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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTalk show host delivers DNA test results to white supremacist : ‘You have a little black in you"
EXCLUSIVE: Watch the moment white supremacist trying to take over North Dakota town refuses to fist bump black host after she tells him he is 14 per cent African
Rejects DNA results which prove he is 14 per cent Sub-Saharan African as 'statistical noise' and 'short science'
'Pure evil' Cobb, 62, has quietly bought up land in Leith, N.D, to turn it into a white enclave
Cobb and his followers say they are not racist but 'racially aware'
Says racially offensive terms are 'holy words' laid out in the 'White Man's Bible'
Leith's only black resident says things are 'only going to get worse' as town runs out of legal options to halt Cobb's march
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493491/EXCLUSIVE-Watch-moment-white-supremacist-trying-North-Dakota-town-refuses-fist-bump-black-host-tells-14-cent-
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/11/talk-show-host-delivers-dna-test-results-to-white-supremacist-town-founder-you-have-a-little-black-in-you/
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Bandit
(21,475 posts)The Bible doesn't say anything about the Asians or the Blacks or the American Indians to name just a few..
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Just sayin. Biblical peoples are much more likely to look like modern Middle Easterners than Europeans. Pretty much everybody in the Bible were of the Semitic persuasion with the possible exception of some of the Roman actors...oh, or the Queen of Sheba who may have been a black African.
is how they explain it
Bandit
(21,475 posts)Did God create the Asian Race seperately than he created the Black Race or the American Indian Race? If he created Adam and Eve as the very first Humans then Evolution would have to have taken place..
d_r
(6,907 posts)Just saying.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)Noah had 3 sons. Shem, from whom the fundies claim the Semitic race comes from; Japheth from whom the white race comes from and Ham, from whom the black race comes from. They get all "technical" with which sons of these 3 the various civilizations are descended. See http://www.freemaninstitute.com/RTGham.htm for the theory in all its technicolor glory.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)my Fundy Christian sister tried to explain it to me years ago.
Oh, and my favorite "explanation" for the discovery of dinosaur bones and fossils?
God playing pranks on us poor stupid humans...to test our faith, you know...
I don't recall the whole thing but one son is the ancestor of the Semetic peoples, one of Caucasians, and one of the rest. Yes, I think it is non sense, but that is what they believe.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)One thing for sure, modern humans have preferred copulating to genealogical record keeping.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)This would have occurred recently in the last 10000 years and is clearly found in the British Isles. White Anglo-Saxon history is a myth and the genetic markers left by our ancestors do not lie. Anyone who wants to prove imaginary racial purity from a modern DNA test is ignorant. Starting in Africa we are all immigrants many times over.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Any critter that can walk at 5 kph and can walk for more than 8 hours on a 1500-2000 calorie diet that can be met by omnivorous habits is going to spread all over the place. And all over the place means all over most places...the potential capacity to walk up down and across most continents in half a year is pretty impressive.
Being the clever kind of ape that we are (capable of acquiring, storing and transporting resource surplus, -and- ourselves) many of the barriers to dispersal of other 'land-dwelling animals" aren't impassible. Rivers, sea shores and sea narrows, mountains, glaciers and dessert might slow and channel the path, but wouldn't stop human migration.
Communication between human populations seems to have been much broader than popular street knowledge considers possible.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)sending out waves of various stripes of walky talky apes
the Basques (of course) are 2% Neanderthal, and Algerians and Spanish probably have a lot of Cromagnonid blood (with the chunky skulls and the tooth-extraction)
sarge43
(28,941 posts)2% each Neanderthal and Denisovan.
We're all ultimately African.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Humanity almost went extinct 70K years ago. Only a few thousand in a corner of Africa that was a shore managed to survive. We are all decended from those few Africans.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The notion of "racial purity" is an absolute boondoggle.
JanT
(229 posts)they deny it and call it 'pure evil'. i guess "truth" still has to work hard to be accepted.
Nine
(1,741 posts)That's at least a great-grandparent. Or two great-great-grandparents, or so on...
