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Sat Nov 9, 2013, 11:25 PM

Dean Scream vs Christie's 24/7 Assholeorama

Remember when Howard Dean made one loud noise at rally filled with balloons, confetti, and a boisterous atmosphere and was hammered by the media? Yet Christie can personally insult and publicly humiliate his constituents as a matter of course, over and over, with no retribution.

Liberal media my ass!

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Response to ZX86 (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2013, 11:36 PM

1. People thought Dean sounded unhinged when the sound byte was played (out of context)

OTOH, many I know like Christie's blunt and insulting manner. To these folks, he's a no BS, straight shooter kind of guy.

Keep in mind that there are a whole group of people who dislike the fact that Obama always sounds "like a teacher/professor". These are the folks who felt that Jr. Bush's butchering of English made him "someone I can relate to."

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 9, 2013, 11:44 PM

3. For the life of me I didn't get the Dean Scream Controversy

He yelled at a rally. So??? It's like condemning some one for crying at a funeral or laughing at a comedy. A political rally is where you expect loud noises and voices. It's the political version of a sporting event.

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Response to ZX86 (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:05 AM

8. It really was one of those Am I Taking Crazy Pills? moments.

So ludicrous.

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Response to ZX86 (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:15 AM

11. We remember the scream, but what he said was . . .

That he was going to win a whole bunch of state primaries going forward, which he did not do. The media latched onto the 'scream' (perfectly appropriate to the circumstances) and conflated it with his poor showings, and turned it into a meme.

That having been said, I'd sure like to see him in the primaries for 2016.

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Response to MrModerate (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:30 AM

12. That is not the way I remember it.

He screamed after the Iowa caucuses. As I understand it a certain TV network amplified the scream at the time. The press made a huge fuss over the scream and ruined Dean's chances in the subsequent primaries (Iowa being the first primary).

Dean, who had been suffering with a severe bout of the flu for several days, attended a post-caucus rally for his volunteers at the Val-Air Ballroom in West Des Moines, Iowa and delivered his concession speech, aimed at cheering up those in attendance. Dean was shouting over the cheers of his enthusiastic audience, but the crowd noise was being filtered out by his unidirectional microphone, leaving only his full-throated exhortations audible to the television viewers. To those at home, he seemed to raise his voice out of sheer emotion.[38]

According to a Newsday editorial written by Verne Gay, some members of the television audience criticized the speech as loud, peculiar, and unpresidential.[39] In particular, this quote from the speech was aired repeatedly in the days following the caucus: "Not only are we going to New Hampshire, Tom Harkin, we're going to South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico, and we're going to California and Texas and New York.... And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan, and then we're going to Washington, D.C., to take back the White House! About this sound Yeah!" (help·info)[40]

Senator Harkin was on stage with Dean, holding his suit jacket. This final "Yeah!" with its unusual tone that Dean later said was due to the cracking of his hoarse voice,[41] has become known in American political jargon as the "Dean Scream" or the "I Have A Scream" speech.[41][42] Comedians and late-night comedy show hosts such as Dave Chappelle and Conan O'Brien satirized, mocked, and popularized the sound bite,[42][43] beginning a media onslaught that many believe contributed immensely to his poor showing in the subsequent races.[citation needed]

Dean conceded that the speech did not project the best image, jokingly referring to it as a "crazy, red-faced rant" on the Late Show with David Letterman. In an interview later that week with Diane Sawyer, he said he was "a little sheepish ... but I'm not apologetic."[44] Sawyer and many others in the national broadcast news media later expressed some regret about overplaying the story.[38] In fact, CNN issued a public apology and admitted in a statement that they indeed may have "overplayed" the incident. The incessant replaying of the "Dean Scream" by the press became a debate on the topic of whether Dean was the victim of media bias. The scream scene was shown an estimated 633 times by cable and broadcast news networks in just four days following the incident, a number that does not include talk shows and local news broadcasts.[45] However, those who were in the actual audience that day insist that they were not aware of the infamous "scream" until they returned to their hotel rooms and saw it on TV.[38] Dean said after the general election in 2004 that his microphone only picked up his voice and did not also capture the loud cheering he received from the audience as a result of the speech. On January 27 Dean finished second to Kerry in the New Hampshire primary. As late as one week before the first votes were cast in Iowa's caucuses, Dean had enjoyed a 30% lead in New Hampshire opinion polls;[citation needed] accordingly, this loss represented another major setback to his campaign.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Dean#Iowa_Caucus_Setback_and_the_.22Dean_Scream.22_media_gaffe

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Response to MrModerate (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:41 AM

13. He was excited...

That was one of the most biased things I have ever seen. Once the corporate media had their collective narrative it was played over and over and over. To me, even with the enhanced whatever they hell they did with the audio, all I saw was a man that was excited and was showing his excitement.

Peace

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Response to ZX86 (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:22 PM

14. It was played over and over again

in what was a clear attempt to smear Dean. It was edited to remove any context from the scream. It perfectly illustrates the one-sided, unfair nature of today's media.

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Response to ZX86 (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:41 PM

16. it was a condenser mic which filtered out crowd noise, and the fact he was screaming to be heard.

enough excuse for the media to play it 24/7
sad.

if you hear other recording from the even you can hardly even hear Dean...

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Response to ZX86 (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2013, 11:41 PM

2. No kidding

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Response to ZX86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:01 AM

4. I remember the media painting Dean as "angry" even before the scream.

And they used this so-called anger as a scare tactic.

Christie's bullying persona is completely inappropriate, but the media will say he's genuine and speaks his mind.

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Response to cyberswede (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:05 AM

5. Exactly.

If you're an angry intellectual it's bad. If you're an angry, loud mouthed, bully it's a good thing.

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Response to ZX86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:41 AM

6. I can't tell you how many people I've made go watch the original video.

And how many people came back afterward and said "That's what the noise was all about with the Dean Scream?"

Yeah. The media torpedoed him. Completely.

And now the media wants us to have Cruz v. Christine v. Clinton. I don't want any part of any of them. The decision has already been made, all other voices have been ignored or stifled.

I'm seeing ads already for next years local elections. There is *WAY* too much money in the process, and it's blinding. If you want to create voter apathy, so only the most committed vote, this is how you do it. Crap candidates, 24x7 for a whole year.

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Response to ZX86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:00 AM

7. The corporate media is first, last and foremost the "corporate media," an "authoritarian" construct

by its' very design.

Thanks for the thread, ZX

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Response to ZX86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:19 AM

10. Just like the Swift Boat BS...never got that one either. Sometimes it is frustrating to be a Dem.

 

We just don't do "Assholeorama" ... LOL ... as well. There's the good news and the bad news all rolled up in one.

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Response to ZX86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:34 PM

15. I still look up the Dean Scream on Youtube once in a while.

Yeah, it was a tempest in a teapot.

As for Christie, he's an ass.

Edited to add: The Dean Scream bit was also hilarious in the Jibjab "This Land Is Your Land" cartoon. If I were Dean, I would watch this once a week and chuckle about how famous those few seconds have become.

Edited one more time to add: If you really want to hear something funny, look up "Howard Dean Scream in Reverse" on Youtube.

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