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titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:14 PM Nov 2013

I LOVE CHRISTMAS!!!

Sorry to post this but I just read a whole thread about hating Christmas. Well, I LOVE CHRISTMAS. I love the songs, the cantatas, the choirs, the snow, the warm fires in the wood stove, visiting friends and family, the little extra time I get to spend with my wife. I love giving gifts and it is fun to get that special something from my kids and wife. I love Christmas beer (especially from Great Lakes in Cleveland), the wonderful foods, Christmas cookies and the smell of dad's pecan pie.

I don't care about the advertising, the decorations in the stores, the commercialism. Why? I don't let it bother me. We pretty much give one or two gifts to the kids (older now) and my wife and I usually agree on something we mutually want to do to our house. I avoid people I don't want to see. I avoid conversations I don't want to be a part of. But I love the holiday.

Have a nice day!

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I LOVE CHRISTMAS!!! (Original Post) titaniumsalute Nov 2013 OP
I love it too shenmue Nov 2013 #1
My favorite holiday just passed by... yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #2
Give me your address titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #6
lol! yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #11
Man that makes my mouth water titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #44
I intend to buy massives amount of yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #48
Please steal it and post it in Cooking and Baking. We won't tell... freshwest Nov 2013 #97
I used to spend hours decorating xmas cookies. CrispyQ Nov 2013 #108
Me too! n/t ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #3
I love Christmas too fishwax Nov 2013 #4
Me, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2013 #5
The WAR on Christmas is so fake! nt caledesi Nov 2013 #68
When I was a kid I loved it, but I've grown up B Calm Nov 2013 #7
I do too, but only after Thanksgiving. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #8
+1.0 GreatCaesarsGhost Nov 2013 #82
You've never even heard of Thanksgivoween? eridani Nov 2013 #101
I hate this!! WCLinolVir Nov 2013 #103
+ infinity Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #109
Me too! :) nt onlyadream Nov 2013 #9
Christmas sucks. MagnumUK Nov 2013 #10
thank couldn't have said it better myself! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #24
My Christmas isn't over commercialized anything titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #45
This. +1000 n/t Beartracks Nov 2013 #59
You got that right, titan! My christmas isn't about santa claus, baby jesus in a manger, japple Nov 2013 #70
I love your spirit Lifelong Protester Nov 2013 #110
I can handle a little bit of Christmas cheer here and there, but it can be hard to ignore when it liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #12
You can do it. Think about something else when you see those gross displays japple Nov 2013 #73
Hear hear! I LOVE Christmas too! lunamagica Nov 2013 #13
I forgive you. Iggo Nov 2013 #14
Had some eggnog last night... XRubicon Nov 2013 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #16
I love putting up little Christmas lights. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #17
that's using energy that could be used elsewhere gopiscrap Nov 2013 #25
They'll put a smile on my face. That's the best use of a very small bit of electricity. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #75
yes while parts of the world go with out electricity. gopiscrap Nov 2013 #76
They're not going to send power from upstate NY to the rest of the world. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #79
lights going up..as we speak Sheepshank Nov 2013 #29
I have a very small Christmas Village on top of my dove's cage. In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Nov 2013 #18
ME TOO!!! johnp3907 Nov 2013 #19
And peppermint ice cream and sugar cookies cut into shapes. pnwmom Nov 2013 #20
Me too Pirate Smile Nov 2013 #21
it brings back wonderful childhood memories passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #22
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #27
Welcome to DU! classof56 Nov 2013 #43
Thank you Class of 56 passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #94
Thanks for sharing and welcome to DU! titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #46
Thank you for your warm welcome passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #95
I love Christmas too. It's a shame we have to go to war against it... Silent3 Nov 2013 #23
Nice!! titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #47
Let's be besties! It's such a great opportunity for love and laughter! nolabear Nov 2013 #26
