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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/11/01/60-minutes-benghazi-report-takes-a-huge-credibi/196705The Benghazi "witness" featured in a CBS 60 Minutes report that galvanized new discussion of the administration's response to the attack previously said he never got near the diplomatic compound on the night of the attack, according to a report from The Washington Post.
The revelation comes just days after Fox News reported that they had previously been using the same man as a source, but broke contact after he asked the network for money. Two days after the CBS report aired, Threshold Editions, an imprint of Simon and Schuster that "specializes in conservative non-fiction," published the supposed witness' book, The Embassy House: The Explosive Eyewitness Account of the Libyan Embassy Siege by the Soldier Who Was There. According to the Post, the book "largely comports with the 60 Minutes account."
Together, these details paint a damning picture of the credibility of the supposed eyewitness -- and that of the CBS report which promoted his story.
And yes people should be fired for reporting this non-story. I still remember what happened to Dan Rather - and he told the truth!!
kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)I'm even more surprised CBS still stands by this steaming pile of "journalism." I thought Lara Logan was actually a decent reporter, but they obviously didn't follow-up on this asshole's background and credibility at all. What a joke. I'm now deleting 60 Minutes from my DVR recording list.
deminks
(11,013 posts)(snip)
But according to the Post, "Jones," whose real name was confirmed as Dylan Davies, revealed none of those details in the incident report to his security contractor employer that he wrote following the attack. Instead, he wrote that he never got near the compound that night and learned of Stevens' death from a colleague. From the Post:
In Davies's 21 / 2-page incident report to Blue Mountain, the Britain-based contractor hired by the State Department to handle perimeter security at the compound, he wrote that he spent most of that night at his Benghazi beach-side villa. Although he attempted to get to the compound, he wrote in the report, "we could not get anywhere near . . . as roadblocks had been set up."
He learned of Stevens's death, Davies wrote, when a Libyan colleague who had been at the hospital came to the villa to show him a cellphone picture of the ambassador's blackened corpse. Davies wrote that he visited the still-smoking compound the next day to view and photograph the destruction.
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and there is this:
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The 60 Minutes report, which also attempted to revive the long-answered "lingering question" about why no U.S. military forces from outside Libya came to the aid of Americans in the compound, was widely praised by conservative media and received 47 minutes of coverage on Fox News the day after it aired. In response to the CBS segment, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said he would block the confirmations of all administration nominees until Benghazi witnesses testify to Congress.
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If the GOPers can't find the scandal they need, they manufacture one. So, where are the calls for GOPer heads? for MEdia heads?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)spanone
(135,781 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)Do the math.
Figures that the pointless & hypocritical Benghazi blather is arising from a Republicon grasping after cashmoneybucks.
mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)Troopergate
PaulaJonesgate
Filegate
Monicagate.
They all wanted money for their lies...
Berlum
(7,044 posts)...and they wonder why Americans no longer trust them.
Atman
(31,464 posts)I thought they all hated CBS anyway. Why should anyone be surprised that CBS used a bad source, right GOP?
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)with some visiting Rethug family members. I was appalled by that program as it gave my relatives a chance to say, "Told you so". We had just been discussing Benghazi and I said Rethugs were making a mountain out of a mole hill. Then to watch that program...embarrassing!
Now they are not here to see they were wrong...again!
meegbear
(25,438 posts)It's all in the ratings.
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)DallasNE
(7,402 posts)Indeed, it was the top rated show on television. But that was a long time ago. The topics they covered changed and were less interesting. By the time of the Dan Rather report on Bush's National Guard service I rarely watched it and in fact that episode is the last time I watched 60 Minutes. The accuracy in media issue is a serious one and has been with us for several years now. Meet The Press is the new poster boy for this. And the selection of guests on Sunday talk has had a strong Republican bias for at least a decade. David Gregory, Jonathan Karl and Chuck Todd stand out as openly partisan hacks, along with all of Fox News. Junk reporting is a fact of life and I don't expect anything to change in that regard any time soon, sadly.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,081 posts)KEEP AN EYE OUT . . . . . Threshold Editions, an imprint of Simon and Schuster, specializes in a brand new genre:
"conservative non-fiction".
deminks
(11,013 posts)I wait for the first work with anticipation. /sarcasm off.
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)lastlib
(23,140 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)JHB
(37,152 posts)Authors include Glenn Beck, Karl Rove, Jerome R. Corsi, Mark R. Levin, David Kupelian, Lynne Cheney, Arthur B. Laffer, Mary Cheney, Jerry Doyle, Reid Buckley, Brian Jennings, George Melloan, Burton W. Folsom, and Stephen Moore.
And on http://www.matalin.info/
frylock
(34,825 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,081 posts)deminks
(11,013 posts)So, why does Lindsay Graham, R-Woo, now use this new fabricated account to base his decision to block Obama's nominees? Hmm? He must have known about the incident report with a totally different story for months now? Hmmm?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Issa and his group of goons had witnesses testify in person who were in another country and the corporate media assured their credibility for a na-no second.
What the GOPers are good at is propaganda. Get the BS out there in the main stream media and lets see where the shit hits.
NealK
(1,850 posts)"The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they're being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/13-benghazis-that-occurre_b_3246847.html
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,710 posts)deminks
(11,013 posts)if, you know, everyone was so concerned about AQ in the area and Obama wasn't helping them? /sarcasm off
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)mentioned it on Morning Joe this a.m.
