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The word "guy," as used today to indicate a "man, fellow, person, individual, creature," didn't exist in 1605. In fact, even the name Guy, a name with Norman French origins given to poor Guy Fawkes by his parents in 1570, was relatively rare in England at the time, according to the book "Remember, Remember" by James Sharpe "Guy" himself had actually given up the name in 1603 and went by the name "Guido" instead.
With the arrest of Guy Fawkes shortly after midnight on November 5 1605 (a tip-off to a Catholic member of parliament led to an inspection of the cellars under parliament), however, it soon became an infamous name.
Fawkes originally gave his captors the name "John Johnson," but after a couple of days of horrific torture in the Tower of London, he gave himself and his co-conspirators up. He was hung, drawn, and quartered, with his remains sent to the four corners of the kingdom as a warning to future plotters.
What's more, November 5 was immediately established as a day of celebration, and while little is known about how exactly it was celebrated then, it gradually evolved into a nationalistic night of fireworks and bonfires, with effigies of Catholic figures such as Fawkes and even the Pope set alight.
Because of this tradition, the word "guy" began to be used in England to mean "effigy" and later came to be used in a pejorative sense to describe a man ("he's a bad guy" or a usually a "weirdly dressed person," according to Parliament's history of Guy Fawkes Night.
At some point it spread to the United States, where, perhaps due to the lack of context, it began to be used in a wide variety of ways, not all negative. That American English usage later returned to United Kingdom, where it became common to use it to mean "man" or "person."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/guy-fawkes-created-the-word-guy-2013-11
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Thank you.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)intaglio
(8,170 posts)The trouble is that guisers (pron. gy - zers) were common folk performers in Britain from about the 15th C (1400) frequently seen about the time of Halloween. They were dressed in rags and tatters and burnt in effigy on bonfires.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)The UK is preparing to celebrate an evening of great British terrorism by burning effigies of Guy Fawkes the countrys most famous terrorist on bonfires the length and breadth of the country.
As the world cowers from the threat of global terror organisations, the UK will enjoy a night spent extolling the virtues of Guy Fawkes, the man who invented the very genre of domestic terrorism.
Al Qaeda think they invented blowing stuff up? said one bonfire party planner.
Not a chance. We Brits were planning world-class explosions four hundred years ago while they were still living in caves. Well, worse caves.
Even now they havent found a good way of doing it without blowing themselves up at the same time, the bloody amateurs.
http://newsthump.com/2009/11/05/uk-set-to-celebrate-night-of-home-grown-terrorism/
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Me...
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
longship
(40,416 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Guy Fawkes day. Apparently a Catholic ideologue. Conveniently, his history has faded into cultural obscurity.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Prior to having only two classes of attorneys in modern England (barristers and solicitors), there were also proctors. Guy Fawkes' father was an attorney in the "proctor" class.
Sir Guy Fairfax came from a well-connected family and his name was known in the York area for about 75 years before Guy Fawkes was born in 1570. Cf. The Peerage of Scotland by George Crawfurd.
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004896390.0001.000/1:48?rgn=div1;view=fulltext