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kpete

(71,961 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:23 PM Nov 2013

US Breaks With Israel- Does "NOT Recognize The Legitimacy of Settlements"

State Dept. 'surprised' by Israeli announcement || U.S. demands Israel explain plans for 20,000 new West Bank homes
State Department expresses 'deep concern' over construction tenders, says Washington does 'not recognize the legitimacy of settlements.'

By Barak Ravid and Chaim Levinson | Nov. 12, 2013 | 9:57 PM


The U.S. State Department said it is "deeply concerned" by Israel's announcement over the tenders issued for the construction of 20,000 new settlement units in the West Bank and that it is demanding explanations from Israel.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said that Washington was taken by surprise and had no prior knowledge of the plans. "We were surprised by it and we are seeking explanation from the Israeli government. It was not discussed in advance. We don’t recognize the legitimacy of settlements."

National Security Council spokesperson Bernadette Meehan said: “We are deeply concerned by these latest reports that over 20,000 additional units are in the early planning stages. We are currently seeking further explanation from the Government of Israel. Our position on settlements is quite clear: We have always considered the settlements to be illegitimate."

Meehan added: "We have called on both sides to take steps to create a positive atmosphere for the negotiations. We do not consider settlement planning, even in its early stages, to be a step that creates a positive environment for the negotiations.”

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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.557681
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US Breaks With Israel- Does "NOT Recognize The Legitimacy of Settlements" (Original Post) kpete Nov 2013 OP
Thank god we have PBO. GWB would have been asking them to let him drive the bulldozers. libdem4life Nov 2013 #1
How would this disapproval be communicated? With words alone? el_bryanto Nov 2013 #2
We're Going to Send them a White Hot Protest Note Wolf Frankula Nov 2013 #14
That is correct and they'll keep doing it davidpdx Nov 2013 #20
That's a start. Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2013 #3
Too little too late.... bowens43 Nov 2013 #4
I guess we all knew Bibi would F**k things up as soon as he was elected. Auntie Bush Nov 2013 #5
There goes the AIPAC money. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #6
There are idiots over there who grab some dirt and say, "This is mine acording to GOD!" Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #7
Now wait for the tanturm...... DeSwiss Nov 2013 #8
Scuttling a nuke deal with Iran, trampling on the Palestinians. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #9
Netanyahu's Response To Kerry's Rebuke DallasNE Nov 2013 #10
It Appears I Was Wrong Regarding Netanyahu DallasNE Nov 2013 #18
How can such belligerence benefit Israel? dchill Nov 2013 #11
k&r... spanone Nov 2013 #12
The settlements are a bargaining chip 1000words Nov 2013 #13
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Nov 2013 #15
Admittedly, they sound like Hans Blix... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #16
I'll be impressed when not recognizing the legitimacy of settlements.......... Martin Eden Nov 2013 #17
Here's hoping that the Obama administration can actually impose some behavior changes n/t eridani Nov 2013 #19
Netanyahu halts plans to build 24,000 more settler homes Behind the Aegis Nov 2013 #21
A good start. Let's hope it holds n/t eridani Nov 2013 #22
About fugging time malaise Nov 2013 #23
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
1. Thank god we have PBO. GWB would have been asking them to let him drive the bulldozers.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:31 PM
Nov 2013

Armegeddon! It's on! Mission Accomplished!

Yes, Party, even if imperfect, matters.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. How would this disapproval be communicated? With words alone?
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013

Will the Israeli government pay a price for doing this?

The answer is likely to be no, I'm afraid. Still it's nice to see.

Bryant

Wolf Frankula

(3,598 posts)
14. We're Going to Send them a White Hot Protest Note
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 06:51 PM
Nov 2013

Accompanied by a billion in no strings attached aid.

Wolf

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. That is correct and they'll keep doing it
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 05:49 AM
Nov 2013

This will just bore more hate between the two groups and lead to more killings.

Israel has pretty much told the Palestinians to go screw themselves.

The result is pretty much a foregone conclusion. Anger is going to build, people will be killed, and then all the borders will be closed again . Repeat, rinse, spit.