I love the music part of it gopiscrap Nov 2013 #28
This atheist godless heathen loves Christmas, too. liberalmuse Nov 2013 #30
I love Christmas in all its forms, and buy all the gifts before Halloween. No last minute rush. freshwest Nov 2013 #98
O Tannenbaum~ sheshe2 Nov 2013 #117
Yay! Christmas at the White House and my favorite Nat King Cole song! Thanks! freshwest Nov 2013 #118
Sicko! Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #31
The commercialism titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #49
Especially poor retail workers who have to listen to Xmas music on a loop Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #54
Me too, but I hate stores opening on Thanksgiving. Faygo Kid Nov 2013 #32
Me either titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #51
#WarOnThanksgiving n/t Gore1FL Nov 2013 #33
I love the family part of it and the food malaise Nov 2013 #34
Same here! CFLDem Nov 2013 #84
I love it too! mecherosegarden Nov 2013 #35
Me too. efhmc Nov 2013 #36
You're a happy man and that's a good thing. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #37
Me too! ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #38
Tacos and enchilades ChazII Nov 2013 #39
I'm indifferent to it and most other holidays... penultimate Nov 2013 #40
K & R rollin74 Nov 2013 #41
I like Christmas, too, except Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #42
I moved from Ohio to South Florida four years ago titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #53
Not I. bunnies Nov 2013 #50
I love Everything about Christmas! Stellar Nov 2013 #52
Hugs. Thanks for sharing! titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #55
Awww...Thanks!!! Stellar Nov 2013 #92
Great Lakes beer is really good coldbeer Nov 2013 #56
My wife and I are both atheists, but we STILL love Christmas! eqfan592 Nov 2013 #57
many non believers do the same thing krakfiend Nov 2013 #60
Me too, and strangely even more in the lean years tavernier Nov 2013 #58
I love Christmas, too. 840high Nov 2013 #61
I've already started buying "arts and crafts" type items OKNancy Nov 2013 #62
Two months of... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #63
I don't go to stores...so I don't have to hear. N/T titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #64
they even get us... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #65
Ahh come one titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #66
It gets old.... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #67
Stand up, fight back. Take it back from the whining x-tians. japple Nov 2013 #74
Another godless heathen atheist here who loves Christmas. SheilaT Nov 2013 #69
Pass the butter please. Initech Nov 2013 #71
Agreed! Me too. Too many grinches on DU Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #72
We must all sit in our homes, reject anything that could be fun or traditional titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #77
Christmas is my favorite holiday! minivan2 Nov 2013 #80
I love it too meadowlark5 Nov 2013 #81
I love the HOLIDAY season. Everything you mentioned is SECULAR. Happy Holidays !:-) RBInMaine Nov 2013 #83
Hard for me to stay away from a church titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #88
Being a musician is wonderful. I play guitar. I just can't accept mythology as reality. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #104
It appears to me you're talking about Christmas, the day LiberalElite Nov 2013 #85
I don't think you should be ridiculed titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #90
You must live near by! Christmas Ale is now available! we can do it Nov 2013 #86
Unfortunately I now live in Florida titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #89
Not a hoppin frog fan - way too pricey, not that special. Will drive to Delaware for Dogfish, though we can do it Nov 2013 #93
Yes it is pricey...but I love it titaniumsalute Nov 2013 #114
I love it when the Grinch's heart grows 3 sizes eom yawnmaster Nov 2013 #87
I love Christmas! samsingh Nov 2013 #91
Light shows, animal sacrifice, pyrotechnics Festivito Nov 2013 #96
Never worked retail, I see jmowreader Nov 2013 #99
My best friend was a brew-master for Great Lakes... WCGreen Nov 2013 #100
Shame you missed it, but then again glad you don't need it! we can do it Nov 2013 #115
Me too! TBF Nov 2013 #102
An excuse to buy pretty baubles! WCLinolVir Nov 2013 #105
Yes. jwirr Nov 2013 #106
okay, I will rec this hfojvt Nov 2013 #107
Here ya go! nolabear Nov 2013 #111
Here is a hybrid for ya.... Rebellious Republican Nov 2013 #112
more than a name was changed hfojvt Nov 2013 #116
kick rollin74 Nov 2013 #113
It would be a easier to love (and by love I mean tolerate) if it lasted only 12 days Matariki Nov 2013 #119

