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Love or hate Thanksgiving? (Original Post) malaise Nov 2013 OP
love it gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Nov 2013 #3
Love it, but no turkey for me. N/T Big Blue Marble Nov 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Nov 2013 #4
Love. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #5
indifferent about thanksgiving IcyPeas Nov 2013 #6
Love it. LeftofObama Nov 2013 #7
Love it Freddie Nov 2013 #8
Meh FarCenter Nov 2013 #9
Love frazzled Nov 2013 #10
As a vegetarian and animal rights activist, MoonRiver Nov 2013 #11
+1 nt bunnies Nov 2013 #14
OK forget the turkey malaise Nov 2013 #15
Other than the yearly turkey holocaust, I do like Thanksgiving! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #22
there are options arely staircase Nov 2013 #18
Thank you! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author MoonRiver Nov 2013 #24
Agreed. Me too. RebelOne Nov 2013 #46
Try celebrating it with a vegetarian meal. No one said DonViejo Nov 2013 #53
I am a vegetarian and always am invited to my son's RebelOne Nov 2013 #58
That's what I do, but others in my family eat turkey. MoonRiver Nov 2013 #68
I' am a vegetarian and animal rights activist too but Thanksgiving in a way LiberalElite Nov 2013 #59
So am I but I still like the idea of it being a time for family and being thankful. You can Raine Nov 2013 #64
Technically I can not eat.. yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #12
Like it. surrealAmerican Nov 2013 #13
Any excuse for Aerows Nov 2013 #41
LOVE it! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2013 #16
LOL malaise Nov 2013 #17
Thanksgiving might be my favorite holiday... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #19
Love it. Packerowner740 Nov 2013 #20
It's great if you are the guest; a lot of work if you have to cook. femmocrat Nov 2013 #21
I plan a month ahead and cook and prep for a week and a half Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #51
I agree. Generally, we, the women, are left to cook everything while the guys just mill around. Laffy Kat Nov 2013 #67
my sons in law are very helpful. One even cooks gourmet food and also cleans very thoroughly... CTyankee Nov 2013 #71
You must be proud of your sons. You done good! Laffy Kat Nov 2013 #76
Er, sons-in-law, not my sons. I do have a son who is also very good, though! CTyankee Nov 2013 #86
not always the case DrDan Nov 2013 #81
I understand. Good for you. I know many families are better about sharing the workload. Laffy Kat Nov 2013 #83
Love the food... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #25
Now I love it, I used to hate it tularetom Nov 2013 #26
4 days off to read and write papers. nt Deep13 Nov 2013 #27
Love that one best out of all of them Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #28
Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday! DrewFlorida Nov 2013 #29
Turkey- ruffburr Nov 2013 #30
My favorite Holiday.. bar none Peacetrain Nov 2013 #31
That sums it up perfectly malaise Nov 2013 #32
It's ok. meadowlark5 Nov 2013 #33
Love it! redstatebluegirl Nov 2013 #34
So-so. 840high Nov 2013 #35
Parades, Football, Way To Much Food.. what's not to love? Motown_Johnny Nov 2013 #36
Seriously. One of the few holidays with no pretense. Barack_America Nov 2013 #85
Love. My favorite. cordelia Nov 2013 #37
Love it for seeing family members. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2013 #38
Love/hate Nevernose Nov 2013 #39
the one time each year that reminds us why we only see family once a year NightWatcher Nov 2013 #40
Ha malaise Nov 2013 #42
fish, like company, start to go bad after 3 days NightWatcher Nov 2013 #44
I have no choice n/t malaise Nov 2013 #48
I love to cook Aerows Nov 2013 #43
Love IT! Left2Tackle Nov 2013 #45
Details? malaise Nov 2013 #70
That holiday can be a vegetarian's nightmare oberliner Nov 2013 #47
It's all right. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #49
Love it. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #50
... Zorra Nov 2013 #52
We do it small, but that's just right by me. nolabear Nov 2013 #54
I like the food and football (despite not being a Lions or Cowboys fan), Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #55
HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOYS!! madinmaryland Nov 2013 #56
Love it Oilwellian Nov 2013 #57
Why don't we just forget about it like most retailers and shoppers want it. diabeticman Nov 2013 #60
Love It - Just wish I could contribute more to it TlalocW Nov 2013 #61
90+ family members get together in a big potluck. kwassa Nov 2013 #62
I love the stuffing and the pies. Hmmm. Yummm. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #63
I love anything that involves watching the Cowboys lose. name not needed Nov 2013 #65
Neither...but the grandchildren get time off from school so we try to find fun…. Tikki Nov 2013 #66
Love it! Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #69
Now that I sit at the big table it's kinda cool Johnny Ready Nov 2013 #72
ROFL malaise Nov 2013 #75
I like it better these days - TBF Nov 2013 #73
Love. Nt hack89 Nov 2013 #74
I like the "original" version... KansDem Nov 2013 #77
Love the cooking & family time Blue Diadem Nov 2013 #78
Well, "love" is pipi_k Nov 2013 #79
Indifference is opposite of both love and hate. *Shrug* Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #80
Take it or leave it. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2013 #82
Love it so much I married a Canadian. Barack_America Nov 2013 #84

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LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
7. Love it.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:16 PM
Nov 2013

I spend the evening before Thanksgiving baking, and most of Thanksgiving day cooking. The best part is when I get compliments on my cooking. My mom called the other day and said several people asked her to make sure I made the turkey again this year.

