Watching Miami/Fla. State game, and wondering..

[IDemo]

How the heck does the incessant, exceedingly irritating Seminole "War Whoop" and accompanying Tomahawk Chop not get the same attention that the Washington Redskins do for being embarrassingly bigoted? Or have I just missed it?

No, I do not have cable or dish and cannot watch my BSU Broncos at Colorado State..

[Fla_Democrat]

1. What's the score?

Stuck here in Gainesville.. and they are not very Seminole friendly.


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/sports/24mascot.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0



Florida State Can Keep Its Seminoles

By ROBERT ANDREW POWELL
Published: August 24, 2005

There was never any doubt where the Seminole Tribe of Florida stood on Florida State University's nickname. The tribe helped university boosters create the costume for the Chief Osceola mascot, approving the face paint, flaming spear and Appaloosa horse that have no connection to Seminole history.

Yesterday, the National Collegiate Athletic Association agreed with the 3,100-member tribe and the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, which had also endorsed the nickname. The N.C.A.A. removed Florida State from the list of universities banned from using what it called "hostile and abusive" mascots and nicknames during postseason play.

"The N.C.A.A. executive committee continues to believe the stereotyping of Native Americans is wrong," Bernard Franklin, the association's senior vice president for governance and membership, said in a statement. "However, in its review of the particular circumstances regarding Florida State, the staff review committee noted the unique relationship between the university and the Seminole Tribe of Florida as a significant factor."

[Beacool]

3. Hey, how's Gainesville?

I haven't been there in years.

[Fla_Democrat]

7. Little rainey this morning

Hope to be done with the roof and back home sometime late Sunday. Hotel is nice... but they had the UF/Ga game on when we checked in... knew better to ask about FSU with all the orange and blue we had to swim through to get to our rooms.

That plus the fact Georgia was up in the first quarter.. thought it best not to poke the bear.

[Beacool]

13. Well, congratulations.

It looks like the Seminoles won.

[IDemo]

4. Nothing wrong with the Seminole name, especially if the tribe approves

But the 1950's movie sound effect war whooping and accompanying tomahawk chant are flat stupid stereotyping.

[okwmember]

11. If I remember correctly, there was one man specifically who sued and petitioned for a name change.

But he was a member of the Oklahoma Seminole tribe and when the Florida Seminoles and the Oklahoma tribes both weighed in on the side of the school, the NCAA acquiesced.

[Beacool]

2. I hope that Miami wins!!!

I'm a Gator and we just lost 20-23 to Georgia.

Wuuuuaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

[RebelOne]

8. I hope Miami wins also.

I am a former Miami resident now living in the Atlanta area, but I am still loyal to my South Florida home.

[Mosby]

9. 14 to 7 florida st right now, about 7 min left in the half

Edit 20-7, 5 min left in half.

Miami cannot seem to stop the passing game.

[Beacool]

15. Damn, it's not my night!!!

First the Gators lose and now the hated Seminoles win!!!!

Life's not fair!!!!!!!

[LittleBlue]

5. If I recall, the Seminole tribe approves

The mascot is incredibly cool. He rides into the stadium in full war paint and plants a burning spear.

It's always been my favorite college football intro. I can see why the Seminole tribe likes it.

[quaker bill]

10. You are correct

My daughter just graduated from FSU, and the local Seminole tribe provided the color guard for graduation. They were Seminoles and Viet Nam war vets as I recall it. They do approve of the mascot, and all the rest.

[Beacool]

16. No, down with the Seminoles.

Gators rule!!!!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

6. That war whoop AND brent musberger...

Herbie, we're going to have to put you on mute.

[titaniumsalute]

12. I have never liked Brent Musberger. The worst in football announcing. NT

[scheming daemons]

14. Because the Seminole tribe said they could

And that should be the end of the issue.

[OmahaBlueDog]

17. Actually, there's a bit more

...FSU pays Seminole Nation a licensing fee.

THAT is the end of the issue.