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CatWoman

(79,295 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:05 PM Sep 2013

Student Cited By Ted Cruz As Proof Of Obama's Failure Is Actually Grateful For Obamacare



During his 21-hour talkfest on the Senate floor earlier this week, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) went through a litany of examples that he said highlighted the abject failures of President Barack Obama's policies.

One of them involved the case of John Connelly, a Rutgers student who found himself in debt, without a permanent job, and forced to sleep on his friend's couch. His story was one that was all too common in the age of Obama, Cruz concluded.

Well, it turns out that Connelly isn't the biggest fan of Cruz. What's more, he is actually a beneficiary of the very health care law that Cruz was protesting during his speech. And in an appearance on MSNBC Friday morning, Connelly explained just how ironic it was that the senator would use his story to bludgeon the president and the Affordable Care Act.

"A friend of mine called me the next morning as I was on the way to an optometrist appointment .... [and said], 'While Ted Cruz was talking about why the ACA's bad, he mentioned your name.' And I said, 'Well, that's funny. I'm heading to an appointment I can only go to because of Obamacare.'"

Cruz had apparently gotten Connelly's story from a recent Wall Street Journal article that focused primarily on student debt, not on health care reform.

Watch the video of Connelly's MSNBC appearance above.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/27/ted-cruz-filibuster_n_4003947.html?ncid=txtlnkushpmg00000037

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Student Cited By Ted Cruz As Proof Of Obama's Failure Is Actually Grateful For Obamacare (Original Post) CatWoman Sep 2013 OP
Strange that Fox didn't invite this guy on Doctor_J Sep 2013 #1
I'm sure they will MattBaggins Sep 2013 #13
alas if your tea party PatrynXX Sep 2013 #14
Imagine that gopiscrap Sep 2013 #31
Carnaval Cruz can't get anything right. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2013 #2
Just how out of touch with REALITY is this Cruz Twit? Cha Sep 2013 #3
Cruz will need his free Govenment Health Care to remove JEB Sep 2013 #4
He is not going to stop putting his foot in his mouth Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #5
Nah. Buy him a shoehorn to make room for two feet plus his third appendage. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #21
Wrong end. Ikonoklast Sep 2013 #33
Cruz could work in a circus (real circus, not the Senate). JEB Sep 2013 #36
Oops!!!!!!! BronxBoy Sep 2013 #6
Sigh... HuffPo... whttevrr Sep 2013 #7
No real shock from the party of Joe The Plummer. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #8
Shit-eating grin, shit for brains... I see a pattern here. AAO Sep 2013 #9
Big Ed will be talking about this after the break CatWoman Sep 2013 #10
Heard him on Ed Schultz. How does this get properly handled? SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2013 #11
these people are so fucking stupid JI7 Sep 2013 #12
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahaha malaise Sep 2013 #15
Thank you for posting this, I'll be pointing this out to a few rethugs I know! Unrepentant Fenian Sep 2013 #16
Any schools Cruz graduated from should demand his diplomas returned right about now.... Moonwalk Sep 2013 #17
Kick kick kick! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #18
Texas is missing of of their idiots. Historic NY Sep 2013 #19
Saw him on Ed Schultz. He was quite eloquent and a great spokesman for the ACA SunSeeker Sep 2013 #20
It is not in the interest of an RW bozo to represent reality truthfullly. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #22
Interesting - NY Bronze seems to have no vision - bread_and_roses Sep 2013 #23
to have vision covered questionseverything Sep 2013 #24
All health insurance plans price based upon how much payment risk the insured is willing to bluestate10 Sep 2013 #29
Yes, you have correctly identified the fatal flaw bread_and_roses Sep 2013 #32
Cruz=liar,misinformed,stupid/dumb & wrong.... hue Sep 2013 #25
The people who support Cruz couldn't care less if he's telling the truth or not Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #26
Super ditto. SoapBox Sep 2013 #28
Cruz...idiot...liar...LIAR SoapBox Sep 2013 #27
If I Rebl Sep 2013 #30
Obamacare doesn't cover optometry. nt Romulox Sep 2013 #34
Guess he forgot about how they've fucked education. Snort. Students are not his friends. lonestarnot Sep 2013 #35
K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #37
Ted Cruz blames the fire chief for all those house fires. n/t Orsino Sep 2013 #38

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
14. alas if your tea party
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 07:13 PM
Sep 2013

Faux Noise is a channel thats given in to the Liberals. Yeah again in alternative Universe They are clamoring for The Blaze now to be on cable.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
3. Just how out of touch with REALITY is this Cruz Twit?
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:42 PM
Sep 2013

Good for said reality that this story got out to msnbc!

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
36. Cruz could work in a circus (real circus, not the Senate).
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:07 AM
Sep 2013

The ability to put his foot in his mouth with his head deeply embedded up his ass makes him a contortionist extraordinaire.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
11. Heard him on Ed Schultz. How does this get properly handled?
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 05:50 PM
Sep 2013

It's pure insanity that this is happening. There's no other explanation. The Tea Party has become mentally defective and thinks it speaks for everyone. Their popularity is falling from 30% to 20% before Ted's excellent jerk-off talk. What must it be now? Connelly ought to appear with Obama over the weekend and on Fox News with Chris Wallace.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
12. these people are so fucking stupid
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 06:40 PM
Sep 2013

they can't see how much things like being able to stay on their parents health insurance plans would be helpful for young people who are already struggling. especially if they have health problems which require regular attention.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
17. Any schools Cruz graduated from should demand his diplomas returned right about now....
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:28 PM
Sep 2013

...no one this stupid could have passed without cheating his ass off (or paying someone off). And I don't mean just college. I'm thinking high school and kindergarden....

