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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:11 AM Sep 2013

Except For The Fact That He Beat Them Twice-Conservatives Really DON'T have Any Reason To Hate Obama

The Precious

Except for the fact that he beat them twice, conservative really don't have any reason to hate Obama. "Obamacare" is just the Heritage Foundation health care plan, aka Romneycare, and otherwise, uh, what?

I'm not making the argument that Obama is just like a Republican, just making the point that he really hasn't given them much to work with. They've seized on Obamacare because it's the big legislative accomplishment, but they're mostly incoherent (or lying) about why it makes them so bad. It's just the thing they've chosen to rally behind because they really don't have anything else.

I suppose there's Benghazi!
by Atrios
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2013/09/the-precious.html

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Except For The Fact That He Beat Them Twice-Conservatives Really DON'T have Any Reason To Hate Obama (Original Post) kpete Sep 2013 OP
Comment from Atrios- House Republicans practicing 'Stand Your Ground"? KittyWampus Sep 2013 #1
Seems like it's all just theater n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #2
They have TWO reasons SoCalDem Sep 2013 #3
^^ This ^^ Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #4
One reason: short-term profits of certain key contributors are threatened. Orsino Sep 2013 #5
Liberals Hood Winked Into Accepting The Heritage Foundation's Romneycare (a.k.a. Obamacare) mazzarro Sep 2013 #6
They are upset because the Massachusetts legislature (85% Democratic) would not pass pampango Sep 2013 #7
My Bad - Thanks For The Clarification mazzarro Sep 2013 #8
"depoliticized polarization" it's called in Honduras MisterP Sep 2013 #9
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
1. Comment from Atrios- House Republicans practicing 'Stand Your Ground"?
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:16 AM
Sep 2013

"Here's an analogy for you.

The Republicans are similar to G. Zimmerman by provoking government shutdown and then blaming the Democrats for it and any bad that results from it."

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. One reason: short-term profits of certain key contributors are threatened.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:35 AM
Sep 2013

This was the only real reason, ever. Race and party affiliation are just window dressing, useful for rallying the rubes.

mazzarro

(3,450 posts)
6. Liberals Hood Winked Into Accepting The Heritage Foundation's Romneycare (a.k.a. Obamacare)
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 01:24 PM
Sep 2013

If some ways, I feel like we have been played by the Heritage Foundation into fighting for A.C.A. when this was the foundations brain child. Yes in many ways it is far better than the current system but, far less than Hillarycare or the ultimate single payer that liberals want - i.e. Medicare.

So, if one looks at it that way, then the Heritage Foundation and the reThugs have really won this war - we are fighting on their grounds - so to speak. Their anger maybe because liberals have no cried "uncle" yet to give them the satisfaction they crave for.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. They are upset because the Massachusetts legislature (85% Democratic) would not pass
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 01:32 PM
Sep 2013

the HF concept as introduced by romney. Those dang Democrats insisted on reworking mitt's proposal to such a extent that he vetoed the resulting bill. Democrats then overrode his veto with ease.

The irony - romney vetoed Romneycare and the Democratic legislature passed it over his veto.

mazzarro

(3,450 posts)
8. My Bad - Thanks For The Clarification
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 01:55 PM
Sep 2013

So Romneycare is actually a Democratic modified version of HF original corporate version. The modification must have been severe and serious that HF is now totally rejecting anything to do with it. So there lies the source of anger and venom spewing forth from reThugs and Teahadists.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
9. "depoliticized polarization" it's called in Honduras
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 02:23 PM
Sep 2013

and Argentinean, New York, and Chicagoan politics were the bloodiest in the 19th c., in periods when there was the least difference between parties (vacuous, content-free parties have the largest need to distinguish themselves from the Perfidious Other Guy)

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