Sad...very sad.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
5. I guess we all knew Bibi would F**k things up as soon as he was elected.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:41 PM
Nov 2013

Since he's such a war monger...I'm surprised it took this long. He and George think alike. Good thing Bibi wasn't in power when "W" was president. I can just imagine the horror!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. Now wait for the tanturm......
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:48 PM
Nov 2013

...the holding of breath. And the kicking and screaming. While all the other ''customers'' file by watching this spectacle in Aisle 3 - again - and they'll shake their heads in pity that the US has such a recalcitrant offspring that it'll do almost anything, or say anything to embarrass, humiliate and shock.

- The US just stands there looking helpless, all the while knowing that what this kid really needs is some discipline.......

K&R

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. Scuttling a nuke deal with Iran, trampling on the Palestinians.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:49 PM
Nov 2013

Israel's having a good week by their standards.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
10. Netanyahu's Response To Kerry's Rebuke
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:19 PM
Nov 2013

Let's see how long Netanyahu wants to play this game. His previous disrespect for President Obama has not gone unnoticed as evidenced by Kerry's sharp remarks the other day. And now Netanyahu responds in this provocative manner. He is obviously counting on Adleson's deep pockets to fund the PR battle in this country. But Adleson may not be so inclined right now given his current problems with the Justice Department and the foreign corruption probe underway. I expect this to be very testy right through the 2014 election. This impasse is nearly 50 years old and one wonders if Israel will ever wake up.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
18. It Appears I Was Wrong Regarding Netanyahu
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:08 AM
Nov 2013

Unless this is just something to give Netanyahu deniability it now appears that a far right partner of Netanyahu's coalition was responsible for leaking this plan.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/12/us-israel-palestinians-settlements-idUSBRE9AB17O20131112

dchill

(38,442 posts)
11. How can such belligerence benefit Israel?
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:26 PM
Nov 2013

How far will they be allowed to go before they lose "our" backing?

red dog 1

(27,771 posts)
15. K&R...Thanks for posting
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 07:20 PM
Nov 2013

Netanyahu is a thug..
He doesn't want peace
.He doesn't want a free Palestinian state, side by side with Israel.
He's proven this by allowing the new settlements in the West Bank, as well as in East Jerusalem.

And now he's appointed Avigdor Lieberman as Israel's new Foreign Minister.
Lieberman, a "hard-line nationalist," was just acquitted of corruption charges that have dogged him for more than a decade.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/12/world/middleeast/acquitted-israeli-politician-returns-to-foreign-ministers-job.html/

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
16. Admittedly, they sound like Hans Blix...
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 07:35 PM
Nov 2013

in Team America.

"We will become very angry. And we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are!"

But I honestly think they're just saying it to be dicks in negotiations. They don't honestly plan to build shit.

"Fine, we WON'T build 20,000 homes on your land. But dammit, we won't give you Jerusalem!"

Ahh, compromise

Martin Eden

(12,845 posts)
17. I'll be impressed when not recognizing the legitimacy of settlements..........
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:56 PM
Nov 2013

............means no longer funding them with our tax dollars.

Until there is a legitimate threat to cut off aid to Israel, they will pay us occasional lip service and keep building settlements.

All the rest is just rhetoric.

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
21. Netanyahu halts plans to build 24,000 more settler homes
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 05:58 AM
Nov 2013

Source: Reuters

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered on Tuesday a reassessment of plans to build nearly 24,000 settler homes, saying he feared an international outcry that would divert attention from Israel's lobbying against a nuclear deal with Iran.

The right-wing Israeli leader announced the reversal in the face of stiff U.S. opposition to settlement expansion in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Palestinian anger that threatens three-month-old peace talks brokered by Washington.

Before news of Netanyahu's change of course, President Mahmoud Abbas ordered the Palestinian leadership to hold "an urgent emergency meeting in the coming hours, with all options on the table," the Palestinian Maan news agency reported.

Peace Now, which monitors settlement activity on occupied land Palestinians seek for a state, said the Housing Ministry had issued tenders late last month for drawing up construction plans, but that no building work was imminent.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/12/us-israel-palestinians-settlements-idUSBRE9AB17O20131112


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