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
20. Saw him on Ed Schultz. He was quite eloquent and a great spokesman for the ACA
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 01:22 AM
Sep 2013

Obama should go on the road with him!

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
23. Interesting - NY Bronze seems to have no vision -
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 08:51 AM
Sep 2013

except pediatric - and would beggar anyone who actually had to use it, with it's individual $3000 deductible and 50% co-pay for everything (including treatments like chemotherapy and dialysis .... right) except the free preventives. Of course, maybe it is included under Primary care? Or is it one of these?

http://info.nystateofhealth.ny.gov/sites/default/files/Standard%20Products.pdf

All other preventive services required by USPSTF and
HRSA.
Covered in full
• *Preventive services that are provided in accordance with
the comprehensive guidelines supported by USPSTF and
HRSA are covered in full. Preventive services that are
provided outside of these guidelines may be subject to costsharing


I don't know what those are, or where to find out ... I don't know what "cost-sharing" is, is it different from "co-insurance?" What is "co-insurance" btw? Is that what I pay?

And of course I did not go through the "Tax Credit and Premium Estimator" ... to find out what my Premium would be BEFORE I got the wonderful benefit of having to pay the unimaginable cost of 50% of surgeries or chemotherapy ...

Then of course I should read also what is

Standard Catastrophic Product.pdf
Silver Cost-Sharing Reduction Variations.pdf


to figure out what they are ....

Oh - wait - there's an "out-of-pocket" limit: individual $6,350 on Bronze - I just saw that - does that mean that once I've paid that much in my 50%s the rest is covered in full for surgeries, chemo, etc? If that's so, why is there a "standard catastrophic product" that covers everything after $6,350? That's the same as Bronze out-of-pocket? Does that mean that Bronze doesn't cover everything after $6,350?

Wonderful. I can't wait. I'm not actually destitute ... so will I have to pay someone to explain this all to me?

I don't actually expect anyone to reply - nor, actually, do I want anyone to. A few of those questions I know the answer to - many I don't. I remember what it was like when I worked with HIV/AIDS patients who initially were supposed to pick from Medicare plans that covered different drugs ... most of them didn't fit quite into any of the plans, being on so many different drugs for many different conditions. It was a nightmare.

I am college educated. In my previous work I used to have to read, understand, and explain in plain English things like NYS OMRDD regs .... I looked at the home page and http://info.nystateofhealth.ny.gov/resource/covered-benefits-and-out-pocket-costs-standard-health-plans of New York Exchange website and my eyes glazed over and I felt unutterably weary ...

ah yes - the "Marketplace" of the Vampire Health Insurance industry ......

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
24. to have vision covered
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:47 AM
Sep 2013

this young man either benefits from his parents policy (the 26 year old thing) or is now on medicaid..(medicaid will pay for glasses for adults every 2 years i think)

i have been studying web sites too and i admit i am terrified

looks like my families cost will be over 30 % of income

and if the plan pays 60% after the 12,700 yearly out of pocket \who is responsible for the rest of bill?

example: 100,000 medical bill minus the 12,700 oop and the 60,000 the insurance would pay leaves $27,500 unpaid...so who owes that? or is it forgiven?

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
29. All health insurance plans price based upon how much payment risk the insured is willing to
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 07:57 PM
Sep 2013

assume to avoid paying higher premiums. That is the way it's always been. Health reform reduces the price of the premium for a particular plan because of the larger insured pool.

You have the option of buying a different level of Bronze coverage, purchasing a Silver level plan, or a Gold level plan.

In my state, the lowest Bronze level plan for a 4 member family with an income above $70,656 per year is $975 for the lowest level Bronze plan which has a $10,000 out of pocket maximum per year and a hospital stay 20% co-insurance split (the insurer pays 80% of the hospital stay, the insured pays the rest), so a $100,000 hospital bill will set the insured back $20,000. Families earning less than $70,656 per year qualify for state subsidies and would likely also qualify for subsidies under the ACA too, dropping the amount paid by the family, also allowing the family to buy Silver level plan with lower out of pocket maximums and 100% insurer paid hospital stays.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
32. Yes, you have correctly identified the fatal flaw
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 08:01 AM
Sep 2013

Since no one knows what his or her health care needs will be tomorrow, the "risk the insured is willing to assume" is based not on "willingness" but purely on resources: how much can s/he "afford" (in itself a problematic term, since what the ACA calls "affordable" is, in many cases, not).

Basing your "insurance" on your ability to pay means not Platinum to Bronze "plans" but platinum to bronze people - you are only "worth" the care you can afford. This is unconscionable in a civilized society.

To pretend that decisions will be made on "what you/your family need" is pure market-speak and utterly dishonest. It is also dishonest to pretend that this is not another gazillion $$ transfer of the people's wealth to the Vampire Insurance industry. That is what those "subsidies" are.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
26. The people who support Cruz couldn't care less if he's telling the truth or not
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 05:43 PM
Sep 2013

Facts are of no concern to them. They only believe in right wing mythology They are fighting a holy war for the billionaires who have paid good money to brainwash them.

Rebl

(149 posts)
30. If I
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 08:43 PM
Sep 2013

Was this young man, I'd inform Mr. Cruz the next time you use my name in one of your rants,you must get my permission. Otherwise you will be speaking to my lawyer. Better yet, you do not have permission to use my name in your misinformation b.s. campaign.

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