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
44. Man that makes my mouth water
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:17 PM
Nov 2013

My mother every years maes the best butter cookies with her homemade icing and decorations. When we can't get to Ohio for Xmas she sends a few tins to Florida. So good.

yuiyoshida

(41,817 posts)
48. I intend to buy massives amount of
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:22 PM
Nov 2013

xmas cookies this year. Damn, I guess I will have to renew my membership to Gold's Gym..

CrispyQ

(36,411 posts)
108. I used to spend hours decorating xmas cookies.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:45 AM
Nov 2013

Mine were not nearly as pretty as these, but on a plate of treats, they stood out nicely.

Love the mittens.

at the Gold's Gym comment!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,523 posts)
5. Me, too.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:19 PM
Nov 2013

The advertising is a pain in the rear but I enjoy the lights and the music (the good stuff) and the parties and the food and the general good feelings. I'm sad for the bah-humbuggers who just can't ignore the commercialism.

WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
103. I hate this!!
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 09:01 AM
Nov 2013

Halloween can't be Halloween, Thanksgiving is just a precursor to black friday. UUGHHHH!! Stop rushing things! Let me enjoy each holiday on it's own merits. Don't crowd my Thanksgiving with memories of a disappointed Christmas.

japple

(9,799 posts)
70. You got that right, titan! My christmas isn't about santa claus, baby jesus in a manger,
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:34 PM
Nov 2013

or department store commercial crap. It is about family, sharing, giving to those who need a bit of extra. It's about childhood, cinnamon wafting from the kitchen, making cookies to give to friends and neighbors, greenery brought in from the woods or farmers' greens markets, candles, cooking that big dinner you've been thinking about all year, or spending time with those you might not have seen for a while.

Get out in your community and find out what you can do to make someone's life a bit better. It doesn't take money to make this happen. You can help a child or adult learn to read, give a ride to someone who needs to go to the doctor, babysit for a single parent who needs a night off, offer to dog/cat sit for a friend, neighbor who needs to get away for a weekend, sit with someone who is in hospice care or provide a respite for their family member. Christmas lives in the hearts and minds of those who care enough to make it a real holiday. Open your heart and you just might find the real meaning of the word: ~~~Christmas~~~

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
110. I love your spirit
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:19 PM
Nov 2013

this is what the season means to me, too. People trying to be just a little bit kinder to others.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
12. I can handle a little bit of Christmas cheer here and there, but it can be hard to ignore when it
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:26 PM
Nov 2013

is everywhere, all the time, non stop from before Halloween until the new year.

japple

(9,799 posts)
73. You can do it. Think about something else when you see those gross displays
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:58 PM
Nov 2013

of conspicuous consumption. Think about doing something actually worthwhile with your Christmas holiday (assuming you have one.) Go to the local homeless shelter or soup kitchen and help serve meals to those who are less fortunate. If you are on this forum, there is absolutely someone less fortunate than you. You have the power to make it a REAL HOLIDAY!

Response to titaniumsalute (Original post)

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
29. lights going up..as we speak
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:25 PM
Nov 2013

gotta be at it while the weather holds out. But we NEVER turn it on until after Thanksgiving Dinner. Then it's all out Christmas joy and hullaballoo at our house.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
78. I have a very small Christmas Village on top of my dove's cage.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:16 PM
Nov 2013

There will be mesh lights on my shrubs and one white-light reindeer on the lawn.

Response to titaniumsalute (Original post)

johnp3907

(3,729 posts)
19. ME TOO!!!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 04:53 PM
Nov 2013

Especially the music: From the classic carols and cantatas to the silly Santa stuff. Johnny Mathis, Anonymous 4, The Roches, Vince Guaraldi .....

