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PCIntern

(25,459 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 07:40 AM Nov 2013

So the results are in!

I just received my health care renewal notice for my dental office for 2014. For the SAME plan, for the SAME services, SAME deductibles, SAME coverage, I have a 31% savings in premium prices for me and for the indviduals whom I cover. For my business this comes out to a $21000 savings per annum.

That's TWENTY-ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS per year...

Whether the website is up and running or not.

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So the results are in! (Original Post) PCIntern Nov 2013 OP
Thank you President Obama for overcoming Republicon obstruction Berlum Nov 2013 #1
+ one zillion! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #35
Awesome.... trumad Nov 2013 #2
Republicans are acting like that money BELONGS to the insurance company. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #19
Well, yes, Turbineguy Nov 2013 #3
but ... but .... "What does the Fox say?" coldbeer Nov 2013 #4
Jon Stewart could easily crucify Fox News with a Mash Up of their ridiculous overuse of stillwaiting Nov 2013 #24
Did you get this right? brush Nov 2013 #6
Yes, you are (missing the sarcasm) Autumn Colors Nov 2013 #7
Ha ha! I knew something had to be up. brush Nov 2013 #25
I'll be complaining to Rand Paul Turbineguy Nov 2013 #32
You totally missed the sarcasm! MADem Nov 2013 #20
Great news! You going to give your employees a small raise? B Calm Nov 2013 #5
they get raises and incentive anyway... PCIntern Nov 2013 #9
I just thought it would be great if you could explain why B Calm Nov 2013 #10
I was being funny... PCIntern Nov 2013 #11
I just think it would be a great news story for ACA B Calm Nov 2013 #12
that is Corregeidor! PCIntern Nov 2013 #22
Plain and simple The Wizard Nov 2013 #8
Eh, the same people hated Bill Clinton Fumesucker Nov 2013 #14
Imagine what effect that type of money going back into the economy will have. n/t Ganja Ninja Nov 2013 #13
Employers will probably pocket the money and raise B Calm Nov 2013 #31
In all seriousness, why aren't these the stories we're hearing in the media. Fla Dem Nov 2013 #15
Repugs are but puppets of their Health "Care" mogul masters. RedCloud Nov 2013 #16
The insurance industries love at least 90% of the ACA, they get what they really wanted ..... marble falls Nov 2013 #17
Funny how the MSM Cryptoad Nov 2013 #18
Please go here and tell NBC about it...... sinkingfeeling Nov 2013 #21
k&r... spanone Nov 2013 #23
Be careful, FoxNews will put out a hit on you for fucking up their narrative! 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #26
Congrats and thanks for sharing gopiscrap Nov 2013 #27
Great news! Suggestion: Edit your subject line to give more information about your post. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #28
Why would I want to do that? PCIntern Nov 2013 #29
Okay, I thought it might attract more attention, but maybe you're right. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #30
Please so what Poster from #15 asks... busterbrown Nov 2013 #38
SWEET!!! Skittles Nov 2013 #33
See!!! Causing companies the undue burden of having to decide what to do with the savings. Thor_MN Nov 2013 #34
LOL! My biggest problem! Nt PCIntern Nov 2013 #36
Wait - You mean website glitches DON'T mean that Obamacare suckz?? Beartracks Nov 2013 #37
I hope you can use some of the savings to donate to campaigns. It's how big biz gives okaawhatever Nov 2013 #39
Or as Fox News would say, "Obamacare impacts Dentists Practice" rufus dog Nov 2013 #40

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
1. Thank you President Obama for overcoming Republicon obstruction
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:03 AM
Nov 2013

Republicons have done all they can to prevent Americans from having affordable health care. But their hateful, small-minded, greedy plans have come to shit.

Hear ye, O' RepubliWankers, the words of the prophet: your shit leadeth unto more shit. Meanwhile, fairness leadeth unto a fair deal for the citizens of these United States of America, no matter how much Republicons despise our nation and try to drag it down into their Shit Heap, Inc. (R) to abide with them.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
2. Awesome....
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:18 AM
Nov 2013

Such a residual effect. That 21,000 most likely goes back into the economy...etc..etc...etc.

Turbineguy

(37,278 posts)
3. Well, yes,
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:19 AM
Nov 2013

but everybody knows you are a notorious liberal who can't do simple math.

Here is the truth: My health premiums are doubling! That's right! Just like they told me on Fox News!

My costs go from $782 per month this year to $193 per month next year. And I get fewer benefits because they add maternity and drug coverage. Needless to say I AM OUTRAGED!

coldbeer

(306 posts)
4. but ... but .... "What does the Fox say?"
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:36 AM
Nov 2013

It seems that where ever I go, I am haunted by "What does the Fox say."
I visited my grandchildren in Nebraska and that was their queue. They
do not watch Fox News or MSNBC. I just was bewildered at first, but I
cannot escape the tune. I cannot listen to Media anymore ..... But,
"What did the Fox say, didtdiddidtdidtdidt.............................