I recall watching the episode and thinking that his story sounds incredible based on other reports I had read. Now we know it's a complete fabrication. Also the guy is now in the hospital. Such incredible bullshit that gets aired with no fact checking being done. CBS should be ashamed and needs to answer for this.
7962
(11,841 posts)You'd think CBS wouldve looked into his backround. And I wonder if they paid him, since he wanted money from FOX.
benld74
(9,901 posts)SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)I posted here at DU in the minutes after that 60 minutes episode aired how fishy the timing was with Cheney's comments about Benghazi and the smear campaign that started on social media immediately after the show aired.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023933590
The night that Benhazi happened Rove was interviewed somewhere and he said they had wanted to wait to make comments because it was almost 9/11 in the US and they didn't want to disrespect the memory of that event. His comments were so suspect and Romney's weird statement before any solid information was able to come out was just too strange and convenient.
I'm sorry, I don't have a link - I watched it somewhere as it was happening but don't remember the source. My husband is a channel surfer who goes from station to station during events like that but I imagine it was Fox. I've searched many times for any footage of Rove on Fox news in the early minutes of the news of the attack but I have never been able to find anything.
I just have a feeling that Benghazi would have been very easy for someone with Cheney's connections to orchestrate and then he'd try to use it to keep Obama from being reelected. That didn't work so now its purpose is to drive a nail into any thoughts of H. Clinton running for office.
deminks
(11,013 posts)Mr. Jeff Fager
Chairman, CBS News
Mr. David Rhodes
President, CBS News
Greetings,
I am writing to express my concern about a 60 Minutes segment on the attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi that CBS aired on October 27. As Media Matters for America noted earlier in the week, the segment revived long-answered questions about the attack and, even more troubling, a Fox News correspondent said that he had spoken to one of the witnesses interviewed "a number of times" about the attacks but stopped after the man "asked for money."
Today, The Washington Post revealed that the very same witness previously said he never got near the diplomatic compound the night of the attack. This completely contradicts what was reported on air by correspondent Lara Logan, who said that during the attack, the witness "scaled the twelve-foot high wall of the compound that was still overrun with al Qaeda fighters." In the interview, the witness told Logan he had personally struck one of those terrorists in the face with his rifle butt and, following the attack, he went to the Benghazi hospital and saw Ambassador Chris Stevens' body.
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A network spokesman told the Post, 'We stand firmly by the story we broadcast last Sunday." This is not sufficient. When questions were raised about documents involving President George W. Bush's service in the Air National Guard, CBS appointed an independent panel "to help determine what errors occurred in the preparation of the report and what actions need to be taken." Similar standards must be applied in this case.
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Tarheel_Dem
(31,220 posts)RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)This story and the horrible story about people on Disability make me physically ill about 60 Minutes. It used to be a reputable source for honest reporting. Mike Wallace and Don Hewitt are gone and the show has lost all credibility. Just disgusting in my book!
Democrats_win
(6,539 posts)I wonder if, in standing by their report, they can smell the BS.
Rex
(65,616 posts)FUCK anyone that would fire Dan Rather for political reasons!
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Media Matters Founder Calling on 60 Minutes to Retract Report on Benghazi
60 Minutes did a new, in-depth report on the attack at the American consulate in Benghazi last year, and it helped to revitalize the national debate over the attack. CBSs report featured an exclusive with a man who recounted what he witnessed, but Media Matters founder David Brock is calling on 60 Minutes to retract the report for a big error.
The key criticism here surrounds the man identified in the report as Morgan Jones (though his real name was confirmed as Dylan Davies afterwards). He told 60 Minutes he was witness to the attack, and described what he saw around him, but a Washington Post report on Thursday says that does not match his earlier testimony on the matter, just three days after the attack on the compound.
In Daviess 21 / 2-page incident report to Blue Mountain, the Britain-based contractor hired by the State Department to handle perimeter security at the compound, he wrote that he spent most of that night at his Benghazi beach-side villa. Although he attempted to get to the compound, he wrote in the report, we could not get anywhere near . . . as roadblocks had been set up.
He learned of Stevenss death, Davies wrote, when a Libyan colleague who had been at the hospital came to the villa to show him a cellphone picture of the ambassadors blackened corpse. Davies wrote that he visited the still-smoking compound the next day to view and photograph the destruction.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/media-matters-founder-calling-on-60-minutes-to-retract-report-on-benghazi/
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The story is very strange. Maybe there is more than has been discovered thus far. .
He needs to answer questions in public. Otherwise why should anyone believe any of his stories?
Uncle Joe
(58,270 posts)Thanks for the thread, RockaFowler.
SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...since most of the ''news'' today is manufactured pap anyway. Hell, even Greta Van Whatshername pwned these suckers.
- You know it must chap the collective CBS ass to have Faux News (and Xenu-follower) showing them up for the frauds that they are.....
K&R
But food stamps take a cut.....
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts).
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Isn't this clear?
ReRe
(10,597 posts)K&R
60 Minutes is one show I never watch, let alone anything else on CBS (unless it's a local basketball game!)
A boot to the head of CBS' 60 Minutes.
frog64
(40 posts)This ought to help Hill. She needs it right now.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Better things to do with my time than watch right-wing schills try to manufacture outrage by made up stories and outright in-your-face lies, all while protecting war criminals.