Freddie

(9,256 posts)
8. Love it
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:22 PM
Nov 2013

I find cooking a good meal for a crowd, if I have all day, relaxing and still challenging after all these years. I try to recreate many dishes that my Grandma, who was a wonderful cook, made with love. Now I have a grandchild and next year there will be 2 of them which makes it even better. Someday my daughter will want to take over at her house but I hope not for many years.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
10. Love
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:24 PM
Nov 2013

I'm all into baking pies (and pies, and pies) and completely overdoing the cooking.

What I love about Thanksgiving is its relative universality (for Americans, and often even new Americans). It's not a religious holiday, and I like that everybody is sitting down to the same approximate meal. I've been to Italian Thanksgivings that added a homemade lasagna course and bottles of Strega at the end, and I imagine that there are equally wonderful Chinese and Middle Eastern and other varieties of Thanksgiving. But they all involve turkey and trimmings and conviviality around a table, and they're all about the wonderful melting pot that is America.

((Okay, I know you're going to say not everyone has turkey. And so true: for many years I've had vegetarians at my table (including my son and daughter-in-law and daughter). With the panoply of vegetable and potato dishes and first courses and appetizers and deserts, I generally just let them feast on all that, making sure to substitute vegetable stock for chicken stock in all the dishes. But no way is some ersatz tofurkey dish getting onto my table (though I did do homemade French-breaded tofu cutlets last Thanksgiving.) ))

This year, the vegetarians are all out of town, so real sausage will go into the stuffing again, along with the chestnuts and mushrooms and onions and carrots and celery.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
15. OK forget the turkey
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:27 PM
Nov 2013

Let's discuss the day.
I visit my family for our great reunions. I don't think the Native Americans or the turkeys love the day.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
22. Other than the yearly turkey holocaust, I do like Thanksgiving!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:54 PM
Nov 2013

It's fun to reunite with family and friends. Husband, one daughter and I only eat torfurky, but we do have to deal with the carnivores. (We love them despite their offensive eating habits.)

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
23. Thank you!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 07:00 PM
Nov 2013

I bookmarked your link and will check into it before Thanksgiving. We usually go for tofurky but this one looks so realistic it is intriguing.

Response to arely staircase (Reply #18)

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
46. Agreed. Me too.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:42 PM
Nov 2013

I am always invited to my son's house every Thanksgiving. He and his wife think I am nuts because I don't eat meat, but they always have plenty of veggie dishes for me.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
58. I am a vegetarian and always am invited to my son's
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:19 PM
Nov 2013

every year at Thanksgiving. His wife always makes sure there are a lot of non-meat dishes that I can eat. My son thinks I am a nutcase because I do not eat meat.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
68. That's what I do, but others in my family eat turkey.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 09:29 AM
Nov 2013

Kind of makes me sick to be around that, but I don't want to not be with family. So my husband and I deal with it.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
59. I' am a vegetarian and animal rights activist too but Thanksgiving in a way
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:22 PM
Nov 2013

isn't any different from most major U.S. holidays - Most people eat meat and so we have the disgusting spectacle of the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest on July 4th; Lamb for Easter; Corned Beef for St. Patrick's Day, etc. etc.

So, this is a long-winded way of saying I like Thanksgiving. I just eat Tofurky or go out with friends to a vegan restaurant. Like they say: there's lots to eat without eating meat!

Raine

(30,540 posts)
64. So am I but I still like the idea of it being a time for family and being thankful. You can
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:00 PM
Nov 2013

make it a meatless event, I do.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
12. Technically I can not eat..
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:25 PM
Nov 2013

Beef, Pork or Lamb. (Severe food allergies) So my choices every day are poultry and sea food. I always look forward to "T-DAY" cause it means dinner out at some nice plush place, that has "all the fixins".

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
41. Any excuse for
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:36 PM
Nov 2013

gravy, stuffing, mashed potatoes and green beans is fine by me! Oh, I guess there's turkey, but that's hardly the highlight

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,523 posts)
16. LOVE it!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:28 PM
Nov 2013

The crowds at our dinner, the fun, everything!



And also, every now and then, my birthday falls on it.