And cookies!

But I can't get into any of it til after Thanksgiving.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
22. it brings back wonderful childhood memories
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:13 PM
Nov 2013

of walking down rainy Portland streets and seeing all the brilliant lights, reflecting off the wet pavement, and people scurrying around doing last minute shopping.

I still love it, even though I no longer participate in the gift giving for anyone but my Mom. I just love the cheerful spirit it brings out in some people, especially children.

Because I don't go gift shopping, I am not bothered by the commercialism any longer. And the family gatherings and big meals and group games afterward will always have a special place in my heart. I no longer participate in that either, but I remember it fondly.

The one thing I can't give up is my ornament collection. I have some beautiful ornaments that hang out year round, but during the holidays I want to put up tiny lights and bring out the rest. The unpacking and remembering all the special ornaments you forgot you had...I love that part.

I think a lot of people are letting a little too much anger and hate take up the space in their hearts that should be filled with joy and love. It's a personal choice we each can make.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
43. Welcome to DU!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:05 PM
Nov 2013

And if the Portland streets you mention are in Oregon, I share a bunch of Christmas memories with family in the area, attending Nutcracker at the Keller among them. I have a few special ornaments left me by my late sister, and they always bring to mind the holidays we shared when she was still with me. You are right--we should let our hearts be filled with joy and love, not just at Christmas. Hard to do, I know, in today's world, and commercialism aside, all the music and decorations do indeed lift my spirit. There are so many things we can enjoy--some in spite of what's going on us and some because of it. Thanks for the memory-jogger, and blessings to you and your mom.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
94. Thank you Class of 56
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:42 PM
Nov 2013

Yes, I'm speaking of Portland Oregon. I'm still in Oregon, but live in snow country now, but then it was mostly rain for Christmas.

We have good years and bad years. This has been a bad year for me in terms of family deaths...fortunately, my Mom, at 87 is still doing well...but good times like holidays can help us pull out of the slumps of everyday life. I think holidays are important for that. And they mostly focus on children, and children always bring light to our lives.

I'm not religious, but bless the children and any opportunity we have to focus on love and joy and giving and compassion.

Silent3

(15,119 posts)
23. I love Christmas too. It's a shame we have to go to war against it...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:18 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:09 PM - Edit history (1)

...but you know, we have our marching orders from Obama to carry out his globalist Marxist Islamic atheist homosexual agenda. Can't shirk that kind of duty just because you're getting all misty and sentimental!

nolabear

(41,926 posts)
26. Let's be besties! It's such a great opportunity for love and laughter!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:22 PM
Nov 2013

And I didn't by any stretch of the imagination have an easy time of it or outstanding Christmases growing up. But I loved it even then. There's nothing cynical or reasonable or mean about it. I'm not a believer, but I love the hopefulness of birth and renewal and generosity. Like you, if I don't want to be intruded upon I just don't let myself be bugged.

For years, every year I've collected a new ornament and a new song. My Christmas song collection is a crazy quilt of silly, beautiful, exotic, religious, secular, all kinds of things. When I was little we made decorations out of trash, and cut snowflakes out of paper (we were in the deep South so snow was unheard of). I loved the food and the stories and the little kids getting excited. Like you I love thinking about friends and family and trying for gifts that let them know I make an effort.

It's so human.

liberalmuse

(18,671 posts)
30. This atheist godless heathen loves Christmas, too.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:26 PM
Nov 2013

It's my favorite holiday. Aside from the rampant consumerism, I love the songs, the spirit and the whole feel of it. The sparkly lights are largely responsible. Most Christians scare me, though. The ones who make sure and tell everyone, that is. The others who actually live their beliefs don't need to let people know.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
98. I love Christmas in all its forms, and buy all the gifts before Halloween. No last minute rush.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:14 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:57 AM - Edit history (1)

I think I've always enjoyed the pagan European aspects, the holly wreath, trees, garlands and all that stuff; but the manger scenes have been a favorite, too. And the lights!

