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By John Amato
Check out this tweet from Culbertson.
Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) September 28, 2013
Duncan's right. These tea party politicians are just horrible, stupid children.
Asked lasted about the analogy by a skeptical reporter, Culberson didnt back down calling it a good historical analogy.
The path forward endorsed by Speaker Boehner and the House GOP leadership is quite popular with the more extreme elements of the party. Michele Bachmann gushed, this is exactly what we asked for an we got it.
more
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/gop-congressman-obamacare-were-just-fli
Shameless and completely insane.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)marmar
(77,066 posts)nt
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)So trying to blow it up kinda makes you repukes the terrorists, huh?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:31 PM - Edit history (1)
They are willing to say and do ANYTHING to destroy the government which helps people.
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)As a college classmate and friend of Jason Dahl, Captain of United 93, I can't begin to express my outrage at this statement.
indepat
(20,899 posts)analogy?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I look around and I see so many people who love to vote for someone just because there is a R behind the name and the GOP is abusing them. With so many people uninsured in Texas you would think they would wise up but they don't. I send messages to Culberson all the time but he digs right in with the TP, he is just useless as a Representative.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Let's put this idiot on doomed plane and see if he makes the same comparision when and if he lands alive
n2doc
(47,953 posts)knife or club in hand, and see what happens...Hopefully the men in white coats won't be too rough on him...
Cha
(297,029 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)we no longer have to wonder what lives beneath the pit of an outhouse.
deucemagnet
(4,549 posts)they're going to crash the government into a Pennsylvania corn field so that more people don't get access to health care. Brilliant.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)CatWoman
(79,294 posts)In a pivotal closed-door meeting just now, House Republicans enthusiastically embraced a plan from Speaker John Boehner to attach a one-year delay of Obamacare to the government-funding bill, an act that dramatically raises the odds that the current funding law will expire on Tuesday without a replacement.
Boehner, who had weighed less antagonistic options such as attaching the delay or repeal of only some unpopular provisions in the health-care law, began the meeting by presenting the proposal in a confident but matter-of-fact tone, lawmakers said.
The reaction was overwhelmingly positive, in the words of one person in the room. Beautiful is how Representative Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia put it.
At one point, Representative John Culberson of Texas, whose aide had only last week confronted a top aide to Senator Ted Cruz over strategy, yelled Lets roll!, an allusion to a rallying cry used by Todd Bremer on a hijacked plane in the September 11 attacks.
Were totally unified. 100 percent, Culberson told reporters afterwards. Were doing the right thing for the right reasons.
BTW - You'll be surprised at the comments. They actually make sense.
jmowreader
(50,546 posts)Todd Beamer asks, "how could people who've been using the day I died as a bludgeon forget the history of it?"
kiranon
(1,727 posts)of his fellow Republicans terrorists. What kind of constituency does he have that they support this kind of insanity? Time to run a Democrat in his district or for a moderate Republican to primary him. He probably really believes what he is saying otherwise he couldn't be so stupid as to draw such an inappropriate and unreal analogy. The Republicans created this monster wing of their party and it's time they stood up to them, sided with the Democrats and passed some legislation that will save this country and its economy.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The word "terrorist" is not clearly defined.
Here is an example of how you define a crime:
Burglary, at Common Law, was the trespassory breaking and entering of the dwelling of another at night with an intent to commit a felony therein. It is an offense against possession and habitation.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/burglary
And here is the legal definition of a conspiracy.
The crime of conspiracy is defined as two or more persons conspiring to commit any crime, together with proof of the commission of an overt act in furtherance by one or more of the parties to such agreement. However, mere association of two or more persons will not constitute a criminal conspiracy[ii]. The main elements of conspiracy are a specific intent, an agreement with another person to engage a crime to be performed, and the commission of an overt act by one of the conspirators in furtherance of the conspiracy[iii].
An unlawful agreement is an element of a criminal conspiracy. Generally, the crime of conspiracy is complete when parties enter into a conspiratorial agreement. Moreover, if there is an agreement between two or more persons for an unlawful purpose, it is considered a criminal conspiracy even where there is no agreement regarding the details of the criminal scheme or the means by which the unlawful purpose will be accomplished. The agreement will determine whether single or multiple conspiracies exist between the parties. A single conspiratorial agreement will constitute a single criminal conspiracy and multiple agreements to commit separate crimes will constitute multiple conspiracies.
Similarly, conspiracy is considered a specific intent crime. A specific intent crime is one in which a person acts with knowledge of what he/she is doing and also with the objective of completing some unlawful act[iv]. The intent can be determined from words, acts, and conduct. If the conspirators agree or conspire with specific intent to kill and commit an overt act in furtherance of such agreement, then they are guilty of conspiracy to commit express malice murder[v].
http://conspiracy.uslegal.com/elements-of-the-crime/
Terrorism can be defined and is defined in the US Code. You would think that a terrorist would be one who commits terror. But in fact, that is not how it is used. A burglar may be one who has committed a burglary.
But included under the term "terrorist" can be people who hold unpopular ides, belong to an unpopular relgion, demonstrate peacefully for the environment, for instance.
And now, we hear Congress likening those who support and passed the ACA to terrorists.
The NSA is investigating "terrorists," most likely who have never committed acts of terrorism and who may or may not ever do so. I suspect and there is no reason not to suspect that they are just picking people they don't like, people whose profiles are of interest, people who are "different" in some way they don't like and are investigating them.
You, too, could be classed as a terrorist by some cooky Tea Party person.
I do not want to see any compromises with the nuts in the Tea Party.
Vogon_Glory
(9,114 posts)Culberson and his fellow Tea-haddists are far more like the terrorist hijackers who took control of Flight 93, fought the efforts of the crew and passengers to regain control of the plane, then crashed the plane when the crew and passengers didn't do what they wanted.
Hey, lurkers! Do you STILL believe that the GOP is the party of fiscal responsibility?
WISE UP!!!!
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)The most realistic way to regain the House majority is with the next census, and the redistricting done after. Thankfully, 2020 is also a presidential election year with higher Dem turnout, unlike 2010, where the Republicans took control of so many state governments to even enable them to gerrymander to their hearts's content. We need to turn the tables on them.
PDittie
(8,322 posts)Quite possibly the most ignorant person I have ever met, in a lifetime in Texas.
Louie Gohmert and Steve Stockman grab the headlines, but these lesser lights among the TXGOp are worthy in their own right.
Alkene
(752 posts)must be something unexperienced by a person who would make such an allusion. To be so callous toward those deaths, and so insensitive to those who still mourn the loss of those that they love is nothing less than pathological.
Childish? Certainly.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder? I'm not qualified to say.
Calculated "dog whistle" comment? Probably, although the type of constituent for which it was intended must be assumed to consider affordable health care to be an act of terrorism. At this point I am nonplussed.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)It's the Tea Party "crashing planes into buildings." (If we're going to use an analogy or metaphor.)
It's the Tea Party set on this suicide mission to take down the economy and HURT millions of Americans.
jsr
(7,712 posts)ananda
(28,856 posts)The only terrorists I see are Reep legislators holding poor and struggling
people hostages in their crazed anti-government shutdown mania.
pinto
(106,886 posts)And so inappropriate.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)of health care they won't get if they prevail. And making comparisons to 9/11 is just plain disrespectful and cruel to the victims and their families. You are so right. He should be so ashamed. I doubt he is insane but just another craven Tea Bagger.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)No excuse not to.