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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:30 AM Sep 2013

Feinstein Says Press Needs To Stop Calling Patriot Act Surveillance Program A 'Surveillance Program'

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130926/12135824666/redefining-english-senator-feinstein-says-press-needs-to-stop-calling-patriot-act-surveillance-program-surveillance-program.shtml

In an open Senate Intelligence Committee hearing today, in which Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, NSA boss Keith Alexander and Deputy Attorney General James Cole all got to talk up how important spying on everyone is, there was an incredible moment in which Intelligence Committee boss Senator Dianne Feinstein scolded not these bosses of the surveillance program, but the press for calling it a surveillance program.

... She argued that the Patriot Act's Section 215, which has been interpreted to allow for the collection of phone records on every phone call is NOT a surveillance program because it just "collects metadata." She suggests that it's unfair to call this surveillance program a surveillance program.
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Feinstein Says Press Needs To Stop Calling Patriot Act Surveillance Program A 'Surveillance Program' (Original Post) Newsjock Sep 2013 OP
Feinstein Needs To Stop Calling Herself A Democrat jsr Sep 2013 #1
This would have been my post, but I see you beat me to it. silvershadow Sep 2013 #17
She needs to retire warrant46 Sep 2013 #27
Yup..........nt Enthusiast Sep 2013 #18
+1 n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #32
Feinstein needs to step down. We need to defund her and the NSA. Th1onein Sep 2013 #2
Unless she steps down she's in until Jan 2019 davidpdx Sep 2013 #14
Sounds like she has dementia The Second Stone Sep 2013 #3
can she be any more infuriating? bbgrunt Sep 2013 #4
Next election, Di-Fi needs to go bye-bye. AzDar Sep 2013 #5
Hopefully she won't run again. I can't vote for her again. Ever. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #10
We are stuck with her until 2018 I believe. I didn't want to vote for her last time, but she JDPriestly Sep 2013 #12
She needs to retire... erinmblair Sep 2013 #6
Feinstein is currently the biggest embarrassment to the Democratic party. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #7
NSA SamKnause Sep 2013 #8
Let's see we can't call a surveillance program a surveillance program, can't call bombing a war, avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #9
+10000!!! FirstLight Sep 2013 #16
Typical psychopath. QuestForSense Sep 2013 #19
Feinstein doesn't know what she is talking about. It's really sad. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #11
+1000 nenagh Sep 2013 #13
Voted against her in her last 2 primaries. tblue Sep 2013 #15
^ Wilms Sep 2013 #20
yes, this is the lady we can trust with applying the official reddread Sep 2013 #21
California needs to stop calling Feinstein a senator. D23MIURG23 Sep 2013 #22
Her entire job seems to be voting for things that will allow her to hand SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #23
DiFi's old man still making a killing off the wars for profit? Octafish Sep 2013 #24
When will she retire? hatrack Sep 2013 #25
Not a Chance there warrant46 Sep 2013 #29
She's correct, it's not a surveillance program hootinholler Sep 2013 #26
And they probably will kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #28
So she's about to start her Orwellian PR campaign then? Good to know. dkf Sep 2013 #30
I wish we could stop Spirochete Sep 2013 #31

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. Unless she steps down she's in until Jan 2019
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:15 AM
Sep 2013

It is a little late to defund her given she just got reelected. Sucks big time that we are stuck with her.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. We are stuck with her until 2018 I believe. I didn't want to vote for her last time, but she
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:59 AM
Sep 2013

gets Republican votes and is therefore an uncontroversial shoo-in. For Democrats it was one less race to worry about. But she is a horrible senator. And, yes, she has worsened over time.

erinmblair

(105 posts)
6. She needs to retire...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:28 AM
Sep 2013

I used to like her years ago, but I think she needs to be replaced. There are many other Democrats in California who would LOVE to be in the Senate.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
7. Feinstein is currently the biggest embarrassment to the Democratic party.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:36 AM
Sep 2013

At least as far as I'm concerned.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
9. Let's see we can't call a surveillance program a surveillance program, can't call bombing a war,
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:51 AM
Sep 2013

and can't call bloggers - journalists?

What is with Feinstein's fascist control of language, speech and freedom of the press?



JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. Feinstein doesn't know what she is talking about. It's really sad.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:56 AM
Sep 2013

What does she think surveillance is? I wonder how she would define it.

She has no clue about what can be learned from the metadata if it is placed in a really powerful computer and crunched and sorted and put back together in a more "useful" form.

Feinstein is technologically challenged. She belongs to the older generation and has no clue what she is talking about.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
15. Voted against her in her last 2 primaries.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:30 AM
Sep 2013

She's always a sure bet to win but I don't think I voted for her in the GE either. She's awful. She's Olympia Snowe, or wants to be.

D23MIURG23

(2,848 posts)
22. California needs to stop calling Feinstein a senator.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:44 PM
Sep 2013

Someone else in that state is more deserving of that title.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
23. Her entire job seems to be voting for things that will allow her to hand
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:59 PM
Sep 2013

her husband's company government contracts..

Military contracts in Iraq.

High Speed Rail contracts.

Real Estate contracts for the Post Office.

Who knows what else.

This shit needs to stop.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. DiFi's old man still making a killing off the wars for profit?
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:07 PM
Sep 2013

Dianne Feinstein—the ninth wealthiest member of congress—has been beset by monumental ethical conflicts of interest. As a member of the Military Construction Appropriations Subcommittee (MILCON) from 2001 to the end of 2005, Senator Feinstein voted for appropriations worth billions of dollars to her husband’s firms.

SOURCE: http://www.projectcensored.org/23-feinsteins-conflict-of-interest-in-iraq/

Which is why so many in Congress are so pissed at exposures like Snowden's.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
29. Not a Chance there
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:31 PM
Sep 2013

Being from the Midwest I know little about her except that Right Wing hate groups put her picture up in their commercials to influence the weak minded sheep to vote against any Progressive on the notion that they are all like her.

But now I see she was born on June 22, 1933 So she is already 80 years old

She will be around until 2019 then she will be 86.

Maybe with a couple more terms she might beat out Strom Thurmond for longevity.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
26. She's correct, it's not a surveillance program
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:21 PM
Sep 2013

It's a fucking time machine retroactive surveillance program.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
28. And they probably will
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:22 PM
Sep 2013

Not that anybody's pursuing a deliberate tactic of spreading a "chilling effect" over dissent and the press or anything. If you feel somehow intimidated by the idea of an all-seeing, unaccountable secret police monitoring and recording all your communications, and sifting through your personal history, and doing the same to everyone else you've ever known or heard of, as well as leafing through your stored files at home or at work perhaps, for all you know, and sharing all this information with other branches of the clandestine services, who have a history of using torture and assassination - well, that's not her fault! You probably feel intimidated by the sight of a citizen peaceably carrying an AK47 slung over his shoulder in a supermarket too.

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