Oh, wow, that's the best, with some of the music. It's a good way to end the year, looking ahead. And it just feels good, or at least it used to feel that way.

I don't care for the 'war on Christmas' thing, the right wingers try to make it a line in the sand or an exclusive holiday season for one faith, actually taunting about the wording and not the spirit, that it's only about one, when it really isn't.

JMHO.



sheshe2

(83,586 posts)
117. O Tannenbaum~
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 10:56 PM
Nov 2013




O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
wie treu sind deine Blätter!
Du grünst nicht nur
zur Sommerzeit,
Nein auch im Winter, wenn es schneit.
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
wie treu sind deine Blätter!



O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum!
Du kannst mir sehr gefallen!
Wie oft hat nicht zur Weihnachtszeit
Ein Baum von dir mich hoch erfreut!
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum!
Du kannst mir sehr gefallen!

O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum!
Dein Kleid will mich
was lehren:
Die Hoffnung und Beständigkeit
Gibt Trost und Kraft
zu jeder Zeit.
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum!
Das soll dein Kleid
mich lehren.

http://german.about.com/library/blotannenb.htm

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
118. Yay! Christmas at the White House and my favorite Nat King Cole song! Thanks!
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:31 PM
Nov 2013
I may start early this year!

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
31. Sicko!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:34 PM
Nov 2013

I kid.

I TRY to not let all the ads and commercialism bother me, but it's tricky when you're already sick of Xmas images and the red and green color scheme by early November.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
49. The commercialism
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:24 PM
Nov 2013

I think I miss most of it for a few reasons.

1. I don't go to malls nor other major department stores. My wife is not much of a shopper either. We buy everything online.
2. Besides live sports I never see commercials due to the DVR. I don't pay attention to newspaper or circular ads.
3. I don't work in retail. I can probably understand a retail worker hating the holiday.

Faygo Kid

(21,477 posts)
32. Me too, but I hate stores opening on Thanksgiving.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:38 PM
Nov 2013

What's with that? None of the overpaid execs have to work - just their employees ripped from their families Thanksgiving evening.

I never got the whole Black Friday thing anyway. Sure wasn't a big deal a generation ago.

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
84. Same here!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:15 PM
Nov 2013

Nothing beats the Thanksgiving-Christmas-New Years time of year. Just something about beating the cold (well, when I'm up north anyways) by consuming good food and drink with my favorite people.

ChazII

(6,199 posts)
39. Tacos and enchilades
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 05:58 PM
Nov 2013

make for a yummy Christmas meal. It is often warm enough to have Christmas dinner outside.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
40. I'm indifferent to it and most other holidays...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:00 PM
Nov 2013

When I celebrate, it's always 'cause the people around me do it and I do it for them...


I'm just a big stick in the mud. I hate ice cream and cake too, btw.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
53. I moved from Ohio to South Florida four years ago
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:27 PM
Nov 2013

When we stay in Florida I really miss the snow and wintery weather. I DON'T miss it any other time though.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
50. Not I.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:25 PM
Nov 2013

I cant stand Christmas. Nothing about it appeals to me. We dont even celebrate it at our house. Ick.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
52. I love Everything about Christmas!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:26 PM
Nov 2013

Everything! I love the Christmas Carols (Nat Cole and Johnny Mathis) I love the winter snow, The gift giving, wrapping presents. I love the Christmas parties, I love the Christmas movie and cartoons and I love the Lord Jesus and right now I'm missing my beloved Mother that made Christmas so special for our family. Also, my dad who is now in home hospice....and that makes me feel like crying because a lot of my family is gone. Yet I still look forward to CHRISTMAS!!!!

coldbeer

(306 posts)
56. Great Lakes beer is really good
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:28 PM
Nov 2013

Great pilsner. But I drink beer out of cans. Great Lake is bottled.
I drink more than a 12 pack a day. Great Lakes is too expensive.
I am on Social Security so my budjet is $.61 cents a can. I jog
10k a day, every day. I have worked union and have served over-
seas in the infantry so figure my age. Go donkeys!!! Oh, and I
love Christmas.
and my grandchildren.

