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Deserves its own thread. Google search link of Democrats who supported Chris Christie. Stunning. (Original Post) madfloridian Nov 2013 OP
Hypocrisy tends to be in vogue. nt adirondacker Nov 2013 #1
I didn't know shit about Christie until Hurricane Sandy and he joined with Pres. Obama. delrem Nov 2013 #2
Considering how Christie's temper surfaces I wonder if some of that rage is used in private Lint Head Nov 2013 #3
Or made promises to them they couldn't resist. madfloridian Nov 2013 #7
Zackly! Lint Head Nov 2013 #61
moderate republican who works with democrats my ass. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #4
Nothing moderate about a man who yells at teachers. madfloridian Nov 2013 #5
He's could be affable as hell and he still wouldn't be able to even see moderate TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #14
Machine politics is alive and well here davepc Nov 2013 #6
Yup. NJ politics have always been corrupt. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #51
..... madfloridian Nov 2013 #60
It may seem inconceivable today, but in 2008 some GOP House candidates ran Recursion Nov 2013 #8
This is disgusting. He will run for president in 2016. And Hillary will be weak in comparison. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #9
The fix is in for Hillary. SchmerzImArsch Nov 2013 #13
The teabaggers will stop Christie. He has zero chance of winning any of the first few primaries. stevenleser Nov 2013 #20
Did you support Christie in NJ last night? Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #25
Do you still beat your significant other? nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #27
Never did. This thread is about Democrats supporting Christie. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #36
Do you ever do even the most basic research? All you need to do is click on my profile. stevenleser Nov 2013 #38
Who had your support in the elction last night? Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #41
I supported Buono, McCauliffe and DeBlasio in the races last night. stevenleser Nov 2013 #42
Republicans consider Chris Christie to be a TRAITOR for being buddy buddy with Obama. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #10
Then why did he just win a large victory? Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #26
Sorry, he won because of Democratic voters. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #46
He won because of a mix of Republican and Democratic voters. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #62
Jersey isn't a Red State. He won there by walking on the beach with Obama.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #57
Teabaggers aren't going to be lining up to LibDemAlways Nov 2013 #11
The key question isn't whether they'll line up, but if they'll fall in line JHB Nov 2013 #16
They don't believe in falling in line. That is the Frankenstein's monster the GOP created. stevenleser Nov 2013 #21
We've also seen that if they get out maneuvered in the nominating... JHB Nov 2013 #23
I'm not sure that's true. Also, they disliked Romney. They hate Christie. stevenleser Nov 2013 #24
They also said 'anybody but McCain' and then he was the nominee. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #28
The Tea party did not exist in 2008. nt stevenleser Nov 2013 #30
There have always been radical right wing Repubicans, the name they use is very beside any actual Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #39
No, it makes a big difference. The far right now has a distinct entity that is self reinforcing stevenleser Nov 2013 #40
You are buying GOP public relations crap. Those voters did not drop out of the sky. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #44
No, I am not suggesting that. You are not listening to what I am saying. stevenleser Nov 2013 #50
No, I am reading what you are typing and rejecting it. You are just buying the GOP spin. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #53
No, you are not discussing what I am writing, you are inventing other things to talk about. stevenleser Nov 2013 #54
Mitt was a freaking CULT LEADER in their eyes, but it still drove them bullwinkle428 Nov 2013 #33
No, there was disagreement about Romney. There is no disagreement regarding Christie stevenleser Nov 2013 #37
The guy is just plain repulsive. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #12
du rec. xchrom Nov 2013 #15
You have to understand, a lot of people like the mafioso image CC portrays. Hopefully, thinking kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #17
What kind of man yells at a woman like that? Octafish Nov 2013 #18
Octafish! madfloridian Nov 2013 #52
Absolutely chummy chums. Octafish Nov 2013 #55
Typical blow hard..... a kennedy Nov 2013 #19
K&R Brickbat Nov 2013 #22
Christie is a gigantic hypocrite, Part 3679: A report surfaced last night bullwinkle428 Nov 2013 #29
He does seem like a toxic leader. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #31
Sometimes it amazes me that Democrats EVER win an election Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #32
anyone have links to republicans supporting democrats? didn't think so. spanone Nov 2013 #34
I doubt this phenom fredamae Nov 2013 #35
Not quite the same but to a degree similar to the way W was handled in Texas bigbrother05 Nov 2013 #43
Did Obama even verbally endorse the Democrat? My impression from the West Coast is that no leading Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #49
In NJ Dorian Gray Nov 2013 #45
That's why there is such danger to public education. madfloridian Nov 2013 #47
McCain and Romney were loathed by most the GOP base too. The question is whether the established Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #48
K & R ctsnowman Nov 2013 #56
Takes Democratic complicity to a whole new level...it's one thing not supporting Buono joeybee12 Nov 2013 #58
Disgusting leftstreet Nov 2013 #59
Disgusting. I guess they were being 'pragmatic'. I'm already seeing excuses for this total betrayal sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #63

delrem

(9,688 posts)
2. I didn't know shit about Christie until Hurricane Sandy and he joined with Pres. Obama.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 01:49 AM
Nov 2013

Those were incredibly captivating photo-ops for Christie, and in fact I cannot think of Christie except as given a push from Obama.
Small wonder that a lot of Dems saw the writing on the wall and took the well-greased passage.

