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I HATE CHRISTMAS!!!! (Original Post) gopiscrap Nov 2013 OP
Is it time to start the war already? treestar Nov 2013 #1
Christmas decorations are in the stores - it's not too early to start the war! csziggy Nov 2013 #2
thank you gopiscrap Nov 2013 #4
You're welcome - and I hate Christmas, too! csziggy Nov 2013 #5
I started in December of 1943 russspeakeasy Nov 2013 #38
IMO... pipi_k Nov 2013 #97
At the rate the retailers are working, Christmas will never end csziggy Nov 2013 #103
The Macy's near me is already decorated for christmas by late September. Beacool Nov 2013 #107
Wow - I'd be really tired of Christmas well before Thanksgiving! csziggy Nov 2013 #109
I went on a warm day in late September one year and I noticed the decorations. Beacool Nov 2013 #112
I was thinking that by Halloween, I'd be really surly csziggy Nov 2013 #113
Yeah, those poor employees. Beacool Nov 2013 #115
around here they didn't even wait LiberalElite Nov 2013 #111
War is over. Christmas lost. New shutdown in Feburary. nt tsuki Nov 2013 #104
K & R because LeftofObama Nov 2013 #3
Even if no one expressed an opinion like yours Cirque du So-What Nov 2013 #6
exactly, that's why I hate it! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #7
My favorite piece of music for the season... 2naSalit Nov 2013 #127
Great! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #128
I thought you would 2naSalit Nov 2013 #133
Just commercial crap- ruffburr Nov 2013 #21
Independent stores who sell “made in USA” and fair trade items ... busterbrown Nov 2013 #61
you know we could be giving to progressive causes and candidates gopiscrap Nov 2013 #71
People don’t need steaks or roasts.. busterbrown Nov 2013 #123
actually I only buy clothes when they totally wear out gopiscrap Nov 2013 #124
a lot of people do that. busterbrown Nov 2013 #129
what's a hobby? gopiscrap Nov 2013 #130
I’m thinking you have a garage full of tools... busterbrown Nov 2013 #132
nope I hate fucking around with tools gopiscrap Nov 2013 #135
Good...What websites do you hit? n/t busterbrown Nov 2013 #136
all hat no cattle daily kos and this one gopiscrap Nov 2013 #137
Hardly bastions of right wing political persuasion busterbrown Nov 2013 #138
would never go to a right wing site gopiscrap Nov 2013 #139
I do.. To fuck with them big time. busterbrown Nov 2013 #140
silly me Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #77
If it was just the food and family,- ruffburr Nov 2013 #102
It's a #WarOnThanksgiving. n/t Gore1FL Nov 2013 #57
Is your heart two sizes too small? hfojvt Nov 2013 #8
yup gopiscrap Nov 2013 #9
I like to celebrate my yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #10
OMG gopiscrap Nov 2013 #12
:D yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #20
! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #48
Thank you! Now I know what I'm giving for Christmas! Chicken! Buns_of_Fire Nov 2013 #53
You must be fun to be around, RC Nov 2013 #62
I'm better than I used to be. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2013 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #54
Great Zoth! ChazInAz Nov 2013 #68
Better book by 30 November shaayecanaan Nov 2013 #87
here. yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #91
Oh , okay... shaayecanaan Nov 2013 #94
Heh.. yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #96
I just ask the wife... shaayecanaan Nov 2013 #99
Awesome! yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #100
I have four more gifts to buy, two to make .... and I'm done !!! polly7 Nov 2013 #11
putting up lights is a waste of electricity! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #13
I only put a string around my tree and the big window it sits in, now. polly7 Nov 2013 #18
Bah humbug, Ebenezer. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #19
Put your Bah Humbug on your tree! HangOnKids Nov 2013 #131
... nolabear Nov 2013 #69
And your point is? Beacool Nov 2013 #110
Um, for a lot of people . . . Brigid Nov 2013 #27
You are the type of person that people hate!!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #108
LOL I know! polly7 Nov 2013 #114
Naaahhh, you are just super organized. Beacool Nov 2013 #116
Awww ..... well you're a lot nicer person than me, I don't send or give cards to nearly that many polly7 Nov 2013 #117
I didn't even remember to mention the people from church, there go another bunch of cards. Beacool Nov 2013 #119
Wow. You are a VERY kind person, and I'm sure all of those you send your cards to polly7 Nov 2013 #120
Ha, ha, ha, those cards must have been fun to read!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #125
I have to share a secret about one of those cards, polly7 Nov 2013 #145
Thanks, they were tasty. Beacool Nov 2013 #147
That's nice . . . Journeyman Nov 2013 #14
Me too. fadedrose Nov 2013 #28
I love Christmas, but only when it happens after Thanksgiving. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #15
Lounge material. Motown_Johnny Nov 2013 #16
I've always loved seeing my kids and frogmarch Nov 2013 #17
Gorgeous! nt polly7 Nov 2013 #23