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
57. My wife and I are both atheists, but we STILL love Christmas!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:31 PM
Nov 2013

It's just too much fun! And this year will be our baby girls first Christmas!!! I think our Christmas season started the day she was born

krakfiend

(202 posts)
60. many non believers do the same thing
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:51 PM
Nov 2013

My wife, kids and I are the same, but we still celebrate and enjoy the holidays. From the tree to the lights and singing. Its a great 3 months from Halloween to Thanksgiving to Xmas. Happy Holidays Y'all.

tavernier

(12,363 posts)
58. Me too, and strangely even more in the lean years
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:48 PM
Nov 2013

and we've had both. We manage to appreciate the true gifts and blessings more during harder times. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy when times are generous and it's chicken instead of feathers, but I think the tougher times make me think more about others in need, and I tend to loosen the purse strings.

Yup, hang silver bells on me and put me in your column!

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
62. I've already started buying "arts and crafts" type items
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:58 PM
Nov 2013

I saw a silver branch type Christmas tree with little crystals in the Pottery Barn catalog that sold from $40.00 to $100.00. I thought.. I can make that myself. I just got the stuff and will start on it later this month.
I'm a nut for decorating. My tree is so stuffed you can't see the green. It's the one time of year you can be gaudy and outrageous! I have Christmas shit everywhere.

Gift giving is easy in my family as we only buy for the immediate family ( 4 people) and for all the extended family we play dirty Santa or draw names.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
63. Two months of...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:03 PM
Nov 2013

"It's beginning to look a lot like christmas" being piped into every store you go to. There are rules against cruel and unusual punishments.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
66. Ahh come one
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:12 PM
Nov 2013

If the worst thing that happens to you during the course of a day that you have to hear a few Christmas tunes...is not a real big deal is it? Please.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
67. It gets old....
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:16 PM
Nov 2013

after two months. That, and the whining christians claiming persecution when someone says "happy holidays" to them.

japple

(9,799 posts)
74. Stand up, fight back. Take it back from the whining x-tians.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:12 PM
Nov 2013

Subvert the holidays. ?itok=Tb0y6_I


Make it a time to be joyful just for not participating in the madness. Print a bunch of BUY NOTHING DAY stickers and plaster them on the back of the toilet stalls in your local mall on Black Friday. Enlist a group of your friends to push shopping carts through the stores on Black Friday and buy nothing.

Get creative, make something happen. Don't sit around an whine about those whining x-tians. WAKE UP...it's up to us.

https://www.adbusters.org/

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
69. Another godless heathen atheist here who loves Christmas.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:31 PM
Nov 2013

I don't shop a lot other than for groceries, and I don't own a TV so I see very little Christmas advertizing.

This year much of my Christmas shopping is already done, because I've been picking things up, especially on some trips I've made, and a total of three different people are getting embroidered pillowcases from me. Next year several other family members will be getting them.

One year I gave everyone in my family a hand crocheted scarf, and all the women and girls also got earrings I made. If I lived closer to family I'd probably inflict baked goods on them.

Once in a while when I'm out in public it does seem as if someone is aggressively saying "Merry Christmas!" as if to pointedly ignore those who may not celebrate. I just give a big smile and say "Merry Christmas!" right back.

My (now ex) husband is Jewish, and we chose to raise our two sons within the Reform tradition. But we also did standard Christian/secular things like Easter baskets and Christmas. I do not agree with those who say if you're in a mixed marriage like that you absolutely must choose and only give the kids one tradition. It's very easy to tell the kids why they don't get Christmas gifts from the one set of grandparents but do from the other. While I do understand that some people do choose only one tradition, I do think it's the height or rudeness to return the Christmas gifts from the Christian side of the family. Which I've seen happen.

What I most want to say to those who hate Christmas, don't bother. You expend a lot more energy hating it than you would in simply ignoring it.