It's a fucking shame, anyhow.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
3. Considering how Christie's temper surfaces I wonder if some of that rage is used in private
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 01:50 AM
Nov 2013

to strong arm politicians. N.J. does have a history of that 'good old boy' northern style when it comes to convincing people.

TheKentuckian

(25,020 posts)
14. He's could be affable as hell and he still wouldn't be able to even see moderate
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:51 AM
Nov 2013

without the aid of a telescope and tea bagging loon in easy eyeshot.

davepc

(3,936 posts)
6. Machine politics is alive and well here
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 02:32 AM
Nov 2013

Christie will take care of his friends who paved the way for an easy election.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. It may seem inconceivable today, but in 2008 some GOP House candidates ran
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 03:37 AM
Nov 2013

As people who would be more than happy to work with Obama. There was even a template print add from RCCC explicitly asking Obama voters to vote GOP down-ticket.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
9. This is disgusting. He will run for president in 2016. And Hillary will be weak in comparison.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 04:00 AM
Nov 2013

This is really awful. We have to stop both Christie and Hillary and get a real Democrat to win.

De Blasio? Elizabeth Warren? Bernie Sanders?

Who?

Alan Grayson might be a good opponent for Chris Christie.

 

SchmerzImArsch

(49 posts)
13. The fix is in for Hillary.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 04:40 AM
Nov 2013

Christie will be far more adept than Willard was at etch-a-sketching his Teabaggery away after the primaries.

Oh, well.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
20. The teabaggers will stop Christie. He has zero chance of winning any of the first few primaries.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:25 AM
Nov 2013

I don't see anyone stopping Ted Cruz for the pug nomination.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
36. Never did. This thread is about Democrats supporting Christie.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:30 AM
Nov 2013

Where do you vote? Did you support Christie or the Democrat? It is a simple, direct pair of questions. Rather then get all huffy why not answer the questions which are directly related to the topic of this thread?
You were asked a yes or no question. Not a trick question, not 'when did you stop beating your spouse' but a simple 'which candidate had your support'.
I guess your reaction lets us know the answer to that.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
38. Do you ever do even the most basic research? All you need to do is click on my profile.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:34 AM
Nov 2013

I do not live in New Jersey.

I live across the river in NYC. That is clearly indicated in my profile.

Why would you spend the time and effort to make ridiculous assumptions and accusations when the information is so readily available?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
41. Who had your support in the elction last night?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:39 AM
Nov 2013

People ask direct questions because they don't want to assume. This is not the Hannity show Steve. A question from your peers is a simple question, not an accusation.
Your profile does not indicate who had your support last night. But don't bother answering, you are not worth pulling teeth, thought you'd just discuss it like a person.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
42. I supported Buono, McCauliffe and DeBlasio in the races last night.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:41 AM
Nov 2013

On edit, I do not like Christie, I have never liked Christie.

The few times I have had the chance to talk about him on TV, I have attacked him relentlessly.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
62. He won because of a mix of Republican and Democratic voters.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 03:17 PM
Nov 2013

That is the DLC dream. Water down the message of the Democratic Party so that it appeals to rich people and Republicans.

That is why I so strongly oppose the DLC mentality.

The DLC is Republican not Democratic.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
57. Jersey isn't a Red State. He won there by walking on the beach with Obama....
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:12 PM
Nov 2013

He wouldn't have won if it weren't for Sandy.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
11. Teabaggers aren't going to be lining up to
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 04:19 AM
Nov 2013

support Christie -- the guy who publicly cozied up to Obama. I suspect after a bloody primary fight against an extreme nutcase or two, he'll be forced to put a Cruz or some other equally disreputable
dirtbag on the ticket to appease the far right. Should be interesting.

JHB

(37,154 posts)
16. The key question isn't whether they'll line up, but if they'll fall in line
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:58 AM
Nov 2013

They've been voting against their horror-fantasies of Democrats for decades now. That will run out of steam eventually, but you can't count on it yet.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
21. They don't believe in falling in line. That is the Frankenstein's monster the GOP created.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:26 AM
Nov 2013

They will happily attempt to nominate people who have zero chance in general elections. That is the lesson we have seen over and over again the last several years.

JHB

(37,154 posts)
23. We've also seen that if they get out maneuvered in the nominating...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:02 AM
Nov 2013

...they'll still back whatever elephant's ass who does win the nomination to save the country from The Peoples Republic of Democrat Usurpery Radical Leftism du jour.

"Anybody but Romney" stopped once "Anybody but Obama" started.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
24. I'm not sure that's true. Also, they disliked Romney. They hate Christie.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:06 AM
Nov 2013

they thought Romney wasn't conservative enough. They think Christie isn't conservative enough, AND is a traitor who worked with Obama.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
28. They also said 'anybody but McCain' and then he was the nominee.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:25 AM
Nov 2013

Many of them hated Mitt far more than Christie. Which is why Mitt lost. The only folks who are focused on the post Sandy photo Ops are Obama's ardents, who are sure that defines Christie for Republicans. Christie just now won and election as a Republican. This indicates they do not see him as a traitor, but as worthy of election to a second term.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
39. There have always been radical right wing Repubicans, the name they use is very beside any actual
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:35 AM
Nov 2013

point. They are Republicans. There is no such Party as Tea. Republicans existed in 2008 just as they do today. I call a Republican a Republican, even if they claim to be an eclair. Even if those they pay to insist they are eclairs claim they are eclairs.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
40. No, it makes a big difference. The far right now has a distinct entity that is self reinforcing
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:36 AM
Nov 2013

in its radical viewpoints and choices and this allows it to be completely self-deluding in many aspects including what is possible with a given electorate.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
44. You are buying GOP public relations crap. Those voters did not drop out of the sky.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:48 AM
Nov 2013

They came up with a cute name to distract simple minds. There is no new 'distinct entity' there is just the Republican Party with cute names for their subgroups. They are not a different entity, they are part of the Republican Party. The Bircher Faction we called them in the old days.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
50. No, I am not suggesting that. You are not listening to what I am saying.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:58 AM
Nov 2013

I am not suggesting these voters 'dropped out of the sky'. They were very right wing voters before the tea party and they are very right wing voters now.

But the fact is that these folks have distinctly different behaviors now that they have this pack that they are running in. They think the Tea Party association gives them power, they think they are somehow a majority of the GOP and they think that their views are shared by a majority of the country.

What they DO have is that they have a higher turnout rate in Republican primaries than the generic Republican voter. They're far from a majority but when they vote in blocks, they can and often have made the difference in primary votes.

They gave frothy mix the win in the 2012 Iowa caucus when he was outspent by Romney by some ridiculous margin, like 20-1 or something like that. Now, you can ignore that if you like, and make assumptions without factoring that in, but Christie has zero chance against Cruz in Iowa, New Hampshire or the Carolinas. Cruz is exactly what the Tea Party wants AND will be heavily funded by the Koch brothers as he has been completely carrying water for them over the past year or so.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
53. No, I am reading what you are typing and rejecting it. You are just buying the GOP spin.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:11 AM
Nov 2013

No matter how many times you claim there is a 'distinct entity' called the Tea Party, they are still just the same old far right wing Republicans. They are not even the base of that Party, they are the far right wing of that Party.
You are just stuck on what they GOP tells you. There is no Party called the Tea Party. They are all just Republicans. Eastern and Southern Republicans for the most part. A regional affinity group at best, far from an actual political Party.
I personally do not support Republican candidates. Some do. Can't blame them for being hesitant to say , but most of the Moderates from your area were touting Christie on DU. The 'deep pockets' were all with Chris. Obama did not lift a finger for the Democrat. I find all of that to be unacceptable.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
54. No, you are not discussing what I am writing, you are inventing other things to talk about.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:16 AM
Nov 2013

You don't need me in the conversation if you are going to do that.

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
33. Mitt was a freaking CULT LEADER in their eyes, but it still drove them
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:28 AM
Nov 2013

to the polls in big enough numbers to make PBO work for it last year.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
37. No, there was disagreement about Romney. There is no disagreement regarding Christie
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:30 AM
Nov 2013

Just using FR as an example, this is what Christie is thought of in teabagger circles:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3088081/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087930/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087410/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087073/posts

When you look at Romney's posts over there from 2006-2008, there were plenty of folks speaking up for him. Majority definitely against him.

There is a reason I lurk on a lot of these conservative forums and it isn't because I enjoy it, I can tell you that.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
17. You have to understand, a lot of people like the mafioso image CC portrays. Hopefully, thinking
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:00 AM
Nov 2013

voters will reject his Hollywood persona and "Gipper" throwback and understand he hates working men and women as much as the rest of the GOPers do.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
18. What kind of man yells at a woman like that?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:17 AM
Nov 2013

A violent man.

Thank you for a great OP and thread, madflordian!

Lots of "Democrats" seem to be allied with the Bully Set, including big names.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
52. Octafish!
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:05 AM
Nov 2013

Hi there.

This whole thing about Dems being buddy buddy with Republicans sounds way too much like Florida to me.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
55. Absolutely chummy chums.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:24 AM
Nov 2013

There is no sense in being friends with the same crowd who want to steal the middle class blind and use the poor for cannon fodder and target practice. What happens is they come back to stab us in the back when we need them -- and that is the BEST thing that happens.

We need to practice what Truman said: “Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time”.

An interesting saying I heard recently:



"Republicans fear their base. Democrats hate theirs."

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
29. Christie is a gigantic hypocrite, Part 3679: A report surfaced last night
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:25 AM
Nov 2013

that apparently, "the Cooch's" people asked CC to come down to old Virginny and stump for him. Christie said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

So much for "joining hands and coming together for the common good" - he can't even do that for his own party!

Oh, and K&R.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
35. I doubt this phenom
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:29 AM
Nov 2013

will fly nationally.....
And perhaps this is the best way to funnel a nationally unacceptable "acceptable" GOP candidate to the trough????

His record is very unappealing to the greater majority. MSM is trying to "desensitize" Us (and they'll take their time over Months to do so) to Embrace the idea of a Christie run.
Can you imagine him dealing with an International Crises with arrogant leaders from Other countries like he does with his constituents who challenge him??? Or other State leaders here? Lol...

Christie has too much baggage-MSM won't discuss it/inform the electorate-so it's up to Us to stay informed.
Wage inequality/veto of a .$50 cent ph wage Inc? Are you kidding? $8.25 ph is NOTHING and he still said No?
Womens rights
Education Crises
Unions
etc's

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
43. Not quite the same but to a degree similar to the way W was handled in Texas
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:45 AM
Nov 2013

When Shrub came to office, the Dems held the legislature. The TX Guv doesn't hold that much power, the Senate and House leaders pulled the strings. With the Dem leaders' help, a lot of things were done that W took credit for that he really only supported once they were a done deal. The MSM, with exceptions like Molly Ivins, fell all over themselves for the "aw shucks", bidnessman facade and see what we got.

Christie is trying to follow in the same mold and we would be well advised to work our butts off to puncture him now. One saving grace is that the GOP is nothing like it was in 2000 and CC's bipartisanship is a liability in the primaries. In some ways, PBO's hands-off in the NJ race is a much bigger minus to the GOP base than it would be a plus in a head-to-head with HRC or any Dem candidate. Don't think for one second that PBO won't campaign hard for the nominee in 2016. Noone will make the mistake of shying away from the President. VA shows us that even a flawed candidate can win against the GOP if they turn out the DEM base and spend the money necessary to highlight the true character of the GOP candidate.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
49. Did Obama even verbally endorse the Democrat? My impression from the West Coast is that no leading
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:58 AM
Nov 2013

Democrats went to NJ but they all went to VA many times with film stars and the works. It does not bode well for midterms or the Presidential. I guess NJ was too far to go in a private jet.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
45. In NJ
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:48 AM
Nov 2013

he has a decent working relationship with many of the Democrats in the state. I think that they were hesitant to endorse fellow dems. It's a shame, though he was so popular after Sandy that I can understand why people didn't necessarily want to rock the boat. I'm sad for my former home state, though.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
47. That's why there is such danger to public education.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:52 AM
Nov 2013

They are all of like mind about privatizing education. Makes them twice as powerful in the role of "reformers".

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
48. McCain and Romney were loathed by most the GOP base too. The question is whether the established
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:56 AM
Nov 2013

Republican Party leadership can for a third time in a row convince the Party to nominate someone the base does not want with the message that this is the only one who can win. They made that argument in 2008. They made that case in 2012. They will try very hard to make that case in 2016. Are there enough of the crazies and are they strong enough to push back. Time will tell. I think that when it comes to the early primaries - the crazies will be out in strength - however - It is not going to be just Ted Cruz - it will be a handful of nuts who might split the lunatic vote and give an opening to Christie. I hope not - but it is one plausible scenario.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
58. Takes Democratic complicity to a whole new level...it's one thing not supporting Buono
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:14 PM
Nov 2013

knowing she would probably lose...actively supporting this fesetering sack of bullying you-know-what is unconsciousable.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
63. Disgusting. I guess they were being 'pragmatic'. I'm already seeing excuses for this total betrayal
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:30 AM
Nov 2013

here on DU.

Did any prominent Democrat on the national stage endorse her?

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