Next year that will happen!

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
19. Thanksgiving might be my favorite holiday...
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:35 PM
Nov 2013

Well, outside Halloween. It's what Christmas should be - family and lacking in materialism. I love the smell of the house on Thanksgiving and the fall colors. I love football and the parade. I just love it.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
21. It's great if you are the guest; a lot of work if you have to cook.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 06:47 PM
Nov 2013

It's still better than Christmas though.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
51. I plan a month ahead and cook and prep for a week and a half
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:53 PM
Nov 2013

And I love it. On the actual day, I've very little to do.

Laffy Kat

(16,373 posts)
67. I agree. Generally, we, the women, are left to cook everything while the guys just mill around.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:13 PM
Nov 2013

It's a lot of work! I used to enjoy it but guess I've become bitter by now. I know there are exceptions, but from what I've noticed women still spend two or three days in the kitchen for a meal that's over in less than an hour. My husband spends perhaps an hour doing a half-ass job cleaning up the kitchen after we eat while making a huge production about how helpful he is. I really regret now that I can't thank my mother for all the work she did to make it special for us, year, after year, after year. Christmas too. My sister and I just took it for granted. Sorry for the catharsis.

Laffy Kat

(16,373 posts)
76. You must be proud of your sons. You done good!
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:00 PM
Nov 2013

As I said, there are exceptions. I was just speaking generally and regarding what I've experienced and seen.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
86. Er, sons-in-law, not my sons. I do have a son who is also very good, though!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:17 PM
Nov 2013

What this means is that I raised right-thinking, feminist daughters who wouldn't think of marrying a man who wouldn't share the kitchen cleanup...

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
81. not always the case
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:19 PM
Nov 2013

my wife and I each do our own turkeys - I smoke one and she does one in the oven.

We love leftover turkey. I do several turkey pot pies a day or so later which I freeze for lazy Friday dinners.

I also do a wild mushroom/rice and pecan stuffing. Yummo. I usually eat about a third of it before putting in the smoker with the turkey.

Mashed Yukon golds are also my task, while my wife does the sweet potatoes.

I think we do a good job in sharing the workload.

Laffy Kat

(16,373 posts)
83. I understand. Good for you. I know many families are better about sharing the workload.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:33 PM
Nov 2013

I know I'd have a completely different outlook about holidays if the preparation became more equitable. I hate that I dread what should be fun events.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
26. Now I love it, I used to hate it
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:07 PM
Nov 2013

We had these ginormous family dinners, 25 or 30 people at the house. People would promise to bring certain dishes and then renege or forget and Ms. T would be a stressed out zombie by Thanksgiving day worrying about who was going to bring what and would she have enough food. She spent three or four days in preparation. We typically served pheasant instead of turkey and some people didn't like that. I spent all morning grilling the birds. There were arguments about politics. A few of the relatives would eat and run to get another meal somewhere else. And when it came time to wash the mountain of dishes, everybody disappeared except the two of us plus one granddaughter. I remember loading the dishwasher for the last time at midnight. It was a zoo and we finally decided to scale back. Now it's just the two of us with occasionally our daughter and son in law. And we're a lot more relaxed at Thanksgiving and especially the week before.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
29. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:22 PM
Nov 2013

Thanksgiving is a great family and friends get together, I love all of the old family recipes
and sharing food with loved ones.

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
31. My favorite Holiday.. bar none
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:39 PM
Nov 2013

Family and Friends.. nothing else expected..no candy, costumes, presents.. just a meal with the ones I care about most.. (and some I have the best arguments with you can keep all the other holidays.. just leave me with old dead turkey day

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
33. It's ok.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:53 PM
Nov 2013

I really don't like turkey or roasting it. I hate having all the leftovers (except for pie and mashed potatoes), I don't care about football so don't look forward to that part. I like having the time off with the kids but the rest is

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
85. Seriously. One of the few holidays with no pretense.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:39 PM
Nov 2013

Unabashedly a celebration of friends, family and food. No religious or patriotic overtones to muck it up.

DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
38. Love it for seeing family members. . .
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:30 PM
Nov 2013

. . .usually the immediate family and in-laws. About 8-10 people. Depending on our schedules, it could be on Thursday, Friday, or Saturday. This year it will be Thursday.


The real big family get-together, though, is during the Christmas season.


Just got news that we will have a new addition to the family come April. Will be lots to talk about.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
39. Love/hate
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:33 PM
Nov 2013

I love the day and the weekend, but I'm usually exhausted the day after. Between the cooking and the visiting, I'm wiped out. And Black Friday just creeps me out at this point. I used to object to it, but now I see the people lining up for shit they don't need and feel the same way I'd feel if I found out a convicted pedophile moved in next door -- deeply disturbed.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
44. fish, like company, start to go bad after 3 days
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:42 PM
Nov 2013

Come in to town on Wednesday, eat all day Thursday, graze on desserts Friday, and find an excuse to get out of Dodge come Saturday.