One thing I love about Christmas... Earth_First Nov 2013 #22
Only the crass commercialism... I love the lights, decorations, snow and HOPEFULLY hlthe2b Nov 2013 #24
The lights... pipi_k Nov 2013 #98
for me the only saving part of Christmas is the paid day off and extra income from singing gopiscrap Nov 2013 #101
WELCOME, FELLOW LIBERALS, TO THE WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! backscatter712 Nov 2013 #25
Last time it got ugly when he sent his forces against the supreme court.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #72
Hannukah is the same day as Thanksgiving this year. What's is this Christmas you speak of? mucifer Nov 2013 #26
I love the winter solstice here in the Northwest. I'm originally from TX. I have never liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #30
I'm in the NW too and there are A LOT of Solstice parties that go on. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #75
I'm with you. Iggo Nov 2013 #29
I hate how stores are advertising holiday deals earlier and earlier now. Initech Nov 2013 #31
I saw my first ad three days before halloween. So wrong. tridim Nov 2013 #32
I dislike hate. Christmas? Bah; humbug! nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #33
Christmas is a spotlight on the vast differences between the haves and the have nots. searchingforlight Nov 2013 #34
I'm enjoying being the parents of older children. You don't have to buy as many presents. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #41
I hate people who waste my time with posts that say nothing... brooklynite Nov 2013 #35
I LOVE Christmas, but I don't watch TV, don't live in a town, and don't shop much. Zorra Nov 2013 #36
this is how it should be! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #51
It's the most wonderful time of the year... NealK Nov 2013 #37
Change your clocks tonight...n/t monmouth3 Nov 2013 #39
Thanks for the reminder! Iggo Nov 2013 #65
you will be visited by 3 spirits :P PatrynXX Nov 2013 #40
As long as the spirits are Jack Daniels, Jose Cuervo, and Jim Beam, that's cool. Liberal Veteran Nov 2013 #43
Good one! Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #76
+1 deucemagnet Nov 2013 #42
They can't even wait until after Thanksgiving BainsBane Nov 2013 #44
The power of Christmas compels you, the power of Christmas compels you. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #45
Saw my first Xmas themed commercial 2 days BEFORE Halloween. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #46
then don't celebrate it ajk2821 Nov 2013 #47
Can we at least finish hating Thanksgiving, First? Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #49
I love Thanksgiving gopiscrap Nov 2013 #52
Well then: In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #144
"Simple Gifts" or in lots of hymnals: "Lord of the Dance" gopiscrap Nov 2013 #146
Warren DeMontague Z_California Nov 2013 #55
It's a tough time for many, commercialism or not War Horse Nov 2013 #50
This will be my 45th year hating xmas. graywarrior Nov 2013 #56
gopiscrap Diclotican Nov 2013 #58
I HATE NEW YEARS EVE!!!! Autumn Nov 2013 #59
Christmas is what you make it. Nine Nov 2013 #60
The War on Consumerism Rain Mcloud Nov 2013 #63
We don't celebrate it anymore. Nor Thanksgiving. They are artifacts of the boomersense Nov 2013 #64
I do they perpetuate the greedy, materialist, capitlaistic status quo gopiscrap Nov 2013 #73
Yeah, but everyone's path is different....and we may all meet again boomersense Nov 2013 #79
I wish we would just ban it already... penultimate Nov 2013 #82
thank you I agree gopiscrap Nov 2013 #83
Thanksgiving too... I know you said you like it, but I hate it. penultimate Nov 2013 #85
I like Thanksgiving because there's tons of food, two paid days off and I don't have to do any gopiscrap Nov 2013 #88
That's all the stuff I hate about holidays... penultimate Nov 2013 #90
too Mao lunasun Nov 2013 #118
that's an awful big broadbrush fizzgig Nov 2013 #89
First prisoner taken in "The War On Christmas ™" Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #66
bah... demwing Nov 2013 #67
''What you resist, persists.'' ~Carl Jung n/t DeSwiss Nov 2013 #70
Halloween every night! RosettaStoned77 Nov 2013 #74
June 26, 1870. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #78
The holiday, Si. The commercialism, No. DinahMoeHum Nov 2013 #81
Love it! ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #84
I'm tired of HATE! relayerbob Nov 2013 #86
I don't have a problem with Christmas, but Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #92
Ohh, someone needs a hug. Beacool Nov 2013 #106
Thx Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #121
You're welcome. Beacool Nov 2013 #134
Let me be the first to say xfundy Nov 2013 #93
very nice gopiscrap Nov 2013 #95
Aren't you a little too early with that pronouncement? Beacool Nov 2013 #105
amen n/t riverwalker Nov 2013 #122
Not again BeyondGeography Nov 2013 #126
so do i. DesertFlower Nov 2013 #141
i'm an Atheist and Christmas is my favorite Holiday JI7 Nov 2013 #142
I hate content-free posts in GD! LeftyMom Nov 2013 #143

