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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWIRED: We’re About to Lose Net Neutrality — And the Internet as We Know It
Net neutrality is a dead man walking. The execution date isnt set, but it could be days, or months (at best). And since net neutrality is the principle forbidding huge telecommunications companies from treating users, websites, or apps differently say, by letting some work better than others over their pipes the dead man walking isnt some abstract or far-removed principle just for wonks: It affects the internet as we all know it.
Once upon a time, companies like AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, and others declared a war on the internets foundational principle: that its networks should be neutral and users dont need anyones permission to invent, create, communicate, broadcast, or share online. The neutral and level playing field provided by permissionless innovation has empowered all of us with the freedom to express ourselves and innovate online without having to seek the permission of a remote telecom executive.
But today, that freedom wont survive much longer if a federal court the second most powerful court in the nation behind the Supreme Court, the DC Circuit is set to strike down the nations net neutrality law, a rule adopted by the Federal Communications Commission in 2010. Some will claim the new solution splits the baby in a way that somehow doesnt kill net neutrality and so we should be grateful. But make no mistake: Despite eight years of public and political activism by multitudes fighting for freedom on the internet, a court decision may soon take it away.
How did we get here?
more -> http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/11/so-the-internets-about-to-lose-its-net-neutrality/
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)We've already lost it.
We had more protections and privacy when using 28.8 modems than we do now.
Google was a godsend at first and then began collecting our search data.
ATT and SBCGLOBAL started siphoning off all data in 2006, IIRC, and now choke bandwidth.
We should end the privatization of the internet and create a universal wifi/broadcast network for those who want it.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)to fight off government censorship?
Veilex
(1,555 posts)but if this passes, I also don't doubt it wont matter. They will control the message at that point, and they can literally turn off any support sites by simply removing all bandwidth to such a site... and you can damn well be sure the broadcast networks wont work against them, since that'll drive people back to the idiot box. The same probably holds true for radio. I'm seriously worried about this one.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)As soon as any dissent starts online they'll shut it down.
gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)articles surfaced.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)sl8
(13,679 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)to fight back against the One Percent.
Investigative journalism and a free press have been gravely assaulted and are increasingly replaced with a ubiquitous, interactive propaganda machine.
Gathering places online are disrupted and infiltrated by corporate spew.
Mass surveillance and a police state ensure that any real organization for change or resistance can be ended before it even begins.
And now they are going after the internet itself....our access to information and ability to communicate with one another.
This is corporate fascism brought to America, advancing rapidly.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)It won't be the ease of communication that brings them down, it will be the desire of the people, once people unite in common cause the 1% are doomed...
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Who do we have?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Her husband signed off on the Bank Modernization Act, for which it is suspected that he got the promise of One Hundred Thousand Dollars for each speech he gave in front of a Corproate Podium.
And even sadder than Bill Clinton signing off on that POS legislation, only one person in the Senate, Senator Dorgan of Nebraska, refused to vote for said POS legislation. Yes despite warnings from economists that this POS legislation would end Glass Steagall, and cause an collapse of the nation's economy (which indeed occurred less than a decade alter) the Corporate-controlled puppets in the US Senate voted for it.
Hillary Clinton will continue the Obama tradition of being for Monsanto, of being for the Big Banks, and the criminal elite like Greenspan was, like Bernanke and Geithner and Jack Lew are. And then there is the rather nasty reality that no one can say a Clinton is like Ghandi -- Ghandi was TOTAL NON Violence.
Sad thing about Hillary is that in her efforts to appear as strong and viable a candidate for the Presidency as any man, she is more for war than her husband was.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)a lot of folks here in DU are pimping for her.
To the tune of cops:
Bad choice, bad choice, what ya gonna do when it comes to you, bad choice bad choice.....
-p
KansDem
(28,498 posts)davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)I wonder if this will finally inspire people though, to start getting together in person? I think that's what we need to do to promote real progress, is to take action beyond the relatively anonymous internet discussions. I don't know if the solution is going to be laying down in front of trucks, boycotting these corporations, mass striking, or a simple sea of bodies in the capital shutting down business as usual... but we need to do something.
Every time something great comes along, the forces of ignorance, greed, selfishness and ultimate tyranny come along to claim it for their own. The internet is something I have greatly loved ever since I was a child, because it is truly "universal" in it's application. The more power the big boys and girls have over it, the more government control, the more regulation and policing... the less power the people of the world will have to truly communicate ideas, feelings, expressions.
This is one thing that makes me angry enough to fight back. If only I knew how.
CFLDem
(2,083 posts)I'm pretty sure this is the show where he hits on this very topic, although it may be another show around the same time.
He basically explains the powers that be are tying their own noose by cutting off all forms nonviolent dissent.
Bortman33
(102 posts)I would also add that those voting on the corporate and governmental control of the "tubes" don't have a clue on what they are voting for!
I'm sorry, they do have a clue and it's the pittance that is pumped into their campaign coffers that informs their bought and paid for votes.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,298 posts)Thanks for the thread, IDemo.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)I've been seeing this term in a lot of posts.
1. No one was paying attention
2. A few people with the ability extrapolate long term event situations (no this is not a trick, most of the population thinks short term gain and can't perceive long term effects) are called tinfoil hat wearing hair on fire Democrats and cease their warnings. Time passes and people ask "How did we get here?"
3. Most of the population is asleep.
4. All the lighthouse keepers got fed up with all the bullshit raining on them and left.
c. Naaaa, I must be smokin dope.
But I do like the "how did we get here?" part. Sometimes reflection reveals secrets in plain sight.
-p
TheKentuckian
(25,020 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...(the perception) of Net Neutrality.
- Net Neutrality assumes the obeying of the law by the government.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Could we see a new form of communication based on the loss of net neutrality that functions just as effectively? One can dream but a free internet did affect the last elections and lo and behold, they're taking that away from the populace. Someone's going to come up with something! That's what we're good at. I feel confident and at the same time starting to feel like we're living in a soon to become 3rd world nation.
-p
valerief
(53,235 posts)Dollface
(1,590 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)Wall Street Bailouts, "Sequesters" to cut Social Programs, Military Spending,....
Where does it end?
[font size=4]Hold on to your dreams, suckers,
cause we're TAKING everything else!
Hahahahahahaha![/font]
Iwasthere
(3,153 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)no, not Al Gore , but ARPA, the Advanced Research Projects Agency. At one time it was known as ARPAnet.
AAO
(3,300 posts)DARPAs mission is to maintain the technological superiority of the U.S. military and prevent technological surprise from harming our national security by sponsoring revolutionary, high-payoff research bridging the gap between fundamental discoveries and their military use.
Over the years, DARPA has worked to enhance our national security by funding research and technology development that not only have improved our military capabilities but have changed the way we live. Since the very beginning, DARPA has been the place for people with innovative ideas that lead to groundbreaking discoveries.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)the interests of wealth to maintain the fiction of democracy and so rule the country from behind the curtain of law and government rather than simply looting it all at once.
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)not sure i wan to use the sarcasm thingy or not
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts).