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littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:14 AM Nov 2013

police taze and arrest father as he tries to save 3 yr old son in fire.

http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/police-tased-arrested-father-as-he-tried-to-save-his-3-year-old-son-from-house-fire/

LOUISIANA, MISSOURI – Police tased and arrested a desperate father as he tried to kick in the front door of his house to save his 3-year-old child from burning alive. As toddler was taken to the morgue, his father was taken to jail for trying to save him.
On the morning of November 1st, Ryan and Cathy Miller woke up in the middle of the night, overwhelmed with smoke. Their house was ablaze. They were forced out through back door, but their son, Riley, was still inside.

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Step-father Ryan Miller circled the house to attempt to enter in through the front door, while Cathy placed a 9-1-1 call. The call was recorded at 12:58 a.m., and first-responders promptly arrived at the scene at 1:03 a.m.
As Ryan attempted to break through the locked front door, he was restrained by the very police officers that were called to help. Ryan was tased three times, then arrested. Ryan was forced to watch as the fire consumed the home.

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By the time the fire department finally arrived on the scene the fire had become too hot for them to enter. The family was shocked by the actions of the officers.
Later, when the fire was brought under control, Riley was found laying dead at the doorway of his room.

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“He tried to get back in the house to get the baby,” grandmother Lori Miller told KHQA. “They took my son to jail because he tried to save his son.”
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police taze and arrest father as he tries to save 3 yr old son in fire. (Original Post) littlewolf Nov 2013 OP
There are no words. Nt Tien1985 Nov 2013 #1
Arrested him on what charges? What jury would convict him? How much will he get by suing? Scuba Nov 2013 #2
Those cops might as well have killed that child. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #3
Horrible. hamsterjill Nov 2013 #4
The truly horrible, is he may very well have saved that baby, too. With the early start. I agree. Nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #10
He's dying inside now lame54 Nov 2013 #12
There's a non human level of evil drooled all over this story uponit7771 Nov 2013 #5
Found another link about this Beaverhausen Nov 2013 #6
Thanks... pipi_k Nov 2013 #9
Here's the thing... pipi_k Nov 2013 #7
See my link above. You are correct. Beaverhausen Nov 2013 #8
my take is this littlewolf Nov 2013 #11
Here is another link NOT from a website called "police state usa" Beaverhausen Nov 2013 #14
Customary and necessary to restrain the parent One_Life_To_Give Nov 2013 #13
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. Arrested him on what charges? What jury would convict him? How much will he get by suing?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:46 AM
Nov 2013

The stupid, it burns.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
3. Those cops might as well have killed that child.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:14 AM
Nov 2013

How much longer are we going to put up with these horrible cops? I'm sure the ones who tasered that father will be suspended with pay for a week or so and then they'll be back on the streets.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
4. Horrible.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:51 AM
Nov 2013

The man is an adult. If it was his choice to enter into the burning house to save his child (and the fact that he's a step-parent brought tears to my eyes!!) he should be allowed to go in. He may very well have died in the fire like the son, but if it was his choice to die while trying, I would respect that choice. And would probably do the same thing if it were my child.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. The truly horrible, is he may very well have saved that baby, too. With the early start. I agree. Nt
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:14 PM
Nov 2013

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
6. Found another link about this
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:54 AM
Nov 2013

Said father was restrained because the fire was too hot and it was too dangerous for him or them to try to rescue the boy.

Edit- this story also did not say the father was arrested.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/2013/11/01/boy-killed-in-louisiana-mo-house-fire/3358913/

Tragic story all around.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
9. Thanks...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:03 PM
Nov 2013

I was busy typing out my reply below and so I missed this.

But yeah...no first responder in his right mind would allow someone to go into an inferno. Especially when it's apparent that whoever might be inside could already be dead.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
7. Here's the thing...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:59 AM
Nov 2013

It's possible that, by the time police arrived, the house could have been burning with such intensity that it would be apparent that anyone still inside would already be dead from smoke inhalation.

In which case, the father going in to get his son would have forced a rescuer to risk his/her own life to get HIM.

It's tragic that the kid died, but the father's arrest (and tasering, probably because he was wild with grief and uncontrollable...which I understand) may have prevented the loss of more lives.

It's a possibility. But once again, people react based on limited information and because they want to believe the very worst about first responders.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
11. my take is this
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 01:59 PM
Nov 2013

the first person on scene was the police.
police are not trained to determine if a fire
is to dangerous to enter.
firemen do that. this happened at the onset of
the fire, the father very well could have
made the rescue, it was HIS right to try.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
13. Customary and necessary to restrain the parent
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 03:23 PM
Nov 2013

Why you press charges afterwards is beyond me. But it is hardly uncommon to have to restrain a parent from getting themselves killed trying to rescue someone who has likely already perished. Some times you have to realize when the only thing a parents action will do is add another body to be recovered.

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