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
103. At the rate the retailers are working, Christmas will never end
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:26 PM
Nov 2013

Over two weeks ago I was in a store that had two aisles of Halloween stuff, half an aisle of Thanksgiving stuff, and FOUR aisles of Christmas stuff out.

Last year, some of the stores were still selling Christmas decorations - at serious discounts - at the end of January!

My Mom has it figured - she keeps a card up on her fridge that covers every holiday throughout the year. We should just have generic decorations and leave them up all the time.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
107. The Macy's near me is already decorated for christmas by late September.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:37 PM
Nov 2013

I asked once why and was told that their store is used by other Macy stores as the model that they copy. I'm sure that by the time Christmas is over the employees breath a sigh of relief. Three months of Christmas is too much of a good thing.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
112. I went on a warm day in late September one year and I noticed the decorations.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:44 PM
Nov 2013

I asked the saleslady what it was about and she explained it to me. People from other stores come and take notes (every year there's a different theme). Then they go to their respective stores and decorate them accordingly. Can you imagine the poor employees listening to almost 3 months of Christmas music?

I once worked one holiday season at the flagship store in Manhattan. By the time New Year came around I hated The Nutcracker.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
113. I was thinking that by Halloween, I'd be really surly
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:45 PM
Nov 2013

By Black Friday, I'd be completely off the wall. No way I'd last until Christmas!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
115. Yeah, those poor employees.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:50 PM
Nov 2013

In my case I didn't have to listen to it continuously because I wasn't on the main floor. I pity anyone in jewelry, cosmetics, perfume or accessories. The main floor is a circus anyway, but having to listen to The Nutcracker on a loop all day long must have driven them bonkers.

Cirque du So-What

(25,928 posts)
6. Even if no one expressed an opinion like yours
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:06 PM
Nov 2013

O'Really & the rest of his insipid ilk would find an excuse to declare that 'there's a war on Christmas!' I say, hate away! The whole shitaree is a travesty of consumerism and conspicuous consumption anyway.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
127. My favorite piece of music for the season...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:31 PM
Nov 2013

It fits so well in this part of the discussion...

Enjoy!




2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
133. I thought you would
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:38 PM
Nov 2013

appreciate that.

I don't celebrate that holiday and most of the others for the same reasons, including Hallwe'en. Although, when I'm with other people and they start wishing each other "Happy (insert a holiday here)" to each other, I wish them Happy Hallowe'en for all of them.

