep 2013 #19
Well, I guess we have settled THAT question ....... oldhippie Sep 2013 #22
I see it as a right and responsibility. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #23
i don't see voting as a responsibility. Jenoch Sep 2013 #25
Voting is a RIGHT- plain and simple meow2u3 Sep 2013 #28
It's a duty. dkf Sep 2013 #29
Legally it's a privilege. Morally it's a right. KentuckyWoman Sep 2013 #30

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
1. It is a RIGHT!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:51 PM
Sep 2013

In spite of what the Kansas Secretary of State thinks:

Your guide to Kansas elections.

Secretary of State Kris W. Kobach welcomes you to Vote Kansas! This website guides you through each step of the Kansas election process, including changes implemented in 2012. We hope it will be useful as you exercise your voting privilege and responsibility.

http://www.voteks.org/

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
5. Your right to own a firearm can be rescinded as well, but it is still considered a RIGHT
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:55 PM
Sep 2013
In fact all your RIGHTS can be taken from you including your very LIFE if you behave in a manner that warrants it.
 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
24. Actually only in the NRA and the Roberts Court's demented minds is gun ownership a "right"
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:18 PM
Sep 2013

The second amendment in reality has NOTHING to do with it and only applies to militias.

Only when the nutjobs took over the NRA back in 1978 did the bullshit about the second amendment take hold. The NRA previously had a very reasonable stance on gun control.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
14. Uh, there's a reason we call some "The Bill of RIGHTS." Voting is a RIGHT granted to us in our
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:15 PM
Sep 2013

Constitution, which happens to be THE LAW OF THE LAND.

Life itself can be "rescinded," but then again, I didn't study with the Jesuits.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
9. Hamilton was a monarchist
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:07 PM
Sep 2013

and voting was restricted only to propertied white males, until the Jacksonian period when unpropertied white males got the franchise.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
6. It's a RESPONSIBILITY!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:56 PM
Sep 2013

To talk of "rights" is abstract. They're there until they're not. And to call them a privilege is an insult to citizens.

It disturbs me most that this so called "right" is rescinded when people have a criminal record. It's their input that might be most pertinent in matters of law.

--imm

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
20. We are not a democracy.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:51 PM
Sep 2013

We are a representative public. If we were a democracy, everyone would have the right to vote on everything. That is impossible so we vote in people to represent us, thus congress, legislators, city councils, county boards, township boards, etc.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
31. Technically, the US is supposed to be a representative democracy,
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:42 PM
Sep 2013

which is generally defined as "a form of government founded on the principle of elected individuals representing the people, as opposed to autocracy and direct democracy."

http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Representative_democracy.html

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
32. Since we do not have 'one man one vote'
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:27 AM
Sep 2013

we are not a democracy. If you wish to call it a representative democracy, that's ok with me. That does not change the fact that the U.S. is a representative republic. A representative republic means a state that is not monarchical, it has no political connotations in the U.S. other than what it means literally.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
10. It's a HUMAN RIGHT and personal RESPONSIBILITY.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:08 PM
Sep 2013

Good government affords ALL citizens the ability to freely vote in open and fair elections.

Good citizenship requires RESPONSIBILITY to vote early and often in their countries elections.

suston96

(4,175 posts)
12. The "right to vote"....
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:08 PM
Sep 2013

....was not mentioned in the US Constitution or the Bill of Rights until the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified. I have always wondered why that is.

After the Fourteenth Amendment the "right to vote" is mentioned several times as to protection and once as a negatory - the Twenty Second Amendment which took away the right to elect a president of choice for all the citizens.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
13. It's a duty to me...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:12 PM
Sep 2013

Too many people lost their lives just to ensure future generations of black Americans the right to vote freely and without intimidation...

(this is why I rage so hard at those wannabe nihilist too-cool-to-vote hipsters)

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
26. +1
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:25 PM
Sep 2013

And some could vote - but only with the help of a white male who could get him the test in a foreign language so he could memorize that answers in advance. My grandfather was one.

Privilege,right, duty - in a Federal Republic sometimes it's all you've got.

And my right to vote when I've been doing it for 22 years is non negotiable.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
17. It is a Privilege, conditioned on age, and at other times other factors
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:24 PM
Sep 2013

There have been conditions under which this privilege has not been extended to all citizens, for instance when people of color and women were not allowed in the voting booth. Today it is conditioned on age. No one 17 years of age can vote, but people of that age can be tried in courts of law as adults and in fact they can even be executed by the state. So it is not a right extended to all citizens.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
19. Voting is most certainly a right.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:48 PM
Sep 2013

In Minnesota where I live, if someone has lived in a voting precinct for at least 20 days prior to election day, they can go to the polls on election day and register and vote without any photo ID. They will have to bring in a registered voter from the same precinct (neighbor) to vouch for them however.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
22. Well, I guess we have settled THAT question .......
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 07:05 PM
Sep 2013

... NOT!

Funny how we have such a diversity of thought even here.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
25. i don't see voting as a responsibility.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:20 PM
Sep 2013

There are too many people who vote but do not educate themselves on the candidates or the issues. If they cannot be troubled with doing the minimum of informing themselves, I'd rather they not vote.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
28. Voting is a RIGHT- plain and simple
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:39 PM
Sep 2013

Photo ID requirements as a condition to vote requires that you pay to vote, denies people their rights, and is an unconstitutional, back door poll tax.

Only people with the twisted idea that voting is a privilege, like cashing a check or driving, think it's OK to make people jump through hoops just to be able to vote.

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