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Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:11 PM

 

FDR vs. Obama: can you guess which quote was whose?

Since there's another post claiming that Obama and FDR are pretty different people, I thought I'd provide this fun little exercise.

Don't feel bad if these are almost impossible! Very tough to tell them apart (without a photograph or sound recording, of course).

Which one said which of the following:

1. "the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men...They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers."

2. Referring to the extraordinary compensation of two contemporary bank presidents after they were bailed out by taxpayer money: “I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen... I, like most of the American people, don’t begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free-market system.”

3. “I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”

4. “There's not a liberal America and a conservative America - there's the United States of America.”

5. “A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward.”

6. “What Washington Needs is Adult Supervision.”

7. “At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized, at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do, it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.”

8. "There is nothing I love as much as a good fight."

Bonus question: both presidents wanted to be known for their efforts on Social Security. What was the subtle difference in what they said hoped to accomplish in this regard?

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MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 OP
longship Oct 2013 #1
MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #3
nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #7
longship Oct 2013 #9
nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #10
longship Oct 2013 #11
nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #12
longship Oct 2013 #13
nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #15
dionysus Oct 2013 #2
NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #4
MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #5
Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #6
longship Oct 2013 #8
Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #19
Euphoria Oct 2013 #14
MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #16
truebluegreen Oct 2013 #17
eomer Oct 2013 #20
truebluegreen Oct 2013 #23
cui bono Oct 2013 #18
LWolf Oct 2013 #21
QC Oct 2013 #22

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:22 PM

1. Hmm! My guesses.

1. FDR. - iconic FDR like quote. 30's?
2. Obama - two bailed out bank presidents?
3. FDR! - Obama would never say this, FDR would.
4. Obama - terminology is modern.
5. FDR. - he had zero good legs.
6. Obama. - after GWB, classic Obama.
7. Obama. - too verbose.
8. FDR. - no way is this Obama.

No, I did not Google them, so all the mistakes are mine alone.

Fun!

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Response to longship (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:29 PM

3. You go to the head of the class!

 

100%

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Response to longship (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:45 PM

7. I got it... phew, I pay too much attention to this crap I fear

 

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:52 PM

9. Oh, Nadine, you find it just as fun.


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Response to longship (Reply #9)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:54 PM

10. I get to go to your local city council

 

and watch them argue over easements.

Now that is quite riveting!

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:59 PM

11. I don't live in a city, my friend.

It's the Manistee National Forest here. And it's going to be a miserable and cold winter here soon. And me without a snow plow.

As long as Soc Sec pays enough to keep me in heating oil, keep the electricity on, and provide food, I'm good. A tank of gasoline once in a while wouldn't hurt too badly either.

I used to live in SoCal (Ontario) but had some dear friends in San Diego. Say hello to them all for me, will you?

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Response to longship (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:01 PM

12. I will,

 

And me just looking at the agenda. Some of it tomorrow is of interest to me. But not to the boss. So City TV for me and save the trolley fare

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:06 PM

13. I wish I had a trolley. Dirt roads here.

D'ya suppose they could put trolleys in here? The deer might object... Or the coyotes... Or the black bear... Or the cougars... etc. The raccoons won't give a fuck either way.

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Response to longship (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:18 PM

15. You will get it

 

When we cover a night fire in the back country, we let other media take lead. They work well as deer detectors.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:27 PM

2. try harder manny. nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:31 PM

4. 2, 4, 6, 7, are Obama, I think. nt

 

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:32 PM

5. You're tied for first place

 

At 100%

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:44 PM

6. These don't seem to be proving the point you want to make.

The first two responses are correct; they are the same responses I made in ticking through the list.

They really don't seem to be that tough to tell apart - certainly not nearly impossible...

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:50 PM

8. Well, one has to think about it.

One has to know the history and context of both of their presidencies.

It was fun teasing out the differences in the rhetoric, which is all one has in such exercises. Fortunately I have a lot of FDR speeches on audio, and have read much on WWII history which includes much on him.

Don't criticize, please.

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Response to longship (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 06:17 AM

19. My background includes avoiding history like the plague

and the quotes seemed easily identifiable, to me. I literally just went down the line and ticked them off (and discovered there were already two answers posted with the same correct list).

And since Manny's point seemed to be they are so similar it would be difficult to tell them apart, the exercise doesn't really seem to support that point.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:09 PM

14. un-googled guesses

I'm thinking that FDR quotes are 1, 3, 5, 8

bonus question - subtle difference is that FDR wanted to create a means for all to have security in their old age, the time after they cannot work. Pres Obama wants to lessen social security payouts. But that's just my "take" on it.

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Response to Euphoria (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:20 PM

16. 100% and the bonus!

 

Well done!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 12:30 AM

17. Personally, I think your post proves Obama and FDR were "pretty different:"

 

the quotes were very easy to distinguish. Wasn't that your point?

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 06:25 AM

20. His point was the opposite of what he said - it was sarcasm.

Or irony, if you prefer.

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Response to eomer (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 08:13 AM

23. That's what I thought..but his responses to previous posters threw me.

 

Thanks.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 12:40 AM

18. Ooh! I know! I know!

1. "the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men...They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers."

Jamie Dimon


2. Referring to the extraordinary compensation of two contemporary bank presidents after they were bailed out by taxpayer money: “I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen... I, like most of the American people, don’t begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free-market system.”

Gordon Gecko


3. “I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”

Dick Cheney


4. “There's not a liberal America and a conservative America - there's the United States of America.”

Ted Cruz


5. “A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward.”

Michelle Bachman


6. “What Washington Needs is Adult Supervision.”

Justin Bieber


7. “At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized, at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do, it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.”

Dr. Phil


8. "There is nothing I love as much as a good fight."

Obama


Bonus question: both presidents wanted to be known for their efforts on Social Security. What was the subtle difference in what they said hoped to accomplish in this regard?

One of them wants free lollipops for every doctor visit.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 07:21 AM

21. Sure.

FDR: 1, 3, 5, 8. Obama the rest.

SS? I'm not sure about their words, although I wouldn't call the difference in their positions "subtle," lol. One wanted to make sure everybody had it; the other wants to reduce it.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 07:24 AM

22. Oh sure, but FDR has 946 extreme liberals in the Congress

and the ruling class adored him.

Totally different situations, bro.

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