It's just part of my charm.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
21. Just commercial crap-
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:20 PM
Nov 2013

I Have a rule about x-mas I only buy the deals after the holiday and if your over 14 santa died, It is all about guilt-ing people into buying other people crap to add to the corps bottom line on an annual basis, Pretty Jaded I guess, But the truth is in front of our face.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
61. Independent stores who sell “made in USA” and fair trade items ...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:59 PM
Nov 2013

should be patronized. Help local artisans, helps the economy!!

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
71. you know we could be giving to progressive causes and candidates
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:32 PM
Nov 2013

instead of buy shit that people don't need. When we give stuff, we teach our kids to be materialists.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
123. People don’t need steaks or roasts..
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:22 PM
Nov 2013

but occasionally its nice to have a treat.. Bringing a nice candle or bottle of wine to someone who invites you to a dinner is not excessive materialism.. You could shut down your cable, never go to the movies and never treat yourself to a new sweater because you have 3 perfectly good ones... Sounds boring to me..

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
129. a lot of people do that.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:34 PM
Nov 2013

but I know that you treat yourself somehow...With you I believe its with a hobby.

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
135. nope I hate fucking around with tools
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:41 PM
Nov 2013

my hobby is flipping off republicans and drawing them into arguments and watching them sputter!

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
139. would never go to a right wing site
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:49 PM
Nov 2013

in fact I avoid republicans in general. My wife's family votes republican and we haven't seen them in 33 years.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
77. silly me
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:41 PM
Nov 2013

all these years I thought it was about familyand spending time with those you care about. And baking lots of fresh baking yummy.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
102. If it was just the food and family,-
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:08 PM
Nov 2013

Then it would be in the intention of the holiday, Let me add that I do love the food and x-mas "Spirits"along with family and friends,Never the less I refuse to participate in the corp/commercial orgy of profit in the guise of a "religious" holiday, Sorry I know I'm a grinch but thats how i see it.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
53. Thank you! Now I know what I'm giving for Christmas! Chicken!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:40 PM
Nov 2013

As a matter of fact, I drove up to KFC a little while ago and bought a bucketful. I've spent the last hour or so picking out the very BEST pieces and wrapping them up individually in BEAUTIFUL boxes (bow and everything!) for the people on my list.

Oh, how happy they'll be when they open them in 50 days or so! (I hope this will make up for the year I gave everyone a pair of surgical gloves and a tube of K-Y Jelly.)

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
80. I'm better than I used to be.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:50 PM
Nov 2013

Now, I don't even string the barbed wire until after the fifteenth of December. Getting soft in my old age, I guess.

Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #10)

ChazInAz

(2,564 posts)
68. Great Zoth!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:18 PM
Nov 2013

What have we done to Japan? (Interesting that Colonel Sanders looks vaguely Asian in that rendition.)

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
87. Better book by 30 November
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:59 PM
Nov 2013

or no party barrel for you.

What is your sig line saying by the way? Help me to step on various walls is as close as I can get.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
91. here.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:04 PM
Nov 2013
I always make so many blunders, but you help me out. Samazamana doji o fumu watashi o tasukete kurete.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
94. Oh , okay...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:42 PM
Nov 2013

Maybe...

Iroirona doji o fumu kedo, anata ga itsumo tasukete kureru.

(色々なドジをふむけど、あなたがいつも助けてくれる。)

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
96. Heh..
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:53 PM
Nov 2013

Probably ask Art_from_Ark or Bonobo, as they live in Japan and are more fluent than I am. I still have difficulty but you know, I don't get to use it as often as I would wish. (Even my parents speak more English than Japanese.)

