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kydo

(2,679 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:43 AM Nov 2013

WOW Reporting about the Philippines - real coverage which News network you ask

Last edited Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:22 AM - Edit history (1)

Not msnbc right wing morning programing - I passed them on the way to a real news and in the brief 2 to 4 secs that happens when flipping channels. And you could see where their morning dribble was going by seeing who was seated at the joe table.

But then my tv landed on the BBC and WOW they have coverage of the devastation in the Philippines. It's bad. Real bad. My prayers and thoughts are with those in the Philippines and their families.

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WOW Reporting about the Philippines - real coverage which News network you ask (Original Post) kydo Nov 2013 OP
Yesterdays Paper said up to 10K dead. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #1
I believe that was a single city on a single island that had up to 10K dead magical thyme Nov 2013 #20
Now which island are we talking about FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #2
Check the photos intaglio Nov 2013 #8
Greatly exagerated FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #11
The official confirmed death toll is already 1,774 muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #18
This is a first hand report from a person on the scene intaglio Nov 2013 #19
BBC - Philippines devastation is 'bedlam' dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #3
That's like four times the entire Jamaican population malaise Nov 2013 #5
Let me see malaise Nov 2013 #4
Sky News provides good uptodate coverage too. dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #6
We don't have Sky other than sports malaise Nov 2013 #7
Yep winner winner chicken dinner kydo Nov 2013 #10
Yes that is the sad truth malaise Nov 2013 #13
Al Jazeera photos at the link below intaglio Nov 2013 #9
thanks for posting the link kydo Nov 2013 #12
I'm glad for SOME truth heaven05 Nov 2013 #15
years ago i bought a cheap little shortwave reciever--radio shack model dembotoz Nov 2013 #14
Too bad we live in a surveillance state with junk propaganda media. woo me with science Nov 2013 #16
Al Jazeera is on top of international news and is doing an excellent job with this randr Nov 2013 #17
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. Yesterdays Paper said up to 10K dead.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:51 AM
Nov 2013

I hope that was a big over-estimate. Still a tragedy. I think the storm surge in Vietnam is going to be really bad....havent heard yet.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
20. I believe that was a single city on a single island that had up to 10K dead
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 12:53 PM
Nov 2013

There will likely end up being 10s of thousands dead.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
2. Now which island are we talking about
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:06 AM
Nov 2013

My wife is from the island of Cebu and the Eye of the Typhoon passed almost directly over her home in Minglanilla. Her home is fabricated of concrete block walls through out with steel trusses and a tin roof and they suffered no damage at all. In fact I've been there during a Cat 2 Typhoon and the house didn't even spring a leak with all that wind driven rain

We've already heard from family in Mactan, Naga, and Cebu City. Waiting to hear back from 1 more that was on the island of Masbate and that is her biggest concern

BTW: the Philippine Red Cross puts the death toll estimate at 1200 - not the hugely inflated numbers are ratings driven Hyperbole News Media uses here.

You have to understand - the Philippines is hit by Typhoons all the time. In fact those Bambo Nippa Huts have monofilament netting over those thatched roofs and can survive high wind speeds better then the best wood truss roofs we build here in the USA

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
8. Check the photos
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:34 AM
Nov 2013

Then add that the storm surge was at least 3 m and penetrated about 1 km inland.

The figure you say is grossly inflated comes from the mayor of Tacloban. Then add in that the Red Cross does not always estimate accurately because it factors in the known deaths with those reported missing, it does not estimate based on the homeless nor on the follow up death toll (disease and injury) plus the lower the death toll the more aid it can justify trucking in.

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added below in thread a link to Al Jazeera's photos

muriel_volestrangler

(101,262 posts)
18. The official confirmed death toll is already 1,774
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 12:23 PM
Nov 2013

1,660 in Eastern Visayas: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/525479/yolanda-death-toll-nearing-2000-ndrrmc

This is the kind of thing that happened:



http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/524763/worst-disaster-to-hit-ph

The figure of 10,000 suggested dead came from the police chief, not foreign media.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
19. This is a first hand report from a person on the scene
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 12:51 PM
Nov 2013

I am happy for you and your family but they will only have a perspective covering their immediate location.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
3. BBC - Philippines devastation is 'bedlam'
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:07 AM
Nov 2013

The head of the Red Cross in the Philippines has described the devastation caused by Typhoon Haiyan as "absolute bedlam".

Officials estimate up to 10,000 people have died in Tacloban city and elsewhere. Hundreds of thousands of people are displaced.

Rescue efforts are being hindered by damage to roads and airports.

>

More than nine million people have been affected in the Philippines. Many are now struggling to survive without food, shelter or clean drinking water.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24894529

Mention was made the first that the singular upside, if you can call it that , was that the storm passed over quickly. That meant there was no sustained rainfall which would have made matters worse with the resultant landslides.

malaise

(268,664 posts)
5. That's like four times the entire Jamaican population
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:17 AM
Nov 2013

If a storm this size and this strength hits the Jamaican south coast I'm predicting Bangladesh type fatalities. There is one entire city built up on swamp lands with over 400,000 people.
One tidal wave the size of the one that hit Tacloban and I don't want to think about the death toll.

malaise

(268,664 posts)
4. Let me see
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:10 AM
Nov 2013

These four have been very good - BBC, Al Jazeera (English); UK Guardian and Weather Underground with Jeff Masters.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
6. Sky News provides good uptodate coverage too.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:22 AM
Nov 2013

Typhoon Haiyan Devastation: New Storm On Way.

Rescuers are struggling to get desperately needed aid to areas of the Philippines devastated by Typhoon Haiyan - as a new storm approaches.

Aid workers are being held back by blocked roads and damaged airports as they try to deliver tents, food and medicines to the worst affected areas.

>

Threatening to further hamper relief efforts is a new storm approaching the southern and central Philippines.

Government weather forecasters said the tropical depression could bring fresh floods to typhoon-affected areas.

The depression is expected to hit land on the southern island of Mindanao late Tuesday and then move across the central islands of Bohol, Cebu, Negros and Panay, which all suffered typhoon damage, forecaster Connie Dadivas said.

http://news.sky.com/story/1166758/typhoon-haiyan-devastation-new-storm-on-way

malaise

(268,664 posts)
7. We don't have Sky other than sports
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:24 AM
Nov 2013

I have two views about more bad weather - it does wash away some debris from roads and it brings badly needed fresh water - and then there are the negatives.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
10. Yep winner winner chicken dinner
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 08:42 AM
Nov 2013


I wish I could get Al Jazeera (English) on my tv.

It's amazing how much news is really going on. If it wasn't for the BBC and the internet, I'd probably be brain washed into thinking the US was about to fall into economic ruin because the health care law is failing and millions will have no health care coverage any more. I'd also be brainwashed into thinking that Hillary Clinton's Presidential campaign is in deep trouble and that Christie is the answer to everything. Oh and of course there is a war on Christmas and football scores, and how Richie isn't a racist.


US News reporting is in worse shape then the US infrastructure, on the verge of collapsing.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. I'm glad for SOME truth
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:01 AM
Nov 2013

from this service. As well as BBC and others. Our amerikkkan media is in the toilet waiting to be flushed by 'real' americans.

dembotoz

(16,784 posts)
14. years ago i bought a cheap little shortwave reciever--radio shack model
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:54 AM
Nov 2013

crappy little thing but it did pull in the bbc and deutchevele among some others

was always floored by the amount of news from around the world that was never ever covered.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
16. Too bad we live in a surveillance state with junk propaganda media.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 10:49 AM
Nov 2013

With the end of net neutrality, it is only going to get worse.

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