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ChazII

(6,204 posts)
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:11 AM Sep 2013

Need help - who wrote the Affordable Health Care Act?

I only found one link that named names at that link led to Freeperville, hence, I did not check it out. Whatever I am doing research wise I am not searching correctly. What you see in the title is what I am using as my search question. I have used Yahoo not Google.

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Need help - who wrote the Affordable Health Care Act? (Original Post) ChazII Sep 2013 OP
Isn't it a mish mash? dkf Sep 2013 #1
Republicans notadmblnd Sep 2013 #2
Don't you mean the republicants? TheDebbieDee Sep 2013 #28
Google Max Baucas and ACA. dgibby Sep 2013 #3
This. And I seem to remember Baucas crediting Liz Fowler for much of it. nt bunnies Sep 2013 #6
Max Baucus. LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #26
It was written by the Heritage Foundation in the 1990's and adapted by Mitt Romney LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #4
And Id bet Heritage based theirs on Nixons plan. bunnies Sep 2013 #8
I'd bet with you. nt LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #12
LaydeeBug, thank you ChazII Sep 2013 #18
You are so much welcome! I know what it's like to be in the thick of it LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #20
not sure but imo a lot of the ideas came from work on healthcare the clintons & Sunlei Sep 2013 #5
Suniel, I think I must be having ChazII Sep 2013 #19
Good luck finding the definitive answer to that... PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #7
Bob Dole originally proposed the plan back in the last century. The Heritage Foundation Cleita Sep 2013 #9
The main difference between what Hillary came up with and the Republican's counter Bandit Sep 2013 #11
Exactly! and thank you n/t ChazII Sep 2013 #15
The M$M works for the same paymasters; otherwise Rex Sep 2013 #22
Yes, the media should be asking ChazII Sep 2013 #25
Thank you for making this thread. Rex Sep 2013 #29
Agree with your comments. And thank you. nt ChazII Sep 2013 #17
It was written by the Heritage Foundation DURHAM D Sep 2013 #10
Thank you. ChazII Sep 2013 #16
Health insurance industry lobbyists. n/t duffyduff Sep 2013 #13
Here's a clue: jsr Sep 2013 #14
Thank you to everyone who answered ChazII Sep 2013 #21
Here's what Wiki says solarhydrocan Sep 2013 #23
Wow is about all I can say but ChazII Sep 2013 #24
A friend of mine keeps saying: truedelphi Sep 2013 #31
Countless meetings between Rahm Emanuel and various Execs of Big Health Insurers truedelphi Sep 2013 #27
Basically the Republicans did, then they voted against it. B Calm Sep 2013 #30
Once again thanks ChazII Oct 2013 #32
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
1. Isn't it a mish mash?
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:14 AM
Sep 2013

But the main guys were the ones behind Romneycare I believe.

Authors of Affordable Care law astounded by its trials

A day after the Supreme Court upheld President Obama’s health care law by one vote, Jonathan Gruber and John McDonough — perhaps the two nonpoliticians from Massachusetts most responsible for transforming the state’s health reforms into national legislation — expressed incredulity at how close the law came to being overturned.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/2012/06/30/architects-health-reform-dismayed-how-close-law-came-being-overturned/M2bdEdRl6zaC5EaiAmSflO/story.html

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
2. Republicans
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:17 AM
Sep 2013

It is modeled after the State of Massachussetts health plan that Mitt Romney implemented when he was governor of the state.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
28. Don't you mean the republicants?
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:42 PM
Sep 2013

The republicants pooh-poohed all the best ideas presented for the ACA. They nixed the public option, single-payer and countless other ideas that would have made the ACA easier.....

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
3. Google Max Baucas and ACA.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:17 AM
Sep 2013

His comittee was responsible for the hearings. In truth, it's a rework of the proposal put forth by the Heritage Foundation with heavy input from the health insurance industry.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
4. It was written by the Heritage Foundation in the 1990's and adapted by Mitt Romney
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:18 AM
Sep 2013

when he was governor in Mass. It's been tweaked each time, but the individual mandate part was absolutely the brain child of the Heritage Foundation (a right wing group)

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/letters/2012/07/02/aca-reflects-heritage-foundation-model/

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
18. LaydeeBug, thank you
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:13 PM
Sep 2013

As I read your link it brought back memories of past campaign years. Thank for this link and I have bookmarked it.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
20. You are so much welcome! I know what it's like to be in the thick of it
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:16 PM
Sep 2013

and you just. need. that. link.

LOL.

Anytime.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
5. not sure but imo a lot of the ideas came from work on healthcare the clintons &
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:18 AM
Sep 2013

other Americans concerned about healthcare for us all did. plus many other countries have good healthcare for all their citizens. Some probably came from that work.

Not sure because Romney got rid of ALL his state computer records but his 'romneycare' policy probably had parts taken from Clinton work too.

Or maybe insurance lobbyists did some of the work so they could be close to some of the profits.