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
99. I just ask the wife...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:16 PM
Nov 2013

she is a native speaker. I am from Lebanon, but my parents always spoke more English than Arabic. My Japanese isnt great but it is probably better than my Arabic these days I have to say.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
11. I have four more gifts to buy, two to make .... and I'm done !!!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:15 PM
Nov 2013

Got all my replacement bulbs for the tree lights, downloaded some new recipes to try, have my cards ready to go.. Usually I wait until about a week before Christmas for most of this stuff so I thought I'd try doing it like normal people ... just to see what it's like.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
18. I only put a string around my tree and the big window it sits in, now.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:20 PM
Nov 2013

When I lived on the farm I decorated and lit up EVERYTHING. I loved it, people used to drive by and stop at night to watch the lights. But yeah, you're right .... it's a waste when you think about it.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
114. LOL I know!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:49 PM
Nov 2013

I've always hated those people myself, until now! Maybe I'm delirious thinking I'm close .... there will probably be something catastrophic happen between now and then, with my luck.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
116. Naaahhh, you are just super organized.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:54 PM
Nov 2013

I have family and friends spread across the globe. I usually write the overseas cards first, then the out of state, then the ones within the state and finally the ones within the town. I also have to hand deliver cards to coworkers, neighbors, the stylist, hail salon, etc. It's never ending. I'm tired just thinking about it. I go through boxes and boxes of cards.

I just depressed myself.



polly7

(20,582 posts)
117. Awww ..... well you're a lot nicer person than me, I don't send or give cards to nearly that many
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:59 PM
Nov 2013

people. But I live in a small town, so we all see each other for what seems like a dozen Christmas parties beforehand and just get pissed together and give drunken hugs in lieu of sending cards.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
119. I didn't even remember to mention the people from church, there go another bunch of cards.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:02 PM
Nov 2013

I think that I need a drink.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
120. Wow. You are a VERY kind person, and I'm sure all of those you send your cards to
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:12 PM
Nov 2013

are very touched you've thought of them.

Don't drink too much when you're doing them up though, I did that one year and it was a bit of disaster. A friend and I decided to make our own cards - we bought a whole crapload of fancy supplies and she brought over her homemade wine to try while we did them up. It went down really well, but I still think she did something wrong with that wine because the cards looked like they were written by .......... well, people who don't think clearly.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
125. Ha, ha, ha, those cards must have been fun to read!!!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:27 PM
Nov 2013


I'm old fashioned when it comes to cards. An email won't do it, it's not classy. It seems like an afterthought, that someone couldn't be bothered to write and mail a proper card.

I may write a lot of cards, but I also get a lot in return. They are fun to read and some are so pretty.

Right now I'm having a Yuengling with a slice of pizza. Yummy............

polly7

(20,582 posts)
145. I have to share a secret about one of those cards,
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 09:39 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:48 PM - Edit history (1)

we were using a glue gun to glue glitter on some of them and a Halloween bug flew down and landed in her path, she just glued him down and glittered him nice. But omg, I'm afraid to this day to even see one of those cards, I hope they didn't keep them.

I'm with you, I don't get much out of simple 'Happy Holiday! greetings. Some do put a lot of work into them, adding family pictures and stories and updates - those ones I really enjoy getting, but it's still not quite the same.

I hope you enjoyed your Yuengling and pizza!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
147. Thanks, they were tasty.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:45 PM
Nov 2013

You glued a bug to the card? LOL!!! I wonder who got that card...........

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
14. That's nice . . .
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:18 PM
Nov 2013

For myself, I came to terms with these societal distractions the day I realized I could create my own conceptions and that I need not labor beneath the burden of other people's beliefs and expectations. It was an exhilarating moment of freedom, one I've kept glowing in my life ever since. And I've been infinitely happier for recognizing it.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
15. I love Christmas, but only when it happens after Thanksgiving.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:19 PM
Nov 2013

And with snow on the ground.

I hate Christmas when it's two days after Halloween and it's 46 and sunny outside.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
17. I've always loved seeing my kids and
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:19 PM
Nov 2013

grandkids at Christmastime because we don't live close to each other and it's one of few times we can all get together. However, buying gifts for so many is hard. This year I am making earrings for the women.

Example:

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
24. Only the crass commercialism... I love the lights, decorations, snow and HOPEFULLY
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:24 PM
Nov 2013

a tiny reprieve from the typical unpleasantness encountered among the general public.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
98. The lights...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:10 PM
Nov 2013

if there's any positive at all in Christmas, it's the lights.

Everything else sucks. Except for time with family.