And I sincerely hope that on Christmas Day itself you volunteer at a homeless shelter.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
72. Agreed! Me too. Too many grinches on DU
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:47 PM
Nov 2013

Who give Democrats a bad name. Must all traditions be rejected? Must all celebrations be subjected to revisionist history and arched eyebrow of the universally skeptical and unhappy liberal?

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
77. We must all sit in our homes, reject anything that could be fun or traditional
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:14 PM
Nov 2013

I agree. I can understand some people might not be much for celebrating a certain holiday...but HATING a holiday seems rather odd. I try not to get worked up enough to hate anything...except Tea Baggers.

minivan2

(214 posts)
80. Christmas is my favorite holiday!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:20 PM
Nov 2013

I love everything about it, except the consumerism.

On a side note, since when did DU become a far right Bill O'rielly loving Born Again Christian forum.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
81. I love it too
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:25 PM
Nov 2013

Has always been my favorite. It's the one time of year our family makes sure they get together. The colors, the smells, the food, the music. The kids get a few things they really want and the husband and I buy something we both want. One year it was a flat panel tv.

I do most of my holiday shopping online. I started that 5+yrs ago and it has made my holiday season quite Merry Not having to set foot in the mall during the month of December has done wonders for my holiday spirit. I can't stand that part of Christmas - the mall and the mayhem shopping

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
83. I love the HOLIDAY season. Everything you mentioned is SECULAR. Happy Holidays !:-)
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:12 PM
Nov 2013

I too love the foods, evergreens, gift-giving, parties, lights, etc. etc. Well, I have to confess some of the songs are religious, and I have to say that I even like some of their messages insofar as peace and love, etc. and many of their melodies, but I think the very idea of some mythological being or other is pure and total hogwash. I am indeed a very proud atheist. I think believing in mythological beings in the year 2013 is entirely beneath any sense of intellect and reason. However, it is a SEASON about light, and love, and peace, and caring, and giving, and celebrating life, much of which was done in the solstice celebrations on which most of the season is truly based and which were co-opted by the Christians because the ancient solstice celebrations were deemed a threat, much like the ancestral rituals of "Halloween" in ancient Ireland which is why they started All Hallows Day aka All Saints Day. Christ, if he even existed, could not have been born at the time of the solstice. No shepherds were out then.

So I love the season and celebrate all the solstice-rooted activities you mention and peace, love, giving, etc., but I don't go anywhere near a church. If Christ existed, he was a great guy who preached many nice things. But rising from the dead and being essentially a god? That is mythological fantasy that we have long since grown out of. It is a season of love, peace, giving, and joy, and we can ALL honor and celebrate those things.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
85. It appears to me you're talking about Christmas, the day
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:17 PM
Nov 2013

That's fine. Christmas is fine. However, when I say I hate Christmas I mean the two-to-three month buy buy buy season with the obligatory omnipresent Christmas song musak (some of which is really terrible) and the faux merriment. It's oppressive for some. If you don't feel oppressed by all that - good for you.
And now, let the ridicule begin - 3, 2, 1......

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
90. I don't think you should be ridiculed
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:06 PM
Nov 2013

I don't like the commercial part either. But you and I can't stop that. There's lots of things I don't like. If people want to engage in the buy buy buy that's their prerogative. You and I don't do that.

As for the Christmas music....frankly I don't seem to even notice it much. Most of the time it is very background in public places which I don't much attention to I guess. Yes some is bad, but some is beautiful. Handel's Messiah is always wonderful. Some of the hymns are glorious (not to God necessarily) in tune and choir.

I learned a long time ago to appreciate music for the sound more than the lyrics. As an atheist church organist I can play the hymns and direct the choirs without being wrapped up in the meaning of the lyrics.

