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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:49 AM Nov 2013

Voter ID Laws in Action: "Looks Like I Don't Get to Vote Today"

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/11/voter-supression-id-election-day-virginia-texas

When voters across America hit the polls yesterday, many eyes were on Texas, which has faced recent criticism that its new voter ID law could make it harder for women to vote. But plenty of other states have passed restrictive voter ID laws recently. Legislators claim the laws clamp down on voter fraud—there were only 13 credible cases of in-person voter impersonation between 2000 and 2010—by requiring voters to present various forms of identification. Poor, elderly, and minority voters, along with women, are hit particularly hard by these strict voting requirements, and voters of all stripes were feeling the effects as they tried to vote yesterday.

While some Americans headed to Twitter to express their support for the new voting regulations, others used the medium to complain about not having their votes counted or being forced to jump additional hurdles, such as signing a sworn affidavit. And to underscore the confusion that these laws have wrought across the country, some voters didn't know what kind of identification, if any, they needed. There are also reports of poll workers requiring IDs in states like New York and Iowa, which don't have voter ID laws on the books. Mother Jones is tracking voter complaints across the United States, through both Twitter and organizations that run help lines, to determine which states were having trouble. Here's what we've found:

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Edison NJ refused to let me vote until I showed an ID. They told me it is NJ law that I MUST show ID to vote. Since when?

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Gavin Aronsen, a former Mother Jones reporter, had trouble voting because he was asked to produce two forms of ID, contrary to Iowa state law. The poll worker allegedly told Aronsen that even though the state didn't have a voter ID law as of November 5, "there will be (one), soon enough."

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Fierce little voting tyrant telling a disabled 80 year old woman she can't vote without a drivers license.

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Voter ID Laws in Action: "Looks Like I Don't Get to Vote Today" (Original Post) deminks Nov 2013 OP
I found here in Ohio that if you vote early, you don't need an ID liberal N proud Nov 2013 #1
Absentee Ballots HockeyMom Nov 2013 #2
Not correct. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #4
All of my banks and utilities are fighing tooth and nail to go paperless. Thor_MN Nov 2013 #5
What she said! Adding that "current" bills, etc means within one year Maeve Nov 2013 #10
Whenever you attempt to suppress the vote you Heather MC Nov 2013 #3
I wish you were right, but I don't think so groundloop Nov 2013 #6
So how can get out the vote groups be proactive? Generic Other Nov 2013 #7
Absolutely! We've lost a lot of time by not being pro-active on this. SharonAnn Nov 2013 #8
Lawyers need to be all over this. Civil rights case against states Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #9

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
1. I found here in Ohio that if you vote early, you don't need an ID
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:01 AM
Nov 2013

But if you vote at the polls, you need to have a valid state issued photo ID.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
2. Absentee Ballots
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:16 AM
Nov 2013

If you have the ballot mailed to your home and mail it back, no ID. I know Florida is trying to find a way to require it for this too, but how are they going to do that?

Ms. Toad

(34,065 posts)
4. Not correct.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:46 AM
Nov 2013

There are many forms of acceptable ID in Ohio:

A current and valid photo identification card issued by the State of Ohio or the United States government; or
A military identification ("military ID&quot ; or
An original or copy of a current utility bill; or
An original or copy of a current bank statement; or
An original or copy of a current government check; or
An original or copy of a current paycheck; or
An original or copy of a current other government document, other than a voter registration acknowledgement notification mailed by the board of elections, that shows the voter’s name and current address.

(If you vote early, you don't need to show your ID, but you do need to be able to provide either your driver's license number or the last four digits of your social security number; if you don't have/know those you will need to present: A copy of a current and valid photo identification, for example, Ohio driver's license, state ID card, government ID (photo identification must show your name and address); or A copy of a current utility or phone bill, bank statement, paycheck, government check, or other government document that shows your name and current address, including from a public college or university.)

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
5. All of my banks and utilities are fighing tooth and nail to go paperless.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 09:12 AM
Nov 2013

I haven't had a physical paycheck in years. Some of these entities don't even offer a choice, it's paperless or do business elsewhere. So more and more, what is being pushed as many forms of acceptable ID are ceasing to exist. I don't know that email or image of an electronic form on a laptop/tablet/phone qualifies as a copy in the minds of those that want to suppress voting.

Minnesota doesn't have idiotic voter ID laws, although I've heard otherwise sane people insist that there must be rabid voter fraud, because their candidates keep losing. I guess that's the only way to reconcile things, since they represent "the majority of Americans"

Maeve

(42,281 posts)
10. What she said! Adding that "current" bills, etc means within one year
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:08 PM
Nov 2013

And most communications from a government source (except from the Board of Elections--we can't prove your ID to ourselves!) count--letters, tax bills, notices, court papers, transcripts from a school, car registration, speeding ticket....

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
3. Whenever you attempt to suppress the vote you
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:36 AM
Nov 2013

inspire more people to want to vote.

They are so stupid they don't understand basic human nature.

They say,"No you can't"
We will say, " Yes we can"

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
6. I wish you were right, but I don't think so
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:39 AM
Nov 2013

IMO, if it's more difficult to vote many people are just going to say "to hell with it, what's it matter anyway" and not make the effort any more. Sadly that's just what the GOPers want.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
7. So how can get out the vote groups be proactive?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:13 AM
Nov 2013

Maybe instead of focusing on getting people to the polls, they need to start helping people get ID well before a vote.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
8. Absolutely! We've lost a lot of time by not being pro-active on this.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:59 PM
Nov 2013

We should've started working on this several years ago along with the GOTV efforts.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
9. Lawyers need to be all over this. Civil rights case against states
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:03 PM
Nov 2013

Individuals being disenfranchised need to bring federal civil rights cases that AG will surely take up and prosecute.

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