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33 members of Congress who got farm subsidies yet voted to cut food stamps (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2013 OP
...special place in hell...nt pkdu Sep 2013 #1
And all but a few from red states. Welfare queens all! mountain grammy Sep 2013 #2
May they all come to a bad end. nt DURHAM D Sep 2013 #3
I wonder how many are leasing their land to oil drillers at the same time? shraby Sep 2013 #4
Wow, and this is the ones voting to cut food stamps, you bet, welfare queens come in Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #5
I don't get the problem Heather MC Sep 2013 #6
All three Kansas reps. SheilaT Sep 2013 #7
And They All Believe They're Rugged Independent Farmers Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #8
hypocrites Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #9
That Stephen Lee Fincher is evil...not only did he get the most money but.... SummerSnow Oct 2013 #10

shraby

(21,946 posts)
4. I wonder how many are leasing their land to oil drillers at the same time?
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:54 PM
Sep 2013

These kinds of people are the real welfare queens in this country

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Wow, and this is the ones voting to cut food stamps, you bet, welfare queens come in
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:58 PM
Sep 2013

Many different forms. If you count those like Romney who gained in companies when he raided the pension funds and the tax payers had to pit up $44m to take care of one company, you are damn straight, too damn much spending on these welfare queens. Cheney profited on a no bid contract to KBR who ripped us blind in the Bush wars.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
6. I don't get the problem
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:50 PM
Sep 2013

People who receive food stamps go to the Corporate super markets and hand the money over to the Large Corporations anyway. It's not like they are taking Food Stamp money and sticking it in Offshore accounts.

It's not like they are taking the money using it to buy food from local growers only. It goes straight into the pocket of all the Republican's best Corporate friends
Safeway
Target
Walmart
and so on.

So what's the freakin' problem their Corporate masters end up with the money every freaking month!!!!!

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
8. And They All Believe They're Rugged Independent Farmers
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 11:48 PM
Sep 2013

Standing on their own two feet, and anybody else who gets a dime is a welfare cheat.

$139? What does Massie get that for? Not growing wheat in a window box?


Wolf

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
10. That Stephen Lee Fincher is evil...not only did he get the most money but....
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 12:40 PM
Oct 2013

this article is spot on about his hypocrisy.


God is opposed to food stamps? Let’s try an evidence-based approach to hunger instead.
By Herb Silverman, Updated: June 12 at 2:02 pm

Recently, I wrote about a Democratic Representative of Congress who used biblical arguments for doing something about global warming to counter a Republican Representative’s biblical arguments for doing nothing about global warming. I advocated for evidence-based decisions rather than faith-based decisions, which put me on the do-something side.

Now we have a Republican who used biblical arguments against food stamps to counter Democrats who used biblical arguments for food stamps. During a meeting of the House Agricultural Committee, Tennessee Rep. Stephen Fincher quoted from Matthew and Thessalonians that the poor will always be with us and that those unwilling to work shall not eat. Fincher acknowledged that caring for the hungry might be something for Christians to do, but not with government money. While I strongly support separation of church and state, I think that’s a rather bizarre framing of the concept. Private support for the least among us can be for religious or secular reasons, but I hope we will never have a government that ignores the least among us.

Unfortunately, biblical arguments have become so commonplace in politics that they are hardly worth noting. This one, however, has an added dimension. Although Fincher complained about Washington stealing taxpayer money from some and giving it to others, he had no problem with Washington giving him $3.48 million of taxpayer dollars since 1999 for farm subsidies. Last year he reportedly received over $70,000, which I assume he needed more than those low-income people he wants to cut from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

It’s easy for powerful members of Congress to help themselves to such largess and justify it biblically with “God helps those who help themselves.” That’s not really in the Bible, but no matter. It sounds like it could be, and that’s good enough. If Rep. Fincher were to read his Bible carefully, he might find a word or two about hypocrites.

Interdisciplinary courses, especially those that can lead to good jobs, are popular at colleges and universities. So I propose one that combines political science with religious studies. The course would have four components:

Choose about a dozen hot political issues such as taxes, healthcare, education, science, environment, gay rights, women’s rights, homeland security, immigration, war, foreign aid, religious freedom, church/state separation, climate change, gun control, capital punishment, drugs, etc.

Take a side on each issue and write a persuasive position paper, using only biblical arguments. You may add other holy books to reinforce your case.
Take the opposite side on each issue, and do the same.

Finally, write papers for and against each side based solely on evidence.

Successful completion of the course might lead to post-college placement as an intern or a political consultant, and maybe even a career in politics.

Speechwriters regularly insert biblical phrases to justify political positions. It’s easy to cite a biblical source for any stance, but I hope students who can’t find good secular arguments for a policy will end up embracing an alternative policy. Otherwise, perhaps they should consider ministerial careers.

One of my favorite political quotes comes from Jamie Raskin, a law professor who testified at a Maryland State Senate hearing in 2006 about gay marriage. At the end of his testimony, Republican State Senator Nancy Jacobs said: “Mr. Raskin, my Bible says marriage is only between a man and a woman. What do you have to say about that?”

Raskin replied: “Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible.”

If I believed in a God with a sense of humor, I would think such a God had something to do with Jamie Raskin later becoming a Democratic State Senator from Maryland. And as a Constitutional law professor as well as a humanist, Raskin obviously knew when he swore to uphold the Constitution that he was not obliged to place his hand on a Bible or on any other document.


Herb Silverman is founder and President Emeritus of the Secular Coalition for America, author of “Candidate Without a Prayer: An Autobiography of a Jewish Atheist in the Bible Belt,” and Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Mathematics at the College of Charleston.

© The Washington Post Company


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/wp/2013/06/12/god-is-opposed-to-food-stamps-lets-try-an-evidence-based-approach-to-hunger-instead/?print=1

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