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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDeserves its own thread. Google search link of Democrats who supported Chris Christie. Stunning.
Does not bode well for the future of education since Christie takes pleasure in in yelling at teachers in public
Here is the google search link....amazing and shocking.
https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=democrats+endorse+christie
A few examples:
Democrats who endorsed Christie now appearing in mailers with the governor
Christie touts 50th Democratic endorsement
Chris Christie Reelection Backed Increasingly By Democrats
This is a crying shame.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)Those were incredibly captivating photo-ops for Christie, and in fact I cannot think of Christie except as given a push from Obama.
Small wonder that a lot of Dems saw the writing on the wall and took the well-greased passage.
It's a fucking shame, anyhow.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)to strong arm politicians. N.J. does have a history of that 'good old boy' northern style when it comes to convincing people.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)You are so right.
TheKentuckian
(25,020 posts)without the aid of a telescope and tea bagging loon in easy eyeshot.
davepc
(3,936 posts)Christie will take care of his friends who paved the way for an easy election.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Apparently some folks are just now getting the news.
That kind of politics goes on in Florida as well. I keep hoping for change.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)As people who would be more than happy to work with Obama. There was even a template print add from RCCC explicitly asking Obama voters to vote GOP down-ticket.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)This is really awful. We have to stop both Christie and Hillary and get a real Democrat to win.
De Blasio? Elizabeth Warren? Bernie Sanders?
Who?
Alan Grayson might be a good opponent for Chris Christie.
SchmerzImArsch
(49 posts)Christie will be far more adept than Willard was at etch-a-sketching his Teabaggery away after the primaries.
Oh, well.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I don't see anyone stopping Ted Cruz for the pug nomination.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Where do you vote?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Where do you vote? Did you support Christie or the Democrat? It is a simple, direct pair of questions. Rather then get all huffy why not answer the questions which are directly related to the topic of this thread?
You were asked a yes or no question. Not a trick question, not 'when did you stop beating your spouse' but a simple 'which candidate had your support'.
I guess your reaction lets us know the answer to that.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I do not live in New Jersey.
I live across the river in NYC. That is clearly indicated in my profile.
Why would you spend the time and effort to make ridiculous assumptions and accusations when the information is so readily available?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)People ask direct questions because they don't want to assume. This is not the Hannity show Steve. A question from your peers is a simple question, not an accusation.
Your profile does not indicate who had your support last night. But don't bother answering, you are not worth pulling teeth, thought you'd just discuss it like a person.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)On edit, I do not like Christie, I have never liked Christie.
The few times I have had the chance to talk about him on TV, I have attacked him relentlessly.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I mean, he won with Republican votes.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)That is the DLC dream. Water down the message of the Democratic Party so that it appeals to rich people and Republicans.
That is why I so strongly oppose the DLC mentality.
The DLC is Republican not Democratic.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)He wouldn't have won if it weren't for Sandy.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)support Christie -- the guy who publicly cozied up to Obama. I suspect after a bloody primary fight against an extreme nutcase or two, he'll be forced to put a Cruz or some other equally disreputable
dirtbag on the ticket to appease the far right. Should be interesting.
JHB
(37,154 posts)They've been voting against their horror-fantasies of Democrats for decades now. That will run out of steam eventually, but you can't count on it yet.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)They will happily attempt to nominate people who have zero chance in general elections. That is the lesson we have seen over and over again the last several years.
JHB
(37,154 posts)...they'll still back whatever elephant's ass who does win the nomination to save the country from The Peoples Republic of Democrat Usurpery Radical Leftism du jour.
"Anybody but Romney" stopped once "Anybody but Obama" started.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)they thought Romney wasn't conservative enough. They think Christie isn't conservative enough, AND is a traitor who worked with Obama.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Many of them hated Mitt far more than Christie. Which is why Mitt lost. The only folks who are focused on the post Sandy photo Ops are Obama's ardents, who are sure that defines Christie for Republicans. Christie just now won and election as a Republican. This indicates they do not see him as a traitor, but as worthy of election to a second term.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)point. They are Republicans. There is no such Party as Tea. Republicans existed in 2008 just as they do today. I call a Republican a Republican, even if they claim to be an eclair. Even if those they pay to insist they are eclairs claim they are eclairs.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)in its radical viewpoints and choices and this allows it to be completely self-deluding in many aspects including what is possible with a given electorate.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)They came up with a cute name to distract simple minds. There is no new 'distinct entity' there is just the Republican Party with cute names for their subgroups. They are not a different entity, they are part of the Republican Party. The Bircher Faction we called them in the old days.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I am not suggesting these voters 'dropped out of the sky'. They were very right wing voters before the tea party and they are very right wing voters now.
But the fact is that these folks have distinctly different behaviors now that they have this pack that they are running in. They think the Tea Party association gives them power, they think they are somehow a majority of the GOP and they think that their views are shared by a majority of the country.
What they DO have is that they have a higher turnout rate in Republican primaries than the generic Republican voter. They're far from a majority but when they vote in blocks, they can and often have made the difference in primary votes.