I usually hate love songs as well. But many times I love the tunes to love songs. The cheesy lyrics...not so much.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
89. Unfortunately I now live in Florida
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:01 PM
Nov 2013

However...my folks are still int he Akron area and Dad always sends a sixer of GL Christmas Ale. I'm also getting some Hoppin Frog Frost Xmas Ale this year.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
114. Yes it is pricey...but I love it
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:09 PM
Nov 2013

The owners are really cool and they have become quite a force in the craft beer world.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
96. Light shows, animal sacrifice, pyrotechnics
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:54 PM
Nov 2013

Lighting a tree, carving the turkey, burning a yule log, really puts me in that holiday spirit.

jmowreader

(50,520 posts)
99. Never worked retail, I see
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:11 AM
Nov 2013

The thing I noticed from six years working in retail hell, is people change from jolly, happy souls to complete assholes not because of the crowds or anything, but because they expect you to give them the store free. It might not be a universal but it's damn close to it, and the most obnoxious people are the ones wearing more than one piece of Christian-themed bling.

One of my best friends from Home Depot was a 50-year-old guy (when I knew him, he's probably 60 now) who'd been working retail his entire working life...he's a devout Christian but he locks himself into his bedroom after his shift ends on December 24 and gives strict instructions to leave him the hell alone (in those words) until December 26. I'm not even sure he eats on that day.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
100. My best friend was a brew-master for Great Lakes...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 03:13 AM
Nov 2013

Well, he was one of my BF, we have grown apart since I took ill. The whole time I new him I was in AA and never got to taste the home brew as we called it...

TBF

(31,991 posts)
102. Me too!
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 08:43 AM
Nov 2013

I am always eager to get through Halloween, put away all of summer (here in Texas I can still be wearing tank tops late October) and get the house ready. Yesterday I ordered our holiday cards

WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
105. An excuse to buy pretty baubles!
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 09:24 AM
Nov 2013

I love Christmas ornaments. I collect them every year. They have to be on sale
though. One year I had so many lights I kept blowing the breaker. I'm dreaming of a fourteen ft tree. I hope it snows in Richmond this year. 2-3 years ago we had @ two feet of snow and it was just magical walking in the old Church Hill area with all of the gas streetlights and the decorated Victorians.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
107. okay, I will rec this
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:54 AM
Nov 2013

but the songs? Some of the songs have GOT to go.

And Christmas in October is one thing, but Christmas in November? What about Armistice Day and Thanksgiving?

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
112. Here is a hybrid for ya....
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:52 PM
Nov 2013

Armistice Day and Christmas in one song.

Armistice Day (which overlaps with Remembrance Day and Veterans Day) is celebrated every year on 11 November to commemorate the armistice signed between the Allies of World War I and Germany at Compiègne, France, for the cessation of hostilities on the Western Front of World War I, which took effect at eleven o'clock in the morning—the "eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month" of 1918.

After World War II, the name of the holiday was changed to Veterans Day in the United States and to Remembrance Day in the countries of the British Commonwealth of Nations. Armistice Day remains an official holiday in France and Belgium. From 2012, Armistice Day is an official holiday in Serbia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_Day



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sSuUw75u2Jo

During the first Christmas of WWI German soldiers are heard by British troops singing "Silent Night" (in its original German). The British troops respond by writing in mud on a piece of wood "Merry Xmas" and raise it above their heads in their trench so the Germans could see it. The British troops yelled out "Merry Christmas, Fritz!" The German troops responded, "Merry Christmas, Tommy". Soon, one brave German soldier walked across No Man's Land with his empty palms up, and a single British soldier climbed out of his trench to greet him. They shook hands. Then troops from both sides poured out of their trenches along the western front and celebrated Christmas as friends. An amazing and touching event.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
116. more than a name was changed
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:07 AM
Nov 2013

Not that I remember the Holiday from the 1920s

but to me there is a big difference between

Armistice Day - a day to commemorate the end of a war

and

Veteran's Day - a day to honor the people who have fought in wars.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
119. It would be a easier to love (and by love I mean tolerate) if it lasted only 12 days
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:42 PM
Nov 2013

instead of the Halloween to New Year's onslaught we're subjected to it.

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