But yeah...when it's called The Season of Light, I can handle that.


backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
25. WELCOME, FELLOW LIBERALS, TO THE WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:26 PM
Nov 2013

Bill O'Reilly can't stop us this year! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
30. I love the winter solstice here in the Northwest. I'm originally from TX. I have never
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:42 PM
Nov 2013

gotten use to it getting dark at 4:30 in the afternoon during Nov and Dec here in the Northwest. But the winter solstice is a reminder that the worst is behind us and we can look forward to a little bit of daylight coming back our way every day.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
75. I'm in the NW too and there are A LOT of Solstice parties that go on.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:37 PM
Nov 2013

I love that, because Solstice is the TRUE reason for the season.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
31. I hate how stores are advertising holiday deals earlier and earlier now.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 03:43 PM
Nov 2013

To quote George Costanza: "Birthdays, Christmas, Mother's Day, Father's Day. Can we please have one month off?"

searchingforlight

(1,401 posts)
34. Christmas is a spotlight on the vast differences between the haves and the have nots.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:04 PM
Nov 2013

Parents who feel so guilty for not having time to be the parents they think they should be overspend and go into debt for material displays of their love. Children are manipulated into feeling deprived if they don't get the thing they are suppose to want.

We need to just say no.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
41. I'm enjoying being the parents of older children. You don't have to buy as many presents.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:11 PM
Nov 2013

I'll probably buy my 15 yr old son a video game, and give my 18 yr old some cash and be done with it.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
36. I LOVE Christmas, but I don't watch TV, don't live in a town, and don't shop much.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:05 PM
Nov 2013

So for me, Christmas is my version of the ancient natural celebration of the winter solstice, when the days begin to get longer. And if you have kids around who are between the ages of three and seven, it's way more fun.

I love giving presents and love my pretty Christmas tree, pretty colored lights, and the sparkly colored tinsel I put all over my house. I make holiday food, and sample all the great different Winter Ales that are brewed during the solstice season.

IMO, if you can pretty much avoid the commercialism, Christmas rocks.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
51. this is how it should be!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:32 PM
Nov 2013

I don't watch teevee either.

I think I might put some medieval and renaissance yuletide music on my ipod and use it with headphonesas a pprotective shield when I have to go into any public place. Except work, thank dog I don't need it there: no muzac at a college!

deucemagnet

(4,549 posts)
42. +1
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:15 PM
Nov 2013

If I could afford it, I'd go to a part of the world that never heard of Christmas after Thanksgiving and return after New Year's Day.

I can't miss Thanksgiving, though. No hype, no gifts, just see the family, reconnect with some friends back in the hometown, have a nice meal, watch some football, and you're done. Nice holiday.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
44. They can't even wait until after Thanksgiving
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:18 PM
Nov 2013

To start the war on Christmas anymore. Commercialism! sigh.

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
146. "Simple Gifts" or in lots of hymnals: "Lord of the Dance"
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:27 AM
Nov 2013

I love that piece of music. I have used many times often with just a classical guitar or flute!

War Horse

(931 posts)
50. It's a tough time for many, commercialism or not
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:32 PM
Nov 2013

Another way of looking at it is that January 1st is just around the corner

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
58. gopiscrap
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:51 PM
Nov 2013

gopiscrap

I like christmas it is a time when familiy and friends (the few I have) can come togheter, have a feast with traditional cristmas food - Not that I eat to mutch of Lutefisk - but hey, it is traditions and maybe even have some fun in some of the darkest days in the year... It is allways a reason to came togheter for some good food at least, even if you do not celebrate christmas as sutch?

Diclotican

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
59. I HATE NEW YEARS EVE!!!!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:54 PM
Nov 2013

What the hell is all that shit about??? Expect ME to stay up till midnight, screw that crap. They can have it at a decent hour or do away with the damn thing.

Nine

(1,741 posts)
60. Christmas is what you make it.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:58 PM
Nov 2013

I suspect people who hate Christmas do so because they feel compelled to follow some template of what the holiday should be. Christmas can be taking a walk in the park, going out to a restaurant and movie, doing some family activity, volunteering at a soup kitchen, or whatever you want. Avoid the shopping malls, don't play the radio stations that do Christmas music, change the channel or turn off the tv and read a book when the Christmas specials are airing, and it shouldn't be that hard to avoid the rest of it.