Have you checked the White House website? If you go back to the first days of 'Obama care' I bet records are there. just search "Affordable Health Care Act" and you can see and read the act.

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
19. Suniel, I think I must be having
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:15 PM
Sep 2013

a bad brain day. I say that because of 2 concussions I had last year. I did not even think of visiting the White House website. I feel like such a . Thank you for your help.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
7. Good luck finding the definitive answer to that...
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:23 AM
Sep 2013

You likely won't be hearing the real story about all the lobbyists involved.

BTW here's the first precursor to the PPACA that was introduced into Congress under Obama:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Affordable_Health_Choices_Act_of_2009

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. Bob Dole originally proposed the plan back in the last century. The Heritage Foundation
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:27 AM
Sep 2013

adopted it as a Republican plan for health care being it's all insurance company friendly. Don't remember the exact dates. Mitt Romney got it adopted in Massachusetts when he was governor. Hillarycare was also a version of it.

This begs the question as to the motives of the Republicans hating it now that our New Democratic President got it passed.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
11. The main difference between what Hillary came up with and the Republican's counter
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 12:44 PM
Sep 2013

proposal was Hillary want Business to be the one's responsible for providing Health Care Insurance and Republicans wanted the onus to be on the individual..hence individual mandate. Now that is what they say they are so opposed to. It always amazes me how the Hypocrisy never gets presented to their faces and asked for explanations...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
22. The M$M works for the same paymasters; otherwise
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:20 PM
Sep 2013

in a real country with a strong independent media that question would have been asked from the beginning.

"Why don't Republicans support a healthcare law that was created by the Heritage Foundation and used in Mass. by Mittens...who last time I checked ran for POTUS as a republican?"

Yeah can't let the masses in on the rank lie, that would expose everything.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
29. Thank you for making this thread.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 12:21 AM
Sep 2013

We should always be asking why the M$M won't cover topics that are important to the people of the country! Just because some questions are impalpable, does not make them any less truthful.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
10. It was written by the Heritage Foundation
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:42 AM
Sep 2013

at the request of Senator Dole in response to Hillary & Bill Clinton's plan.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
14. Here's a clue:
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 03:20 PM
Sep 2013
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/318577-architects-of-obamacare-reap-windfall-as-washington-lobbyists

ObamaCare's architects reap windfall as Washington lobbyists
By Megan R. Wilson - 08/25/13 12:06 PM ET

ObamaCare has become big business for an elite network of Washington lobbyists and consultants who helped shape the law from the inside.

More than 30 former administration officials, lawmakers and congressional staffers who worked on the healthcare law have set up shop on K Street since 2010.

Major lobbying firms such as Fierce, Isakowitz & Blalock, The Glover Park Group, Alston & Bird, BGR Group and Akin Gump can all boast an Affordable Care Act insider on their lobbying roster — putting them in a prime position to land coveted clients.

“When [Vice President] Biden leaned over [during the signing of the healthcare law] and said to [President] Obama, ‘This is a big f'n deal,’ ” said Ivan Adler, a headhunter at the McCormick Group, “he was right.”

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
21. Thank you to everyone who answered
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:17 PM
Sep 2013

I have bookmarked your information in a folder I have for the ACA.

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
23. Here's what Wiki says
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:24 PM
Sep 2013
The health insurance mandate in the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is an idea hatched in 1989 by Stuart M. Butler at Heritage in a publication titled "Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans".[20] This was also the model for Mitt Romney's health care plan in Massachusetts. [21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_foundation#Policy_influence


How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate
Avik Roy 10/20/2011

Heritage did put forward the idea of an individual mandate, though it predated HillaryCare by several years. We know this because we were there: In 1988-90, we were employed at Heritage as a public relations associate (a junior writer and editor), and we wrote at least one press release for a publication touting Heritage’s plan for comprehensive legislation to provide universal “quality, affordable health care.”


http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservative-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

The paper that started it all

Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans
October 1, 1989
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assuring-affordable-health-care-for-all-americans

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
24. Wow is about all I can say but
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:29 PM
Sep 2013

not wow in a good way. Thank you. All of this information is making my head spin.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
31. A friend of mine keeps saying:
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:34 PM
Sep 2013

How does Congress and Obama preside over a real economic recovery when consumer purchasing power is redirected to insurance company profits?

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
27. Countless meetings between Rahm Emanuel and various Execs of Big Health Insurers
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:39 PM
Sep 2013

Then in the end, he and Liz Fowler (who had been "in the industry" prior to summer of 2009), those two finished up the legalese and passed it off to someone over at the House of representatives.

Rahm Emanuel will never have to worry about campaign contribution as long as he lives.

Liz Fowler was given a top spot at one of the Biggest Insurers in order to properly thank her for her efforts.

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
32. Once again thanks
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 05:20 PM
Oct 2013

other friends in my real world have asked this same question and I send them here to DU. Hopefully some of them have become new DUers.

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