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
24. Jon Stewart could easily crucify Fox News with a Mash Up of their ridiculous overuse of
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:35 AM
Nov 2013

highly targeted catch phrases that they use to propagandize the right wing point of view.

I have no doubt it could be an amazing segment. I hope he does it, and it goes viral.

brush

(53,724 posts)
6. Did you get this right?
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:43 AM
Nov 2013

You wrote:

"My costs go from $782 per month this year to $193 per month next year."

That sounds like huge savings to me but you're bashing the ACA?

Am I missing the sarcasm or something?

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
7. Yes, you are (missing the sarcasm)
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:57 AM
Nov 2013

I would think the intro of:

"Well, yes ... but everybody knows you are a notorious liberal who can't do simple math. "

would have made that obvious.

brush

(53,724 posts)
25. Ha ha! I knew something had to be up.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:10 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Tue Nov 5, 2013, 03:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Guess I have re-charge the batteries on my sarcasm detector.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. You totally missed the sarcasm!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:31 AM
Nov 2013

I guess everyone always has to drag this old boy out, without fail...




I do, because I have noticed that people can't always detect a sarcastic tone with the written word.

PCIntern

(25,459 posts)
9. they get raises and incentive anyway...
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:16 AM
Nov 2013

I think I'll send the money to you...

or that guy in Nigeria...

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
10. I just thought it would be great if you could explain why
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:19 AM
Nov 2013

they were getting this unexpected raise. I'm not trying to be a smart ass!

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
12. I just think it would be a great news story for ACA
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:33 AM
Nov 2013

and workers all over the country would know their employers are getting huge cuts in health insurance costs.

PCIntern

(25,459 posts)
22. that is Corregeidor!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:26 AM
Nov 2013

And I'm happy because it had been increasing every year since, like, forever...

The Wizard

(12,527 posts)
8. Plain and simple
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:02 AM
Nov 2013

Obamacare is insurance reform designed to drive down the cost of health insurance that was stifling economic growth and thus killing jobs. This is a plan Republicans would normally embrace and claim as their own. Unfortunately, the moneyed interests that control the Republican Party hate Obama for his complexion rather than the policies he borrowed from them.
Hatred, bigotry and ignorance is a recipe the Republicans concocted for cheap political gain rather than the benefit of the people. And with the help of Pox News and hate radio they've exploited enough dupes to vote against their own best interests.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
14. Eh, the same people hated Bill Clinton
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:36 AM
Nov 2013

You might recall that Clinton was impeached by these same people.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
31. Employers will probably pocket the money and raise
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 05:48 PM
Nov 2013

the cost to the employees and blame the cost going up because of Obama Care.

Fla Dem

(23,556 posts)
15. In all seriousness, why aren't these the stories we're hearing in the media.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:44 AM
Nov 2013

Send your experience to Scott Pelly,CBS, Brian Wiliams, NBC and Diane Sawyer at ABC. Tell them you're tired of them only headlining the negative stories about the web site, and people having their crappy policies canceled.

RedCloud

(9,230 posts)
16. Repugs are but puppets of their Health "Care" mogul masters.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:46 AM
Nov 2013

That's all we need to say about them. They regurgitate their propaganda with glee. And their puppet masters pass the cost of their campaign bribes onto us with rate increases.

marble falls

(56,956 posts)
17. The insurance industries love at least 90% of the ACA, they get what they really wanted .....
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:04 AM
Nov 2013

for years - everybody in the risk pool. What they don't like is spending 80% of premiums on health care, but they can happily live with that limit.

PCIntern

(25,459 posts)
29. Why would I want to do that?
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 01:42 PM
Nov 2013

It was designed to get everyone to read it, since I think it is a BFD. It's the 'hook', as it were...

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
38. Please so what Poster from #15 asks...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:17 AM
Nov 2013

Please.....Please....Please.. If James Brown was alive he’d be asking too.... Maybe

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
34. See!!! Causing companies the undue burden of having to decide what to do with the savings.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:09 PM
Nov 2013

So unfair, making you decide what to do with those funds!!!

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
39. I hope you can use some of the savings to donate to campaigns. It's how big biz gives
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 01:34 AM
Nov 2013

so much money to the republicans. They donated a ton of money, get them elected, and then the elected officials get a law passed/earmark/tax deduction to give them their money back fivefold. Until we can overturn Citizens United we'll be facing an uphill battle with donations.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
40. Or as Fox News would say, "Obamacare impacts Dentists Practice"
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 01:50 AM
Nov 2013

We have this Dentist who appears to be a fine American, a faithful Phillies fan who now has to take his focus away from patient care in order to determine how to manage the Obamacare penalty of almost negative $2,000 per month.

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