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
64. We don't celebrate it anymore. Nor Thanksgiving. They are artifacts of the
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:08 PM
Nov 2013

past, never to gain strength enough to be viable again. The only holiday we celebrate is Halloween, which I don't think is a big h Holiday. After first quarter next year my wife and I will be done with our 125 to 130 hour workweeks and will be looking for a place to live in San Lucia, leaving our house to our daughter. Maybe the new place will have holidays that mean something, and then we will celebrate them. But that isn't here. Even in non-holiday season virtually every media minute is filled with commercials from pineapple-mist douche spray to goat's milk bubble bath. I listen to none of it anymore. Can't take it-- Thanksgiving died about 30 years ago; Christmas about ten years after that. If I want to buy Cousins Billie and Babs a present, I'll do it on a non-holiday. Then they might be surprised. However, having said this, I have no problem with those that partake.

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
79. Yeah, but everyone's path is different....and we may all meet again
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:50 PM
Nov 2013

in more celebratory times in a different place. Maybe I shouldn't have bought that rum-laced Costco eggnog a few hours ago... I'm a hypocrite.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
85. Thanksgiving too... I know you said you like it, but I hate it.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:57 PM
Nov 2013

And birthdays. Except for mine, mine is cool.

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
88. I like Thanksgiving because there's tons of food, two paid days off and I don't have to do any
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:59 PM
Nov 2013

extra work at, specially if I go to eat at some one elses house.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
90. That's all the stuff I hate about holidays...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:02 PM
Nov 2013

People, food and no excuse to get the hell out of there.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
118. too Mao
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:59 PM
Nov 2013

not that I don't hate the excessive commercialism and it's material eyed followers
all that is spent on xmas could save the world from a lot of it's problem
Last year's xmas spending could give access to clean drinking water world wide
yeah it is big mula we spend to buy a lot of things for xmas

Read Here > oh and tat is just Americans!!

$469 Billion: How Much Americans Will Spend Shopping During This Holiday Season (and what else you could buy with that much money) 2011
http://www.lastthroes.com/2011/12/469-billion-how-much-americans-will.html

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
89. that's an awful big broadbrush
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:59 PM
Nov 2013

my atheist, jewish family carries it on as a tradition from before mom moved. it's a day for us to be together, lounging in our jammies and stuffing our faces. we get grocery gift cards and other things we need for christmas, but i could give a shit if i get anything as long as i have the day with my family.

 

RosettaStoned77

(53 posts)
74. Halloween every night!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:37 PM
Nov 2013

Had a great time handing out candy to all the scary little ghouls on Samhain night! The locals have a huge bonfire celebration, but act shocked when I tell them they are celebrating the ancient pagan ritual of November coming fire! Told some friends that on x-mas I want to decorate like Halloween and put gravestones in the yard! (here lies jesus christ) They werw more than a little shocked. Guess I'd better move back to Seattle for that if I don't want a bonfire of my own(flaming cross) in my front yard!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
92. I don't have a problem with Christmas, but
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:07 PM
Nov 2013

I never cared for New Years or 4th of July. Those 2 holidays always made me feel bad about not really having any friends to hang with or not being able to drive so that I could go somewhere at night. Plus, of course, the normal TV shows aren't usually on.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
105. Aren't you a little too early with that pronouncement?
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:32 PM
Nov 2013

We are not even close to Thanksgiving yet.

As for Christmas, I find it a stressful time, but I enjoy the season. The stressful time comes from having to write over 30 cards and mailing them. Buying gifts and stressing over who wants what. Most women also get stuck with the meal planning and the decorating (other than the outside lights).

JI7

(89,247 posts)
142. i'm an Atheist and Christmas is my favorite Holiday
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 12:33 AM
Nov 2013

i do get annoyed by the business side of it and all the hyping of black friday and starting things too early.

but i love winter and the food and yes gifts are great also.

only problem is sometimes i end up not being able to just enjoy things because of all the pressure to buy gifts and other shit. so i will try to start early.

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