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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:42 PM Sep 2013

Obamacare Could Lead To 33% More New Businesses Over The Next Few Years


Obamacare Could Lead To 33% More New Businesses Over The Next Few Years

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-obamacare-could-create-thousands-of-new-entrepreneurs-2013-5#ixzz2g7QmPdDZ

Despite objections by businesses to parts of the Affordable Care Act, there could be as many as 33% more new small businesses over the next few years as a result of the law, reports the WSJ. The Kauffman-RAND Institute for Entrepreneurship Public Policy calculated the estimate.
Why the projected increase?

A major barrier that keeps people, especially those with pre-existing conditions, from starting their own business is the ability to get robust and affordable health insurance. People seek out and keep corporate jobs, not because they want to, but because they feel like they have to. Entrepreneurs call the phenomenon "entrepreneurship lock."

The Affordable Care Act could potentially solve that by offering people who start businesses coverage through state- or federally-run marketplaces for insurance (exchanges).

To see that full 33% increase in new businesses, coverage from exchanges would have to be equivalent to that from corporate plans, which is unlikely in the short run.

For young people, the idea of being unable to pay for massive medical bills seems distant and unlikely. But many older people have seen it in others or experienced it themselves, or have dependents that they have to worry about.

Without a significant savings cushion, a luxury many people don't have, leaving a safe corporate job with benefits just doesn't seem like an option.

Great business ideas aren't limited to the affluent or the young, and though it might take a while to play out, this looks like an unsung benefit of the new health care legislation.
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Obamacare Could Lead To 33% More New Businesses Over The Next Few Years (Original Post) ErikJ Sep 2013 OP
This is not a bug, it's a feature mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #1
Yes, remnant of America's slave history? ErikJ Sep 2013 #3
Yeah, that's true mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #9
Speaking as a business owner -- I can't wait for Obamacare. Skinner Sep 2013 #2
^ Exactly n/t sharp_stick Sep 2013 #4
I'm a business owner, too, but it's just me. BKH70041 Sep 2013 #5
I've got catastrophic health ins too. ErikJ Sep 2013 #8
No copay preventative care is likely the most important part of the Affordable Care Act Trekologer Sep 2013 #22
Question: my preventive care was 100% covered thru employer but every preventive procedure turned peacebird Sep 2013 #27
Skinner, in addition to the exchanges on healthcare.gov, try NFIB steve2470 Sep 2013 #7
Including faux insurance comanies. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #6
All people on food stamps drive Cadillacs? Th1onein Sep 2013 #11
No but all insurance companies rip people off grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #13
All health insurance companies do, for sure. I'm hoping Obamacare is the beginning Zorra Sep 2013 #17
So Obamacare is bad? Your argument is not a good one. Th1onein Sep 2013 #24
I know a few people who are on foodstamps and drive Cadillacs. mwooldri Sep 2013 #30
But Robbins Sep 2013 #10
Breaking the tie between employers and health insurance treestar Sep 2013 #12
Somehow you think this is a good thing. You must be well-to-do. duffyduff Sep 2013 #18
By the second sentence, you are mistaken. treestar Sep 2013 #19
Absolutely! KrazyinKS Sep 2013 #14
One issue I see with this, and it's pretty significant BKH70041 Sep 2013 #15
When you set the workers free, businesses will have to compete for help SHRED Sep 2013 #16
Wishful thinking. There is no shortage of labor and a deep shortage of capital below the TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #21
Will there be 'robust' and 'affordable' small business loans? leftstreet Sep 2013 #20
Expect to see a wave of job hopping as well - many people are locked into their current positions hedgehog Sep 2013 #23
Another thing... stopwastingmymoney Sep 2013 #25
And it "could" also lead to alien invasion. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #26
my wife and i gave up our business in the late 80`s because of health insurance madrchsod Sep 2013 #28
Kick! (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #29
 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
3. Yes, remnant of America's slave history?
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:54 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:49 PM - Edit history (1)

I think thats why they like the employee based health care system. It keeps their employees trapped into loyalty. ANd it keeps them from starting their own business to compete against them. Not any more though. HAHAHA

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
2. Speaking as a business owner -- I can't wait for Obamacare.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:51 PM
Sep 2013

I've been getting health care from my wife's job, and unfortunately it's about to end. I'm actually a little worried that we might not be able to get coverage for our family to get us to the end of the year when Obamacare kicks in.

Having only two other employees, it is virtually impossible to get half-decent health care. Obamacare is going to make it much easier.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
5. I'm a business owner, too, but it's just me.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:59 PM
Sep 2013

Still I have a family (4 of us) for which I need to have coverage. My former insurance ended about a month ago, so I got a catastrophic policy to cover for the major things until Jan 1st. It's like a $25,000 deductible, but only $500 for 4 months. I just figure if something bad does happen that runs into the $100's of thousands, at least I've got something. You might want to check and see if that's available in your area.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
8. I've got catastrophic health ins too.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:13 PM
Sep 2013

I had my old policy changed to Obamacare compatible spring 2012. I was paying $220 a month and now paying $120 a month with a $10,000 deductible. It gives me free physicals and cancer screenings though. I just had a physlical last week with a couple of shots and blood test for free. They tell me that that policy will go away on Jan. 1st and my new real Obama policy kicks in. I think it will be more expensive but it will be much better in case I need it with all the new OC benefits. In case I need it it will have a max. out of pocket of about $4000 a year with no lifetime caps. etc.

Trekologer

(997 posts)
22. No copay preventative care is likely the most important part of the Affordable Care Act
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 12:31 PM
Sep 2013

An annual physical and most lab work is covered with no copay in covered with all plans, even the lowest level (bronze). My physical last year, including all of the lab work, was billed at over $1,200 (the insurance plan's negotiated rate was far, far less). And I'm in fine health.

Every time someone here complains that the Affordable Care Act only provides insurance, not health care, they're completely wrong. Preventative care is vital to keeping individuals healthy and healthcare costs down and it is 100% covered now.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
27. Question: my preventive care was 100% covered thru employer but every preventive procedure turned
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:56 AM
Sep 2013

Into a "diagnostic" procedure, so was not covered. For example, colonoscopy is preventive but if they pull out a polyp it becomes diagnostic so it costs me money. I think this was because our megacorp "self insured" using BC/BS.

Is that loophole fixed in the ACA?

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
7. Skinner, in addition to the exchanges on healthcare.gov, try NFIB
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:03 PM
Sep 2013
http://www.nfib.com

They are RW as all fuck, but at least you can get small business health insurance through them. Mine is Aetna (greedy bastards who spent $7M lobbying Congress).

Just a thought. HTH.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
11. All people on food stamps drive Cadillacs?
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 08:19 PM
Sep 2013

There are going to be people who abuse ANY system, including Obamacare. That doesn't mean that it doesn't help most people.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
17. All health insurance companies do, for sure. I'm hoping Obamacare is the beginning
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:38 AM
Sep 2013

of a short process that leads to universal public healthcare.

And the end of the private health insurance company vultures.

I especially want United Healthcare to go bankrupt in the worst way. Bunch of legalized liars, frauds, thieves, and killers they are.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
30. I know a few people who are on foodstamps and drive Cadillacs.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 12:47 PM
Sep 2013

Now they're over 20 years old and not in the best of shape... but nevertheless they are Cadillacs.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. Breaking the tie between employers and health insurance
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:34 PM
Sep 2013

Has got to help businesses. They can quit worrying about/paying for it and hire more people.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
18. Somehow you think this is a good thing. You must be well-to-do.
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:14 AM
Sep 2013

Getting rid of employer-paid insurance is only good if there is single-payer. However, this ACA is a disaster waiting to happen because NOBODY will be able to afford to use the exchanges. And that is probably the point, on top of the fact it is an excuse for companies to abolish their health insurance plans. Look at the disaster of pensions/401(k)s, and you know where this is headed.

You DO realize that the "exchanges" have income levels that are pathetically inadequate, for if people can afford the outrageous monthly premiums (and remember for singles especially, premiums in large businesses or public employment are very small or even zero) and MOST will NOT, they definitely cannot afford the high deductibles. The "subsidies" are not going to help much if you have to pay this premium every month when you NEED the money for necessities like rent, food, etc.

Medicaid isn't insurance, and if you are over 55, the government can seize your assets upon your death to pay the debt. Lots of luck getting a doctor who will see you.

ACA is typical Washington legislation. It ends up hurting more than it helps because it's the lobbyists who wrote the legislation.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. By the second sentence, you are mistaken.
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:58 AM
Sep 2013

And it is progress. Single payer or nothing is not going to work; it would be decades before anything changed. The people who don't have insurance now are likely the lower paid, not the higher paid. Those who already have insurance with an employer are the ones who didn't care and didn't need Obamacare. They're the ones crying about "government takeover" (or the right wing ones are).

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
14. Absolutely!
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 08:57 AM
Sep 2013

Is that what scares them? I suppose the reasons are complex, but a change in the health care system will lead to a lot more personal freedom, like starting your own business and creating more competition in the marketplace. We all know big business does not like competition. That I think is one of the side effects that never seems to get discussed much. They don't want the general population to realize that.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
15. One issue I see with this, and it's pretty significant
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:21 AM
Sep 2013

The banks aren't lending. A whole bunch of the larger banks aren't even lending on new home construction, and that's much more secure of a risk than a start up business. I'll be building a new home over the next 9 months and the number of banks who are lending are few.

So at this point, and over the course of the next several years, it's going to take capital to start up and for there to be sufficient savings set aside until business gets moving. That usually takes 2 or 3 years, and most people just can't hold out that long.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
21. Wishful thinking. There is no shortage of labor and a deep shortage of capital below the
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 12:17 PM
Sep 2013

top 20% at very best. Probably more like the top 5%. This will help a few older people with significant savings and extensive credit to take a few risks but most of us are as chained to the paychecks as we are to health care or they are already taking the risks and will have a floor put in under them, but probably more of us are tied to the checks than the insurance. Coverage is important but income is beyond critical when the majority is essentially paycheck to paycheck.

Sorry, but substantially though not completely this is just another in a seemingly infinite parade of Horatio Hornblower sales jobs. A bootstrap s tale.

It will help but 33% is a stretch. We're becoming just another denomination of a false, secular, state religion by the day.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
23. Expect to see a wave of job hopping as well - many people are locked into their current positions
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 05:05 PM
Sep 2013

because they or a dependent have a pre-existing condition!

stopwastingmymoney

(2,041 posts)
25. Another thing...
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:43 AM
Sep 2013

I know several people in their late 50's who would love to retire but don't because they need the health insurance. I think we'll see a substantial number of early retirees, opening up jobs for younger people who really need them.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
26. And it "could" also lead to alien invasion.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:50 AM
Sep 2013

This is an entirely made-up number pulled out of thin air. Using the word "calculated" is stretching it, to be honest.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
28. my wife and i gave up our business in the late 80`s because of health insurance
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:56 AM
Sep 2013

we could`t afford private insurance on our family so my wife had to keep her full time job. there was`t anyway we could expand with her working full time. today that would`t be the case.

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