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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRaiders Quarterback Applauds Bullied Dolphins Player For ‘Standing Up And Being A Man’
Source: Think Progress
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Thats not how Terrelle Pryor sees it, though. Asked about the Dolphins situation Thursday, the second-year Oakland Raiders quarterback applauded Martins courage to stand up against the bullies, even if he didnt do it with his fists.
I hope that we see [Jonathan] Martin playing again soon Ive watched some tape of him, hes a good player, Pryor said, according to Raiders.com. Hats off to him for standing up and being a man.
But that wasnt all. Pryor also insinuated that there should have been leaders men in the locker room who stood up for Martin and spoke out about Incognitos problems (which are only looking worse with each passing day).
Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2013/11/08/2918291/raiders-quarterback-applauds-bullied-dolphins-player-standing-man/
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Like everybody else in the NFL, Martin probably started playing football when he was ten years old (or younger). He's been a rookie before and knows what hazing is. He knows what locker room culture is like. For him to walk off the job like that, it must have been pretty over-the-top.
mythology
(9,527 posts)I've read some articles where Miami players were supporting Incognito which is a little stupefying.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Reports of the bullying and abuse going on in the Dolphins locker room reminds me of Lord of the Flies.
a kennedy
(29,618 posts)I can not believe ANY African American would be ok with what incognito said..... some of it was JUST PLAIN RACIST. I hope I'm not to out on a limb being white saying that. But sheesh. It's not ok. JMHO.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)OK with this at all!! Not in the least!
Michael Wilborn (sp?) had a nice exposé on this issue on Pardon the Interruption the other day. Just because a few ignorant ass blacks may be fine with it doesn't mean the majority of blacks are. I can assure you that it's just not the case.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)because the team needs him as a football player. The line is poor with him and it would be even worse without him. Winning is everything. Wins have come hard for the Dolphins.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)I hate this circling the wagons around the abuser. This is exactly why people don't come forward more when they are harassed at work, because often they are the ones blamed for the situation.
The NFL should have policies in place to prevent this kind of targeting and abuse. I don't care if it is "different". I don't care about the macho bullshit (which in my opinion poisons far too many good people) or any of that. These are PROFESSIONALS. They shouldn't act like that.
DinahMoeHum
(21,776 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 10, 2013, 11:17 AM - Edit history (1)
Failure of leadership all across the board in the Miami Dolphins' franchise.Failure of leadership among the players.
Failure of leadership among the coaches.
Failure of leadership in the front office/general management.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,055 posts)I don't care if it's in a school or workplace. It's wrong and needs to be dealt with. The hierarchy is always the same...the bully, his or her wingman, and the followers. Incognito is typical, and had obviously been a problem for a long time...he makes others feel bad about themselves so he can feel better about himself. That fact that the Dolphins are rallying around him is pretty disgusting. I wonder how many more times this will happen before they decide to do something about it. These things never end well.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)They set the tone on what is acceptable behavior in their organization. There is no way the staff did not know what was going on.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)It's the sickening definition of bullying. This has been displayed blatantly in this situation, but have no doubt, it is played out across this country in business, education and university settings.
We aren't going to deal with bullying in children, until we deal with bullying in adults. Money and power is what it's all about, majority rule, whether right or wrong is fueled by money and fear. Grown men are displaying a mentality that is clearly wrong & somehow they are trying to justify it.
Stand up and be a man, is the mantra these bullies need to apply to themselves.
Pryor is so right on, where are the leaders, where are the real men that would not stand for this blatant brutality and racism.
Our culture is deteriorating.
K & R for Pryor's words. K & R for Martin, he should be congratulated and it should be made known in no uncertain terms that he is not alone & has support from many corners, including DU.
TY, demmiblue, bravo for bringing this here!
trumad
(41,692 posts)because he accepted illegal gifts. If only there would have been a leader in his college locker room.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Possibly the worst run, worst performing sports franchise among the major 3 sports for the last decade.
The anti-bullying movement couldn't have found a worse spokesperson.
Mz Pip
(27,433 posts)It shouldn't matter what your job is or how much money you make. Your workplace environment shouldn't include bullying or racial slurs.
It's bad enough that the NFL is tax exempt. The fact that excuses are made for this behavior is pretty deplorable.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)that the phrase "bandwagon Raider fan" has become an oxymoron, considering how embarrassing they've been playing. They haven't even had a winning season since I was in middle school.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)A shame because the Raiders have the coolest mascot and colors, and I'm a Seahawks fans.
Al Davis' "sort by 40 time and draft in order" technique didn't help, nor did JaMarcus Russell.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)Tressel got fired because he covered up that hot mess. Pryor was his number one priority and he lost sight of everything else but keeping him eligible and winning.
If Tressel had reported the infractions, he would still have a job. His record would have withstood any sanctions from the NCAA if he hadn't aided and abetted those who had committed the infractions.
As far as accepting illegal gifts, he and others traded memorabilia for tattoos. It was against the rules. However, they weren't running around and accepting cars and bazzillions of dollars. He paid with suspensions.
This was also an example of no leadership at the top. If Tressel hadn't set the tone by covering it up, it would have stopped. Pryor knew better, but he certainly didn't have an adult reining him in. This wasn't a secret. Players knew what was happening and Tressel's actions had to have had a negative effect on other players.
AND once again, I am not excusing Pryor. He was punished as he should have been.
trumad
(41,692 posts)The hypocrites coming out of the woodwork are fucking amazing.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)Pryor was punished and he should have been.
However, Tressel also deserved to be punished for his actions. Pryor was going to be punished no matter what Tressel did but as HC he set the wrong tone for the team.
You act like Pryor's actions alone got Tressel fired. That's not true. Tressel had the opportunity to follow the rules and keep his job.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)He sold his legal "awards" for cash to pay for tattoos.
Well said, Terrelle Pryor.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)a net on this berserker before he finally kills someone or someone kills him.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)The misogyny is so thick.
The 'jock culture' is repulsive to me. How I loathe football.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)It is poisonous. Fuck the NFL and its defenders.
I just watched Terry Bradshaw and the other meatheads at Fox try to excuse this behavior. "Wanting to hear BOTH sides." and "Jonathan Martin has to come clean", "He had emotional problems." Yeah, no shit, when he was being abused, of course he had emotional problems.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I always thought it was the bullies who had emotional issues.
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)that is something I haven't heard addressed in this.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)And act accordingly.
KAESNO2
(17 posts)I can't find it on Google.