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Nine
(1,741 posts)If they used a company like 23&Me, I'm not sure how it counts remote ancestors. My husband and I did it and he had virtually zero sub-Saharan African while I had 3 point something percent, which I think was a great-great-great grandparent. We also both had some percentage of Neanderthal. Maybe six percent? I can't remember but it was the typical percentage for people of mostly European ancestry. That's another funny thing - for all that white supremacists like to claim that whites are more evolved than blacks, whites are the one walking around with a bunch of neanderthal genes. Well, maybe that's a little simplistic or misleading but it's still funny.
Treant
(1,968 posts)It's nice to know that the species isn't really extinct, per se. It lives on in us, and we are them to some small extent.
Personally, I'd be thrilled to find that I'm 14% sub-Saharan. Or anything else, for that matter.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)The old Hun charge regarding Germanic ancestry has some validity. My Grandfathers' family frequently has children with a red rash or birthmark at the base of the spine which goes away. It causes some alarm and my son had this red mark. My Grandfather's family included family who were Swiss, my understanding this is common in Switzerland and Mongolia. As to the DNA test I understand they look for specific genetic markers and have not completely figured out the time factor involved.
I clashed hard back in the 1990's with a Professor and other students who liked the "Bell Curve" thesis, modern genetics has made that argument irrelevant.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)If he had been born during another time in US history, he wouldn't have been considered a white man in this country.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)hatrack
(59,584 posts)nt
derby378
(30,252 posts)...some of us turned left instead of going straight and split off from the main flow of the tribes. Most of us settled in Europe. Some spread out through Siberia, and there's been some discussion over whether or not we made it as far as Japan.
We who would eventually become what are commonly known as Caucasians got isolated from the main flow of humanity, and we compensated by developing our own languages, cultures, and societies. A few of us even let this isolation go to our heads.
And one of those unfortunate few just got himself a nice little reality check.
Welcome back to the family.
ut oh
(893 posts)that the other person up there is just laughing so hard the whole time.
KrazyinKS
(291 posts)The point is-that's funny! I love the way the lady beside him laughed hysterically!
gordianot
(15,237 posts)He put himself into an argument with Science that he could only lose. Without seeing the results it had to happen. This is the funniest clip I have seen in years, have played it several times, and shared it with friends. If I could I would nominate this the best thread of the decade.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)Beautiful.
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)The man has a belief which no facts are going to shake.
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Black People, African People are the Original People.
That's why they call it The Motherland.
The birthplace of humankind.
The Whites, The Yellows, The Oranges, The Reds, The Tans, The Browns...
...all of them are our children.
All of them are our descendants.
All of them came from The Blacks.
We are all family here.
So let's start treating each other as one.
John Lucas
Cleita
(75,480 posts)of Northern European ancestry or pure Aryans as they like to believe. If I had the money I would provide every single one of them with an ancestry DNA kit.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)... instead of marrying their cousins has likely picked up a bit of the African American strain, which is as ubiquitous if not more so than the Irish strain, just not as acknowledged.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)This guy's vaunted Cro-Magnon ancestors would have looked far more like a native New Guinean or Australian than like anyone living in Europe or the United States today.
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pgen.1003912
Skin pigmentation is one of the most variable phenotypic traits in humans. A non-synonymous substitution (rs1426654) in the third exon of SLC24A5 accounts for lighter skin in Europeans but not in East Asians. . . . Sequencing 11.74 kb of SLC24A5 in 95 individuals worldwide reveals that the rs1426654-A alleles in South Asian and West Eurasian populations are monophyletic and occur on the background of a common haplotype that is characterized by low genetic diversity. We date the coalescence of the light skin associated allele at 2228 KYA. Both our sequence and genome-wide genotype data confirm that this gene has been a target for positive selection among Europeans.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)The early 20th century baseball star, and noted racist and general asshole. This jerk seems to be cut from the same cloth.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Many whites might not know they have black ancestors and Native American ancestors. Virtually all African Americans have white ancestors, and many have Native American ancestry.
It's really interesting that many racists probably share ancestry with blacks, and I mean within the last 300 years.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)friend whose father is 25% black. If any of you looked at her, you wouldn't see it, she is a classic central European, blue eyed natural platinum blond (I confirmed, but please let's not go into that). Her dad is a virulent racist who has a burning hatred for Blacks and other dark skinned people, he particularly hates Blacks. His daughter is cool with everyone and has disavowed him.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)What a hoot