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The polling showing McAuliffe with a big lead reduced Dem voter turnout (Original Post) ZRT2209 Nov 2013 OP
where are you getting this from CatWoman Nov 2013 #1
Absolutely!! The corporate media played a HUGE part in reducing turnout Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #2
that's my thought exactly ZRT2209 Nov 2013 #3
We also hear the opposite, i.e. polls showing the candidate behind depress turnout Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #5
That could be because both being far ahead and far behind reduces the urgency for many voters. last1standing Nov 2013 #19
That doesn't say much for Democratic voters. Ron Green Nov 2013 #4
Yeah right! We're depressed when we're behind, we lazy when we're ahead. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #6
You never hear Heather MC Nov 2013 #9
If true, they are idiots, especially since what has been going on since 2000. Except I don't buy it lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #7
I think maybe McAuliffe reduced Dem voter turnout. Vincardog Nov 2013 #8
Everyone I spoke with said, "I am not excited about Terry but... Heather MC Nov 2013 #11
Bingo that is what happens when you run Corporate Democrats instead of real ones. Vincardog Nov 2013 #14
I wasn't excited about Terry back in 08 when I first heard Heather MC Nov 2013 #16
How long have you lived in Virginia? onenote Nov 2013 #21
I don't think there is any evidence of that onenote Nov 2013 #20
no JI7 Nov 2013 #10
I'd keep digging for election fraud, 'cause I know the Republicans. Scuba Nov 2013 #12
I was thinking the same thing Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #13
Slightly higher than the previous two governor's race. onenote Nov 2013 #22
If true, it's pathetic. nt City Lights Nov 2013 #15
shit plus the fucking msm kept on saying all day gopiscrap Nov 2013 #17
You may think you know that, but you don't. onenote Nov 2013 #18
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
2. Absolutely!! The corporate media played a HUGE part in reducing turnout
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:15 PM
Nov 2013

among Dems who reasoned...

oh, well McAwful got this in the bag; I'm not too enthused with him anyway. So if he's going to win, I'll just stay home...

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
5. We also hear the opposite, i.e. polls showing the candidate behind depress turnout
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:17 PM
Nov 2013

The only constant is -- someone complains.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
19. That could be because both being far ahead and far behind reduces the urgency for many voters.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:51 PM
Nov 2013

A close election tends to pull out voters who might otherwise stay at home when neither candidate motivates them. I would guess, based on the VA election, that Cuccinelli motivated his supporters while McAuliffe did not, but even that wasn't enough to put him over.

Those who hate and love tend to hate and love strongly. Cuccinelli's appeal to hatred worked by pulling out those who want to hurt others more than they want to help themselves, while McAuliffe's only real appeal was the fact that he isn't Cuccinelli.

In the end, McAuliffe's money overcame Cuccinelli's call to hatred, but only barely. McAuliffe was able to get the word out early that Cuccinelli was a nutjob and that VA needed a rational person for governor. The real good news of that is it means there are many more sane people in VA than hate-filled inbreds and when they found out what Cuccinelli was about they ran from his campaign. The bad news is that rational people didn't like McAuliffe all that much.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
11. Everyone I spoke with said, "I am not excited about Terry but...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:25 PM
Nov 2013

I couldn't let Coochie Nelly Win"

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
16. I wasn't excited about Terry back in 08 when I first heard
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:30 PM
Nov 2013

he was positioning himself to Run for Gov of VA.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
21. How long have you lived in Virginia?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:10 PM
Nov 2013

Apparently not long enough to remember Harris Miller.

(Harris Miller was considered the choice of party activists for the 2006 US Senate nomination. He ran as an unabashed liberal. When Jim Webb jumped into the race, Miller made a point of criticizing Webb as being a former repub and too conservative. Miller lost by around 10,000 out of around 150,000 votes cast, even though he outspent Webb by a wide margin.

And then Webb went on to defeat his repub opponent.

Warner. Kaine. Webb. McAuliffe. What do they have in common? Two things: folks like to tag them as "corporate" Democrats. And they all won in Virginia.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
20. I don't think there is any evidence of that
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:57 PM
Nov 2013

Democrats may not have been enthusiastic about Terry, but turnout was up because a lot of folks wanted to make sure Cooch wasn't elected. In a Democratic stronghold like Fairfax, the turnout was up by more than 30,000 votes. Statewide turnout was up slightly. There is no party registration in Virginia so claiming to know about turnout by party is pretty dicey.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
13. I was thinking the same thing
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:27 PM
Nov 2013

How did the turnout last night compare to previous elections?

Anyone know?

onenote

(42,531 posts)
22. Slightly higher than the previous two governor's race.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:11 PM
Nov 2013

Up in Democratic strongholds like Fairfax County.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
18. You may think you know that, but you don't.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:50 PM
Nov 2013

In fact, turnout was up overall and it was particularly up in Northern Virginia, a stronghold for Democratic candidates and the area where the Washington Post's poll showing a 12 percent margin should have,under your assumption, had the greatest impact.

Yet, turnout was up in Fairfax by more than 2 percent over 2009 and nearly 1.5 percent over 2005. In absolute terms, the number of votes cast in Fairfax County last night was 311,288, compared to only 279,606 in 2009 and 277,471 in 2005.

Fairfax County was pretty important in securing victory for McAuliffe. His margin of victory statewide was around 57,000 votes. His margin of victory in Fairfax County was 67,000 votes.

I don't know a single person who decided not to vote because of reports that Terry had it won.

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