I always preferred driving to family reunions over flying.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
43. I love to cook
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:38 PM
Nov 2013

and I love to have family and friends appreciate my cooking . Doing the dishes and clean up afterwards? Eh, not so much.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
47. That holiday can be a vegetarian's nightmare
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:43 PM
Nov 2013

Especially when the extended family is not particularly accepting of that particular lifestyle choice.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
50. Love it.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:51 PM
Nov 2013

Even on the years that I didn't have dinner, I always began the day by cooking up some onion in butter, because that's how I remember waking up on Thanksgiving morning as a kid.

nolabear

(41,932 posts)
54. We do it small, but that's just right by me.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:57 PM
Nov 2013

Turkey, everyone eating and hanging out, the parade and massive leftovers.

Although, I'm kind of thinking about doing a pre-made this year, because I'm on a low carb diet and cooking might be more than I can handle.

I'll like it in any case.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
55. I like the food and football (despite not being a Lions or Cowboys fan),
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:02 PM
Nov 2013

but that's pretty much it. When one dives into the true history of Thanksgiving, things start to look a little bleak.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
60. Why don't we just forget about it like most retailers and shoppers want it.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:25 PM
Nov 2013

Last year we had family and friends who either had to miss Thanksgiving dinner or pushed it to like 11:30 AM so that they could be at the store to prepare for the Black Friday Midnight sales.

This year Stores are even opening on thanksgiving day for massive sales AND most retailers don't give employees time and a half holiday pay.


I swear this country is regressing into a Dickens-like country.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
62. 90+ family members get together in a big potluck.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 10:47 PM
Nov 2013

What could possibly be wrong with that?

and then some of us boys step outside to share that clear liquid that smells strongly of corn.

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
66. Neither...but the grandchildren get time off from school so we try to find fun….
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:05 PM
Nov 2013

things to do that week.


The Tikkis

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
69. Love it!
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:02 AM
Nov 2013

When I moved into this house 14 years ago I started a tradition that I ALWAYS cook Thanksgiving dinner. I love to cook anyway and I don't care if I'm having 30 over or 3, I cook the same amount -- one ham, one turkey and the rest of the traditional trimmings. Oh, and pies. I LOVE making pies from scratch.

Johnny Ready

(203 posts)
72. Now that I sit at the big table it's kinda cool
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:21 AM
Nov 2013

but as a kid stuck in the basement of some "relatives" house eating with paper plates...not so much.

By the way I do not care how much more money my step brother Jeff is or was making than me when I was 20 something. You bazatrds, I am clearly more talented than all of you people including Jeff. FU.

TBF

(32,004 posts)
73. I like it better these days -
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:25 AM
Nov 2013

we can de-emphasize the dinner and focus more on parades, football, and putting up Christmas decorations (which is what we do on that long weekend).

When we were growing up the big dinner was held at my grandparents. They lived on a big farm in Wisconsin with several hundred acres of farm and hunting land. It was a big sprawling house with large picture windows on the main floor. We'd set up all the tables, food put up buffet style, and then sit down to eat. If you sat on the wrong side of the table you'd be looking out all those big windows only to see a bunch of dead deer strung up that morning and hanging from the trees in the yard. My uncles were very proud of that. Oddly, it made it very difficult for me to eat much of anything.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
77. I like the "original" version...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:08 PM
Nov 2013

I grew up with the "Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving."



Even to this day I really don't like pumpkin pie and attribute that to trying to eat a slice after stuffing myself with food.

Several years ago I convinced my family to have a dinner more along the lines of the original. They agreed so I researched and found information about the First Thanksgiving. I prepared this Thanksgiving meal:
Clam chowder
Turkey (free-range)
Onions
Squash
Pumpkin pudding (not pie)

They politely said they'd like the Norman version next year

Blue Diadem

(6,597 posts)
78. Love the cooking & family time
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:11 PM
Nov 2013

Don't like that it has taken on the meaning of shopping for Christmas and stores being open on Thanksgiving day.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
79. Well, "love" is
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:12 PM
Nov 2013

maybe too strong a word.

I like it.

Family fun, and no need to buy gifts.

Oh...and my oldest stepdaughter and her hubby do love to cook, and put on dinner at their house each year. It's always awesome.

Well, there was that one year they planned on serving emu instead of turkey, but a family poll showed not a lot of support for that idea.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
82. Take it or leave it.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 02:25 PM
Nov 2013

I don't have much family left; it's sort of a non-event. I go to a sibling's house and we have turkey and that nasty sweet potato and marshmallow crap and my nieces ignore me. If it weren't for the pie I probably wouldn't go at all.

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