They gave frothy mix the win in the 2012 Iowa caucus when he was outspent by Romney by some ridiculous margin, like 20-1 or something like that. Now, you can ignore that if you like, and make assumptions without factoring that in, but Christie has zero chance against Cruz in Iowa, New Hampshire or the Carolinas. Cruz is exactly what the Tea Party wants AND will be heavily funded by the Koch brothers as he has been completely carrying water for them over the past year or so.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)No matter how many times you claim there is a 'distinct entity' called the Tea Party, they are still just the same old far right wing Republicans. They are not even the base of that Party, they are the far right wing of that Party.
You are just stuck on what they GOP tells you. There is no Party called the Tea Party. They are all just Republicans. Eastern and Southern Republicans for the most part. A regional affinity group at best, far from an actual political Party.
I personally do not support Republican candidates. Some do. Can't blame them for being hesitant to say , but most of the Moderates from your area were touting Christie on DU. The 'deep pockets' were all with Chris. Obama did not lift a finger for the Democrat. I find all of that to be unacceptable.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)You don't need me in the conversation if you are going to do that.
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)to the polls in big enough numbers to make PBO work for it last year.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Just using FR as an example, this is what Christie is thought of in teabagger circles:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3088081/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087930/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087410/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087073/posts
When you look at Romney's posts over there from 2006-2008, there were plenty of folks speaking up for him. Majority definitely against him.
There is a reason I lurk on a lot of these conservative forums and it isn't because I enjoy it, I can tell you that.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Repulsive.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)voters will reject his Hollywood persona and "Gipper" throwback and understand he hates working men and women as much as the rest of the GOPers do.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)A violent man.
Thank you for a great OP and thread, madflordian!
Lots of "Democrats" seem to be allied with the Bully Set, including big names.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Hi there.
This whole thing about Dems being buddy buddy with Republicans sounds way too much like Florida to me.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)There is no sense in being friends with the same crowd who want to steal the middle class blind and use the poor for cannon fodder and target practice. What happens is they come back to stab us in the back when we need them -- and that is the BEST thing that happens.
We need to practice what Truman said: Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time.
An interesting saying I heard recently:
"Republicans fear their base. Democrats hate theirs."
a kennedy
(29,615 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)that apparently, "the Cooch's" people asked CC to come down to old Virginny and stump for him. Christie said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
So much for "joining hands and coming together for the common good" - he can't even do that for his own party!
Oh, and K&R.
Baitball Blogger
(46,682 posts)Can you imagine that temper flaring in a meeting with foreign leaders?
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)spanone
(135,791 posts)fredamae
(4,458 posts)will fly nationally.....
And perhaps this is the best way to funnel a nationally unacceptable "acceptable" GOP candidate to the trough????
His record is very unappealing to the greater majority. MSM is trying to "desensitize" Us (and they'll take their time over Months to do so) to Embrace the idea of a Christie run.
Can you imagine him dealing with an International Crises with arrogant leaders from Other countries like he does with his constituents who challenge him??? Or other State leaders here? Lol...
Christie has too much baggage-MSM won't discuss it/inform the electorate-so it's up to Us to stay informed.
Wage inequality/veto of a .$50 cent ph wage Inc? Are you kidding? $8.25 ph is NOTHING and he still said No?
Womens rights
Education Crises
Unions
etc's
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)When Shrub came to office, the Dems held the legislature. The TX Guv doesn't hold that much power, the Senate and House leaders pulled the strings. With the Dem leaders' help, a lot of things were done that W took credit for that he really only supported once they were a done deal. The MSM, with exceptions like Molly Ivins, fell all over themselves for the "aw shucks", bidnessman facade and see what we got.
Christie is trying to follow in the same mold and we would be well advised to work our butts off to puncture him now. One saving grace is that the GOP is nothing like it was in 2000 and CC's bipartisanship is a liability in the primaries. In some ways, PBO's hands-off in the NJ race is a much bigger minus to the GOP base than it would be a plus in a head-to-head with HRC or any Dem candidate. Don't think for one second that PBO won't campaign hard for the nominee in 2016. Noone will make the mistake of shying away from the President. VA shows us that even a flawed candidate can win against the GOP if they turn out the DEM base and spend the money necessary to highlight the true character of the GOP candidate.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Democrats went to NJ but they all went to VA many times with film stars and the works. It does not bode well for midterms or the Presidential. I guess NJ was too far to go in a private jet.
Dorian Gray
(13,479 posts)he has a decent working relationship with many of the Democrats in the state. I think that they were hesitant to endorse fellow dems. It's a shame, though he was so popular after Sandy that I can understand why people didn't necessarily want to rock the boat. I'm sad for my former home state, though.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)They are all of like mind about privatizing education. Makes them twice as powerful in the role of "reformers".
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Republican Party leadership can for a third time in a row convince the Party to nominate someone the base does not want with the message that this is the only one who can win. They made that argument in 2008. They made that case in 2012. They will try very hard to make that case in 2016. Are there enough of the crazies and are they strong enough to push back. Time will tell. I think that when it comes to the early primaries - the crazies will be out in strength - however - It is not going to be just Ted Cruz - it will be a handful of nuts who might split the lunatic vote and give an opening to Christie. I hope not - but it is one plausible scenario.
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)knowing she would probably lose...actively supporting this fesetering sack of bullying you-know-what is unconsciousable.
leftstreet
(36,098 posts)DURec
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)here on DU.
Did any prominent Democrat on the national stage endorse her?