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How did today's Food Stamp Cut become law? (Original Post) cthulu2016 Nov 2013 OP
Yes, a 'pay-for,' elleng Nov 2013 #1
temporary boost from 2009 is ending alc Nov 2013 #2
The middle class and the poor are still in recession. This is a betrayal. I can't help but wonder liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #3
It was a temporary increase in Food Stamp funding that expired on November 1, 2013. badtoworse Nov 2013 #4
It was a planned cut. It was most certainly a cut. morningfog Nov 2013 #5
Nope. You're trying to spin this - temporary is temporary badtoworse Nov 2013 #7
The people who are suffering the most in this economy know better. If they want to cut food stamps liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #8
It is absurd. First of all, most people receiving food stamps now weren't when it was increased. morningfog Nov 2013 #10
You're trying to spend this. A reduction is a cut. Period. morningfog Nov 2013 #9
Something expiring is not the same thing as a cut. PlanetaryOrbit Nov 2013 #12
the need is still there, therefore they should extend it, not let it expire. Letting it expire is liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #13
Well, then, look at it this way. PlanetaryOrbit Nov 2013 #14
You're new! woo me with science Nov 2013 #17
A reduction is a cut. Period. This isn't complicated. morningfog Nov 2013 #19
yeah, tell that to those who survive on food stamps. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #6
+1 Tax cuts for the rich never seem to expire leftstreet Nov 2013 #15
exactly. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #18
The chocolate ration is constantly increased! woo me with science Nov 2013 #16
It was in 2010 and it had something to do with the funding of the school nutrition program Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #11

alc

(1,151 posts)
2. temporary boost from 2009 is ending
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 08:42 PM
Nov 2013

Part of the 2009 recovery act was to increase benefits temporarily and that is expiring.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3899

One of the reasons some governors (mostly R) refused some recovery money was because they knew they'd be accused of cutting programs when the federal money expired. (not food stamps, but other programs)

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
3. The middle class and the poor are still in recession. This is a betrayal. I can't help but wonder
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:15 PM
Nov 2013

which democrats voted for this. They will not get my vote.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
4. It was a temporary increase in Food Stamp funding that expired on November 1, 2013.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:35 PM
Nov 2013

That was the deal. Nobody cut anything.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
7. Nope. You're trying to spin this - temporary is temporary
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:48 PM
Nov 2013

The bill was passed with a definite sunset date on which funding returns to the baseline level. Had the baseline been reduced, I'd agreee it was a cut. In this case, the commitment to provide increased funding was not open-ended - it had an end date and it has been reached.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
8. The people who are suffering the most in this economy know better. If they want to cut food stamps
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:49 PM
Nov 2013

then they need to increase funding for education and increase wages, so that people won't need the food stamps. Until then they should not be cutting food stamps.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
10. It is absurd. First of all, most people receiving food stamps now weren't when it was increased.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:52 PM
Nov 2013

And, EVERYONE on them now depends on them. Every dollar worth. To them and in reality, it is a cut.

PlanetaryOrbit

(155 posts)
12. Something expiring is not the same thing as a cut.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 11:33 PM
Nov 2013

A cut means an actual reduction. Say a government agency has a budget of $10 billion a year. If you reduce that to $8 billion a year, then you've cut its budget.


If, however, you temporarily raise it to $13 billion a year, and then, after a few years, revert back to the original $10 billion budget, that's not exactly a cut, that's simply the expiration of a temporary raise.


liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
13. the need is still there, therefore they should extend it, not let it expire. Letting it expire is
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 11:38 PM
Nov 2013

the same thing as cutting it. You can try to spin it all you want but those who depend on it know better.

PlanetaryOrbit

(155 posts)
14. Well, then, look at it this way.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 12:01 AM
Nov 2013

Let's say some conservative administration cut welfare spending from, say, $50 billion to $40 billion.

Then, years later, some liberal administration restored the welfare to its pre-cut levels, back to $50 billion.

What would you think of some conservative pundit who criticizes the liberals for their "$10 billion increase in welfare spending?"

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
6. yeah, tell that to those who survive on food stamps.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:42 PM
Nov 2013

The 1% are the only ones who are out of the recession. The middle class and the poor are still in recession.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
16. The chocolate ration is constantly increased!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 12:06 AM
Nov 2013

Just like the ranks of the corporate talking point posters at DU!

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
11. It was in 2010 and it had something to do with the funding of the school nutrition program
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:56 PM
Nov 2013
http://markbittman.com/senate-passes-child-nutrition-bill/

I remember reading protests over it then, but the counter was that this would never happen, except of course it did.

More stuff here:
http://www.dpc.senate.gov/dpcdoc.cfm?doc_name=lb-111-2-134
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