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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:08 PM Sep 2013

NRA elephant hunter slams ‘animal racists’: Hitler would oppose killing elephants too!

You could spend an hour unpacking all the right-wing crazy in this little exchange, but I think the flagship horse-shit is that we're supposed to believe he shot that elephant so a bunch of hungry Africans could eat it. It's all about feeding the children, you see.

Makris, you paid an assload of money to travel to Africa and shoot an elephant because you fucking wanted to get your rocks off shooting a Big Tusker. Because you're exactly that kind of un-reconstructed 19th-century male ego whose identity is tied up in the idea that killing big dangerous animals is macho. End of story.

In an interview with the NRA talk show host Cam Edwards on Thursday, Makris explained how he responded to animal rights activists who could not understand why he would kill an elephant.

“The short answer is because hungry people eat them and because I’m a hunter,” he said. “You know, I’m not an elephant hunter. I’m a hunter. I hunt all things.”

Makris continued: “And they go, ‘They’re so big and kind and gentle and smart.’ And I said, ‘Okay, let me ask you a question. Should I be able to shoot birds? Well, I guess that’s okay. Ducks? Yeah. Pigeons? Oh, they’re flying rats, okay. Rabbits? Well rabbits are cute. But yeah. Squirrels? That’s nothing but a rat with a tail — with a fuzzy tail.’ And I said, ‘Well deer eat all my mother’s roses in Long Island.’ And I go, ‘So I can shoot all of those, but not an elephant?’”

Makris called that philosophy “a very unique form of animal racism.”

“And now they’re shocked,” he added. “And they said, ‘But they’re so big and special and they’re smarter.’”

“And I went, ‘You know, Hitler would have said the same thing.’”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/27/nra-elephant-hunter-slams-animal-racists-hitler-would-oppose-killing-elephants-too/
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NRA elephant hunter slams ‘animal racists’: Hitler would oppose killing elephants too! (Original Post) phantom power Sep 2013 OP
and another thing... phantom power Sep 2013 #1
Maybe people thing he's a jerk simply because he enjoys killing.. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #2
Go fuck yourself, Makris. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #3
By the way, the whole "Hitler was a vegetarian" thing has been debunked thousands of times Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #4
I think in this case, he was actually making some kind of racism argument phantom power Sep 2013 #5

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
1. and another thing...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:37 PM
Sep 2013

"But they’re so big and special and they’re smarter."

He says this, like it doesn't make sense to him. Which I'm sure it doesn't. Because he's the kind of wingnut who thinks anything that isn't a human has equal moral standing, which is "zero." Because Jesus, that's why.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
2. Maybe people thing he's a jerk simply because he enjoys killing..
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:40 PM
Sep 2013

Maybe people thing he's a jerk simply because he enjoys killing... regardless of what form or format that killing takes.


"“And I went, ‘You know, Hitler would have said the same thing.’”
If it makes him feel any better though, I have few doubts he does indeed internalize the thought of Derr Fuehrer, and know what he would have said and thought.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
4. By the way, the whole "Hitler was a vegetarian" thing has been debunked thousands of times
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:07 PM
Sep 2013

The man was not a vegetarian. Not like I really expect the anti-vegetarian crowd to catch on. They're kind of like those people that tell us Hitler took away all the guns of the German people, when in fact he did no such thing.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
5. I think in this case, he was actually making some kind of racism argument
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:18 PM
Sep 2013

Like: "oh, so you think elephants should be treated special because they're smart and social, well Hitler thought some humans were more special than others, so neener neener, you liberal Hitler animal racists!"

So, he really showed us

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