Any NYers contemplating voting for de Blasio on a third party line tomorrow?

[Smarmie Doofus]

Move-on is urging its members to do exactly that. The idea would be to make a statement to the state party apparatchiks... and I guess to corporate DEMs nationally... that a lot of us are tired of the corporate slop and sleaze that's being routinely served up here and labeled "Democrat". ( Among other things... we HAVE to be "leading the league" in a whole range of dubious categories such as "state legislators under indictment" "officials resigning under threat of indictment", "resigning as part of a plea deal","wearing a wire" and the venerable "friends and/or relatives of party leaders involved in convoluted kick-back schemes" category.

Anyway.. a lot of us are SICK of it. ("Us" being... registered NYS DEM voters. "It" being ....the political culture of this state and the leadership of the state DEM party that keeps foisting these losers, delinquents, and mediocrities on us.) And are thrilled to have a chance finally to vote for a serious, honest , non-narcissistic , grown-up, social and political activist to vote for. So, here's Move-on's advice today via email:


>>>Bill de Blasio's campaign for mayor has electrified MoveOn members by making the city's growing inequality its central theme.

Even better, he rejected the nonsense conventional wisdom that says that Democrats must pivot to the center to be competitive in a general election. In fact, after sticking with his progressive message, de Blasio shot up in the polls.

Tuesday (that's tomorrow!) isn't just our moment to get Bill across the finish line—it's also a huge opportunity for New Yorkers to make sure this election creates a progressive mandate by voting on the>>>>

I have eliminated reference to the third part in question in deference to what I understand to be the spirit ( if not the letter) of the DU posting rules. Which USE to be: "don't advocate a vote against a DEM candidate." Well.... that's a little murky here since MOVE-ON's advocating FOR a vote for the CANDIDATE but not on our ( DEM) line.

I post this not to advocate a course of action but to stimulate thought and discussion. Can voting for the DEM candidate for mayor on a *third* party line promote the development of a healthier state DEM party that eschews values of "money and power for the sake of money and power" and returns to its proper role: promoting the public interest?

[TomClash]

1. I'm pissed at the WFP

They supported the worst and most corrupt city councilman this City has ever had: Matieu Eugene.

I'm voting Dem.

[Smarmie Doofus]

2. Understandable. (I was trying to avoid using that name; or acronym.)

I've never seen a lot of philosophical coherence from the "third party" at issue. Sometimes the less progressive of two candidates is endorsed.

They may do this because of the 50,000 vote rule. ( IN NYS, a party gets an automatic line ... that is, doesn't have to petition... if the get 50k statewide.)

However... that's somewhat beside the point: the idea ( at least from my POV; I can't speak for Move-on) would be to *improve* the DEM party. Not to build up the unmentionable third party.

And... one would still be voting for diB ( an OUTSTANDING candidate, imo; even if the state party leadership HAS been forced by the primary electorate to support him) if he/she followed Move-on's advice.

[TomClash]

8. I get it

It wasn't intended to slam you. I just want to vent at some of the assholes they back.

You are articulating the original reason for the WFP, moving Dems left. Nothing wrong with what you posted.

[KamaAina]

4. "the worst and most corrupt city councilman this City has ever had"?

Worse than Tammany Hall?

[TomClash]

9. You bet

Tammany Hall lined its pockets and got constituents jobs - imagine the guy who ONLY lines his own pockets.

It's a disgrace.

[KamaAina]

3. I wish every state had cross-endorsement

that way lefty parties like (in CA) the Greens and Peace and Freedom wouldn't have to bleed votes away from the Dem.

[Smarmie Doofus]

5. That works up to a point.

Around here... GOP and DEMs are known to cross-endorse. ( And people wonder why the system's so corrupt.)

Whenever I see that I vote for a fringe party.

[gopiscrap]

6. that won't De Blasio will it?

[JaneyVee]

7. I always vote the Socialist candidate for public advocate in NY.

Socialists make the best public advocates. Socialist party candidate Deborah Liatos will get my vote, even though I also like Dem candidate Letita James and she will probably win, it feels good to be able to vote for a SWP candidate.